[SOLVED] CPU upgrade?

[BrotherFlow]

I just replaced my GTX 970 with an RTX 2060. Right now my favorite game is Warzone but when in a match my CPU (i5 4670K, overclocked to 4.0) is at 100% usage the entire time and my GPU is around 1-2% usage even on highest settings, this game crashes ALOT for me now.

Games like overwatch and CSGO run with about 95% CPU usage for me and around 40% GPU usage, but dont crash.

Is my CPU bottlenecking me and should i upgrade? if so, whats a good CPU upgrade for my system?

Thanks.

 

[Boats556]

For CSGO that's normal if you have Vsync off or have no frame limiting going on it eats up resources to render the game at 200+ fps that can eat up your cpu usage.

I think the problem here is moreso with Warzone. It's been having alot of performance issues since launch. Have you had the issue just today or constantly? They just released a new patch today which probably broke something. I would make sure you have the latest graphics driver release from AMD (not through Windows) as a first step if you haven't already.
https://games-guides.com/modern-warfare-warzone-update-1-19-patch-notes-on-april-8th/

Someone will probably tell you to completely overhaul your rig with a Ryzen build but I wouldn't say that's absolutely necessary here.

The only thing you would get from an upgrade that would fit in your current rig would net you Hyperthreading. And it would cost you about $120-$200 for said upgrade. A few years ago, I'd say no it isn't worth it since games wouldn't use the extra threads, but in 2020, yeah I'd say it's worth it versus spending $400+ on a CPU/Mobo/Ram combo.

A i7-4770K is about $120 secondhand and would fit in your system.
A i7-4790K is currently about $180-$200 secondhand. It would also fit in your system and would be the preferable upgrade if you could get a good deal on one, these are still extremely good processors for gaming with their 4ghz base speed and OC really well.

Both would give you 8 threads instead of 4 and games that make use of hyperthreading will gain quite a bit of performance increase....which is the majority of games being released recently.

 

[SamirD]

4790k can be had for under $150 if you look in the right places. 4470k I've seen once under $100.

 

[BrotherFlow]

For CSGO that's normal if you have Vsync off or have no frame limiting going on it eats up resources to render the game at 200+ fps that can eat up your cpu usage.

I think the problem here is moreso with Warzone. It's been having alot of performance issues since launch. Have you had the issue just today or constantly? They just released a new patch today which probably broke something. I would make sure you have the latest graphics driver release from AMD (not through Windows) as a first step if you haven't already.
https://games-guides.com/modern-warfare-warzone-update-1-19-patch-notes-on-april-8th/

Someone will probably tell you to completely overhaul your rig with a Ryzen build but I wouldn't say that's absolutely necessary here.

The only thing you would get from an upgrade that would fit in your current rig would net you Hyperthreading. And it would cost you about $120-$200 for said upgrade. A few years ago, I'd say no it isn't worth it since games wouldn't use the extra threads, but in 2020, yeah I'd say it's worth it versus spending $400+ on a CPU/Mobo/Ram combo.

A i7-4770K is about $120 secondhand and would fit in your system.
A i7-4790K is currently about $180-$200 secondhand. It would also fit in your system and would be the preferable upgrade if you could get a good deal on one, these are still extremely good processors for gaming with their 4ghz base speed and OC really well.

Both would give you 8 threads instead of 4 and games that make use of hyperthreading will gain quite a bit of performance increase....which is the majority of games being released recently.

It is something that started happening with Warzone a few days ago and has stayed consistent. Have not tried with this new update though. With my CPU at 100% in every game im playing, im leaning towards buying an I7-4770K. Do you know what the biggest difference between the 4770 and the 4770K is?

 

[BrotherFlow]

4790k can be had for under $150 if you look in the right places. 4470k I've seen once under $100.

I was looking at them Renewed/Used on Amazon. You know any better back alley places for them? lol

 

[SamirD]

I was looking at them Renewed/Used on Amazon. You know any better back alley places for them? lol

Amazon is what I consider the backalley--fakes and other shady galore. Reddit hardwareswap is where I've seen the best prices.

 

[Dan Dust]

Hi folks,

I found this thread as I have same CPU/GPU combo but something strange is happening for me, specifically in Call of Duty Modern Warfare - hoping I'm missing something simple but it also feels very odd. Seeking advice to try and make sense of it. My system details at bottom..

I installed CoD MW only a few weeks ago after upgrading my gpu to the RTX 2060 listed below. When I first used the game I had frame rate around 40 or so - not good - but strangely I found when I quit and reloaded the game I got a constant 80+ fps in-game (this is fine for me, I'm not a pro gamer and don't have loads of cash to upgrade my mobo/ram/cpu just to achieve better!). However, this 'fix' has since stopped working and I'm now left with it running around ~40 fps again.. Sadly when it was working I didn't look at GPU-Z or other system parameters in detail, as it was going ok!

I've fiddled extensively with the game settings, and my cpu is overclocked to 4.4 but here's the bizarre bit.. it seems to make HARDLY ANY DIFFERENCE to my frame rate (maybe changes by ~4-5 fps only) when I use either very lowest or very highest resolutions/textures/settings in the game. Literally if I set the game to the very lowest possible resolution and details it still gives me a frame rate of around 40, same as I get when I have all settings on their highest and running at my native resolution 2560 x 1600. At the highest settings my VRAM is almost maxed out (bar just below very top, past the 'max' line shown in CoD MW graphics menu). And when I adjust things lower that bar does go down. Custom frame rate limit is set to: gameplay 144, menu 60, out of focus 120, but setting to unlimited also has no effect). I've also tried the task manager increase priority thing, again no difference.

In-game GPU-Z shows my GPU load at ~70-75%, and CPU cores load is variable between 60-85% very occasionally up to 90-95% but not hitting 100%. GPU temp in game is around 65oC, CPU temp around 55-60 also (CPU is delidded and using Conductonaut and Kryonaut, recently refreshed with shiny new Fuma 2 cooler). My CPU overclock is 44, at 1.25V and seems to run stably at this (tested using prime95 etc.). Motherboard system temp is around 40oC, PCH around 48-50oC. This is all at today's room temp which is about 25oC. The Perfcap reason on GPU-Z shows 'VRel' permanently when in game (maybe this is my issue?). Game uses around 14GB of my system RAM.


Feels like the answer is staring me in the face but I just can't see it! Maybe the GPU-Z perfcap 'VRel' is telling me somthing? I'm not an expert in overclocking - just read some solid guidance for my particular CPU and with the delid + Fuma 2 I'm only ever seeing it get to ~60oC ish max at my 4.4 overclock.. But proper overclocking graphics or memory so far is a bit of a step in the dark - would need to do some more research. Other thought is maybe I've somehow damaged my CPU in the meantime? I did fiddle with my cpu overclock initially when the fps was low, but have since returned it to the stable 4.4 I had before. But I thought they have in-built protections which avoid damage, so would have needed to run over-temp for some time to cause problem? Apart from all that I'm not sure what a little more overclocking could really achieve - doesn't feel like my clock speeds are holding me back here.

If I knew for sure that I could fix the issue by upgrading to the best possible CPU for my mobo - an i7-4790K - then I'd go ahead, but since I've already seen my existing machine run the game at 80+ fps just fine I'm left wondering what else is going on and don't want to sink ~£130 unnecessarily! I read in a reply above maybe the extra cores & hyperthreading on i7 could help compared with i5, but given I've seen my machine already deliver 80+ fps a few time, I'm not certain enough yet to go ahead.

Please does anyone have any ideas?
If no-one knows then I may just end up getting the i7 anyway.. Maybe I did damage my i5 somehow, not sure how I'd know.

Thanks so much for any advice!
Dan.


Spec:

• Gigabyte Z87x-UD5H, running latest BIOS F9
• i5-4670K, overclocked to 4.4 GHz at 1.25V using BIOS
• Scythe Fuma 2 cpu cooler
• 32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz (not overclocked)
• EVGA RTX 2060 XC Ultra, 6GB DDR6 (mildly overclocked using Precision X1 - GPU clock is 1935 at 1.037V compared with default 1830)
• PSU Corsair RM750 (750W)
• SSD Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB
• HDD (that the game is on) Seagate 3TB Barracuda 64MB 7200RPM
• Dell U3014 monitor