Crazy Stupid Problem with Asus P5WD2 Premium and 805 D

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Hi all,

I have a problem that I can't figure out at all. I, much like many others, read the reviews and purchased a new computer based on the specs provided by Toms Hardware.

I went out and got the following:

ASUS P5WD2 Premium
Pentium D 805 (SL8ZH)
1 GIG of the OCZ PC2 6400 DDR2 Ram
ATI AIW X1900 256mb
SATA 250 Gig Hard Drive by Western Digital.

So I put it all together and fired it up - - - -and nothing. Board runs but nothing posts to screen. I went to my local computer store and worked with the guy there and we switched everything out and it all works fine. Processor works in other computer and a Pentium 4 SL7Z9 works just fine in my machine. So I know everything works independantly but when I put in the 805 - nothing. Well, we thought it was the bios so when I called ASUS they said to use the beta. That didn't work. Called Asus back and they told me I need the Rev B 805 D processor. Called Intel. That is the processor I have. Called ASUS. They said to use the latest stable release(0709 Bios.) That's what I put on.

So I take out the pentium 4 and put in the 805 D and still nothing. Computer runs and still nothing posts. I am unable to get into the BIOS, Cntrl-Alt-Del on my keyboard does not respond.

Does anyone have any ideas???
 
Hey - Thanks for your quick reply.

I am looking all over in the bios. I am using the 0709 revision but I can't seem to find the SPD settings anywhere.

Any thoughts?
 
what I am saying is that in my bios I can't even find a place to adjust teh SPD settings. I don't even see that listed.
 
I was also going to add that when I use the P4 processor and try to load windows I get the fatal blue screen. That has happened two times consecutively.

I don't know what is causing that but maybe it has something to do with what you are talking about with the memory.
 
Hi

I have the same motherboard, I've got bios revision 802 (beta) and works fine, I'm almost sure that the problem is on the ram..., remember that the P4 is FSB 800Mhz, and that the PD 805 is 533Mhz. Maybe the mobo has problem with your memory divider, I would recomend you to go back to your retail store were you purchased your mobo and try with a Kingston value ram and fire it up and try....!!! If it works then try to change your memory for a Corsair or a Kingston Hyper X.

I've got a PD 930 runing at 3.9Ghz witha pair of Kingston value ram 1GB 533Mhz.

So hope you resove your problem!

Cheers

Sam 😀
 
I still can't seem to find out where to enter those settings in my bios.

BTW - thanks to you both for all of your responses and great help.

The OCZ is supposed to be backwards compatible but I got such a great deal on ebay I couldn't afford not to buy so I can't take it back to any store nor do I have the packaging.

Furthermore, why wouldn't windows load up properly when using the P4 with the 800mhz FSB? Do you think my whole problem is the memory???

Here is the link where Tom's Hardware used the OCZ memory at 800mhz.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/10/dual_41_ghz_cores/page14.html

What now?
 
Maybe test the memory with a program like memtest86 (I think that is what it's called) w/ the P4, Maybe faulty memory is the reason for the BSOD when installing xp w/ the P4?

The other suggestions here are really good, I'm just saying this might* be a possible problem.
 
What kind of optical drive did you install,
and to what motherboard port is it connected?
Click to expand...

I have a cdr/dvdr by Samsung I beleive that is connected to IDE1

You shouldn't try to get past the "barebones"
test -- no peripherals -- until you have the
memory latency set correctly.
Click to expand...

I am not trying to get past the barebones. When using the P4 SL7Z9 the computer loads up fine but I get the BSOD when trying to install windows. When I replace that processor with the 805 I get nothing.

I think that you have given my great advice in terms of the memory but I still have to know

*****Where in the bios do I make the changes you suggest. I can't seem to find these settings anywhere. I have gone through everything line by line and still nothing for Serial Presence Detect*****

So, back up and get the CPU and RAM
working together, at least by booting
into the BIOS. Don't try to load Windows
until you are sure the CPU and RAM are
stable working togeher.
Click to expand...

I won't

Also - the asus website says that it has native DDR2 800 Support. Here's the specific link. http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=184&model=493&modelmenu=2

I will run the memtest tomorrow.
 
On this mobo you have to be awere that in order to boot from a cd to install win xp, your cd-dvd drive should be conected to the ide blue slot...!!! it's the only one that supports native PATA the red one's do not work for that purpouse....!!!


BIOS:
in the second tag there's a part that you can set the overclock of the cpu and memory, that part it's called "Jumper Free Configuration" You have to set it Manual, then do not change the FSB of the procesor, then in the same page you have the chance to set the speed of your RAM, and also in the same page you can set the timings of your memory, in order to do that you have to Disable the SPD and set it manually, once you set it manually there will be displayed the timings options....!

Hope that can help You...! 8)

Cheers

Sam
 
reading your post Jack, remind me that once i've had a similar proble with a malfunction keyboard, the keyboard was PS2, and i'd installed in an Intel 915 o 945 a cna't remeber now, I thought that the problem was the mobo or even the memory, then i had to return it to times and the same problem..., when I realized that the problem was the keyboard i was coursing like hell....!!! So many hours lost because a bad keyboard.... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

So maybe it's a little thing that is making your life like a living hell...!!!

Cheers

Sam 😛
 
I did move the CD cable to the blue IDE connector and now it doesn't error out when loading. I have also been successfully able to load windows using the Pentium 4 603 processor.

I adjusted the bios as recommended and overrided the DRAM settings and reduced the speed to 533 mhz and then loaded the 805. Still the same problem.

Later todayI am going to borrow another stick of ram that is slower than what I am currently using and see if that is the problem. I'll keep everyone posted and thanks for the help!
 
I know this may seem obvious, but I didn't see it mentioned and thought I'd ask. OCZ is notorious for requiring additional voltage to get their memory to run reliably. Are you still running the default vDIMM of 1.8? or have you upped it to the 2.1 generally recommended by OCZ for their DDR2 modules. I've seen a lot of problems that were solved by that little step.

Good luck,

-J
 
I built an 805 machine with OCZ memory on an Abit NI8 board. I couldn't get the board to POST with the PC6400 DDR2-800 in so used some Kingston DDR2-533 to get the board up and running at first.

I took the machine into the Bios (with the DDR533) where I set the advanced timings and the voltage change needed for the OCZ memory. Then I saved the Bios settings and turned off the machine before it rebooted. I then swapped in the OCZ memory and switched on and voila.... the machine is up and running at 3.6ghz with memory at 780Mhz (it didn't like 800 for some reason).

This is a rather messy solution which also means that every time you tweak the machine to the point that is won't POST you have to reset the bios and put back in the slower memory ( then reset timings ). But this did work in my case.

If the other help on this page doesn't solve things then you might want to try just getting a 256Mb stick of DDR533 for testing purposes. It's relatively cheap and can be really useful.
 
Well,

I have adjusted the latency settings to 5-5-5-12 as listed on my stick of ram. I also changed the DRAM setting to 533 mhz and increased the voltage to 2.1V.

Still no luck.

Maybe that processor was never meant to work with me in my motherboard.

Furthermore, I just can't believe it is/should be this hard to get this to work. I have never had this type of problem before. My patience seems to be wearing thin :evil:
 
Well I have also had issues with using timings that are TOO slow. You should set the memory at something like 780Mhz with the recommended voltage and timings. My OCZ memory works at 5-5-5-15-(20) there's an extra setting on my motherboard timings.

The amount of issues that one can experience while building your own machine is one of the reasons that the next PC I get will probably be an "off the shelf" model from a vendor like Dell. Sad... but true. :roll:
 
Actually I understand a lot of what you say there too. The company I work for resells white box PC to business customers, and although we only sold a handful of 3.4 / 3.6Ghz Intel machines we did have trouble with a couple of them overheating. They ended up coming back to the office where we put new thermal grease on the CPU's and then reseated the heatsinks. We've even had CPU coolers which have been warped in such a way they do not make enough contact with the CPU. It's very frustrating.

On a personal note I think it's hard to justify building a fancy new machine unless you are going to be a slave to your PC. Personally I love my newest build but it's hard to believe you can find bargain systems available from Dell starting at $399 (including a monitor).

"Dimension 5150 P4 524 3.06Ghz 512MB/80GB, DVD, 19in LCD $399, free shipping. Tax is charged" (techbargains.com Nov 9th)

Something like this with the addition of a decent graphics card will play most games as medium settings. And that takes away the headache of a home build. Add a three year onsite warranty and that relieves some of the worry of the machine failing too. And of course there's the option of paying more for a better spec machine if you choose.

Like I said my next build might not be a build after all !
 
I had problems with the OCZ memory and ended up buying 2 x 512 MB of Crucial Ballastic part number BL2KIT6464AA1005.000 and I have the entire system running very stable at 4014 MHZ on water cooling for the CPU and aircooling (Zalman VF900-Cu) on the graphics card. I also had to purchase a more capable power supply because it would not run with the one I had for the upgrade. I installed an OCZ GameXStream 700 watt unit.

I also have had to spend some extra time figuring it our, but don't give up.

Pentium 805D
Crucial Ballistic 2-512MB 240-PIN UNBUFF DIMM 64Mx64
Danger Den TDX cooling block
OCZ GameXStream Power Supply
ASUS P5WD2-E Motherboard
XFX 7600GT GPU
Seagate Barracuda SATA 250GB Hard drive

Good Luck!
 
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