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CRT monitors are big and boxy. LCDs are thin. both monitors measure size diagonally. also in both cases, the higher the contrast ratio will give you a better picture. CRTs can display lots of resolutions, while LCDs are known for displaying one resolution clearer than the rest it supports (known as it's "natural resolution"). LCDs are more expensive, but are said to last longer.
you mentioned something about "average CRT specs", please try being more specific.
hope this helps.
you mentioned something about "average CRT specs", please try being more specific.
hope this helps.
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SUP, LCD's have response times, contrast ratios, vewing angles, dot-pitches, etc. when i check out CRTs they dont have all those specs that LCDs have. i've heard that CRTs have thebest pictures but i haven't seen any specs to back them up like LCD's do. i know CRTs have them, i just cant find them, thats where i need help. i would like those specs so i can compair them to some LCD's i have in mind.
Thanks l8er
Thanks l8er
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A CRT doesn't have some of those properties simply because of the way each technology works. Just a heads up that you shouldn't try to find back-to-back comparisons for every aspect of the monitor.
As far as my knowledge goes, which I admit isn't much in terms of monitors, CRT's have response times in micro-seconds, while most LCD's are measured in milli-seconds. CRT's take the prize in that regard in almost any comparison.
As far as my knowledge goes, which I admit isn't much in terms of monitors, CRT's have response times in micro-seconds, while most LCD's are measured in milli-seconds. CRT's take the prize in that regard in almost any comparison.
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If I were you I would go with an LCD and forget the CRT. there are some nice crt monitors still but the selection is not that big. Google (CRT monitor) and you should be able to find some differnet info on crt monitors available.
If you purchase an LCD get at least a 19 inch. That will support a resolution of 1280x1024 which is nice. Also I would get it at your local store like bestbuy staples comusa etc. Get one on sale that is a good name brand look up some reviews and find a nice one.
The advantage of getting one at the department store is that you can have them open the box and try the thing out before you buy it so you can make sure you are getting one that does not have any dead pixels. I did this at staples and they were very happy to do it for me before I purchased it.
If you purchase an LCD get at least a 19 inch. That will support a resolution of 1280x1024 which is nice. Also I would get it at your local store like bestbuy staples comusa etc. Get one on sale that is a good name brand look up some reviews and find a nice one.
The advantage of getting one at the department store is that you can have them open the box and try the thing out before you buy it so you can make sure you are getting one that does not have any dead pixels. I did this at staples and they were very happy to do it for me before I purchased it.
If you decide on getting an LCD try to buy one with a Zero-dead pixel guarentee. It would really suck to buy one and get a nasty dead pixel in the middle like my friends' and not be able to return it.
LCDs are easier to fit on a cluttered dorm desk 😀
LCDs are easier to fit on a cluttered dorm desk 😀
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CRT is the way to go, they have the best picture, it doesn't have the specs as a lcd is because you can see it from any direction if they did have a viewing angle it would be 179.9 degrees
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Sup, thanks for the input; I've narrowed my search to an LG L204WT ( http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10075693&catid=22335&logon=&langid=EN&MSCSProfile=3C79F0C7EA3162B2F85612BBB7512FD2024BDFBFCDC398D1BA192183EA082F30001432727A7CF6F1FFABCBE00DB5AA203F898DC304AFE6EFF15234DA2CAF58D86409862828C0BC93B67AD4AF895C1F42ACDF7D9294638D0F8B7E175782510D49F64CA243CA732D9624E47EC19C99016DA0C9CDCCDF584BDDD90F426BB4AC36E5A5F61CFCDEE597E3492E7E273265460AD4F9ACDA7FC4F01B87FC4C2E8B08FE002179C2652BE413F80843A729C84C3982E3B7AA881388C0E993E0619A00A27C84603662E4E5758BDD)
i doubt i will notice the response time in gaming and the high contrast ratio will give me great pics, thanks again. l8er
i doubt i will notice the response time in gaming and the high contrast ratio will give me great pics, thanks again. l8er
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Not that I had a high quality crt before, but I really saw an improvement when I switched to lcd. No more flickering display and no more crowded workspace. With the crt it was also impossible to get the picture sharp all over. No matter what I did, the picture would always be out of focus somewere.
The only drawback I can see with the lcd is that I must have it at it's native resolution, or it will be slightly blurry. This is not so good, when my graphics card is getting old.
The only drawback I can see with the lcd is that I must have it at it's native resolution, or it will be slightly blurry. This is not so good, when my graphics card is getting old.
What do you have your refresh rate at? 60hz will definetly (to me) cause headaches.
Which is another reason I like LCD's better. A 60hz refresh rate on an LCD feels like 100hz+ CRT refresh rate. It has to do with how the image is actually produced. I don't know the specifics of it, I just trust my eyes and how they feel.
Which is another reason I like LCD's better. A 60hz refresh rate on an LCD feels like 100hz+ CRT refresh rate. It has to do with how the image is actually produced. I don't know the specifics of it, I just trust my eyes and how they feel.
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Hey, i was wondering if u guys had any input on the LCD i chose? its an LG L204WT, link ( http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS100756...amp;cat ). if u guys think its weak in any areas or if its a good LCD please input, i don't plan on upgrading my display anytime soon after my purchase. thanx
Note: I use the term LCD in a generic manner here to refer to all types of flat-screen displays, regardless of the specific type.
LCDs have the following advantages over CRTs:
1) they use a lot less power than a CRT.
2) a 17" LCD gives you 17" of actual display. A 17" CRT gives approximantely 15.6" of viewable disply. The discrepancy is due to the way CRTs are built and the fact that that the outer edges of a CRT distort so much that they are essentially unusable for viewing. A 17" LCD has the same viewable screen area as a 19" CRT monitor.
3) LCDs are much more compact than CRTs. The shallow front to back depth means much less space used on the desk. They are also much lighter than CRTs.
4)CRT is considered to be obsolete technology. It is getting difficult to find brand new CRT monitors. You may not have much of a choice here.
Main disadvantages of LCDs vs CRTs are:
1) All LCDs operate at a specific native resolution. Usually, this is a pretty high setting. 15" LCDs usually work at 1024 x 768, 17" & 19" usually run at 1280 x 1024 (or higher). This means that your text and icons and many other items are pretty small. This may not be an issue if you are young and have good vision, but if your eyesight is less than perfect, there will be a problem. If you are older (over 40) this will definitely be a concern. The weakness of LCDs is that if you don't run them at the native resolution, image quality deteriorates noticabley very fast. Text gets fuzzy when the font is large and illegible when small. All other screen elements also degrade. Sometimes, overall performance can also degrade. Note that on many LCDs, text in particular is rendered poorly even at the native resolution. This can lead to vision problems down the road. CRTs produce sharp and clear images regardless of which resolution they run at, with no loss of performance.
2) LCDs really don't like colour depth settings below 32-bit. This is not normally an issue, except for one significant segment of software. Specifically, kids software. It is amazing how much of the current product will not run in anything other than 256 colour mode. The reason is that most of the software for kids was originally produced to run under Windows 3.x. The manufacturers have repurposed the software to run under more current versions of Windows, but have not recoded the video portion of the application. This may not be a concern for you at this time, but it likely will be in the future. CRTs work just fine at all colour depths, including monochrome.
3) CRTs have refresh rates, LCDs have response times. These relate to how quickly the image on the screen is redrawn, and have an impact on image clarity and eyestrain. Until fairly recently, LCDs with response times of less than 10 milliseconds were not that common and quite expensive. This is an issue when moving images are displayed and when scrolling through text quickly. Moving images tend to be blurred, and have "tails". Scrolling text tends to be blurry, especially in File Manager, which slows down searches. Even the LCDs with response time below 10 ms don't perfrom as well as CRTs.
4) LCDs are limited in the legible viewing angle at which the contents of the display are clear. This why LCD specs include horizontal and vertical viewing angle - the numbers tell you at which point you can no longer see the image on the screen clearly. CRTs don't have this limitation.
5) LCDs do not work well under very bright lighting eg sunlight. See digital camers for simple example.
6) Lose a few cells and the entire screen needs to be replaced. The number of dead cells relative to the total number is surprisingly small.
For an interesting perspective, you may wish to compare the price difference between LCD Computer monitors and full-on televisions. Where I live Future Shop is charging $220 - $400 for 19" LCD monitors vs $600 for 19" LCD televisions. There's a very good reason that LCD TV's of the same size are significantly more expensive than computer LCD monitors. If you are a serious gamer, then getting an LCD monitor would be a very serious error. For most applications, LCD is perfectly fine, as long as you are aware of the issues and can live with the limitations of LCDs. Otherwise, get a good 19 or 21 inch CRT.
You should also search THG site - they have a number of descriptive articles and reviews that would help.
Hope this helps.
LCDs have the following advantages over CRTs:
1) they use a lot less power than a CRT.
2) a 17" LCD gives you 17" of actual display. A 17" CRT gives approximantely 15.6" of viewable disply. The discrepancy is due to the way CRTs are built and the fact that that the outer edges of a CRT distort so much that they are essentially unusable for viewing. A 17" LCD has the same viewable screen area as a 19" CRT monitor.
3) LCDs are much more compact than CRTs. The shallow front to back depth means much less space used on the desk. They are also much lighter than CRTs.
4)CRT is considered to be obsolete technology. It is getting difficult to find brand new CRT monitors. You may not have much of a choice here.
Main disadvantages of LCDs vs CRTs are:
1) All LCDs operate at a specific native resolution. Usually, this is a pretty high setting. 15" LCDs usually work at 1024 x 768, 17" & 19" usually run at 1280 x 1024 (or higher). This means that your text and icons and many other items are pretty small. This may not be an issue if you are young and have good vision, but if your eyesight is less than perfect, there will be a problem. If you are older (over 40) this will definitely be a concern. The weakness of LCDs is that if you don't run them at the native resolution, image quality deteriorates noticabley very fast. Text gets fuzzy when the font is large and illegible when small. All other screen elements also degrade. Sometimes, overall performance can also degrade. Note that on many LCDs, text in particular is rendered poorly even at the native resolution. This can lead to vision problems down the road. CRTs produce sharp and clear images regardless of which resolution they run at, with no loss of performance.
2) LCDs really don't like colour depth settings below 32-bit. This is not normally an issue, except for one significant segment of software. Specifically, kids software. It is amazing how much of the current product will not run in anything other than 256 colour mode. The reason is that most of the software for kids was originally produced to run under Windows 3.x. The manufacturers have repurposed the software to run under more current versions of Windows, but have not recoded the video portion of the application. This may not be a concern for you at this time, but it likely will be in the future. CRTs work just fine at all colour depths, including monochrome.
3) CRTs have refresh rates, LCDs have response times. These relate to how quickly the image on the screen is redrawn, and have an impact on image clarity and eyestrain. Until fairly recently, LCDs with response times of less than 10 milliseconds were not that common and quite expensive. This is an issue when moving images are displayed and when scrolling through text quickly. Moving images tend to be blurred, and have "tails". Scrolling text tends to be blurry, especially in File Manager, which slows down searches. Even the LCDs with response time below 10 ms don't perfrom as well as CRTs.
4) LCDs are limited in the legible viewing angle at which the contents of the display are clear. This why LCD specs include horizontal and vertical viewing angle - the numbers tell you at which point you can no longer see the image on the screen clearly. CRTs don't have this limitation.
5) LCDs do not work well under very bright lighting eg sunlight. See digital camers for simple example.
6) Lose a few cells and the entire screen needs to be replaced. The number of dead cells relative to the total number is surprisingly small.
For an interesting perspective, you may wish to compare the price difference between LCD Computer monitors and full-on televisions. Where I live Future Shop is charging $220 - $400 for 19" LCD monitors vs $600 for 19" LCD televisions. There's a very good reason that LCD TV's of the same size are significantly more expensive than computer LCD monitors. If you are a serious gamer, then getting an LCD monitor would be a very serious error. For most applications, LCD is perfectly fine, as long as you are aware of the issues and can live with the limitations of LCDs. Otherwise, get a good 19 or 21 inch CRT.
You should also search THG site - they have a number of descriptive articles and reviews that would help.
Hope this helps.
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I own both a Philips 107P+3 professional CRT monitor and a Viewsonic 702 LCD monitorThe CRT can do up to 1920x1440 @ 60Hz or 1152x864 @ 100Hz which is what i usually run it at. Its simply fantastic. On the other hand the LCD can do 1280x1024 native at 75Hz. I like both for different reasons.
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Hey, i was wondering if u guys had any input on the LCD i chose? its an LG L204WT, link ( http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS100756...amp;cat ). if u guys think its weak in any areas or if its a good LCD please input, i don't plan on upgrading my display anytime soon after my purchase. thanx
Don't get me wrong, I have an Princeton 1700 LCD. And i like the look & weight of it(plus it was new)but i think the CRT has a better pic.
As for the one you chose, looks good to me
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