Crysis 2, Killzone 3 Already hitting BitTorrent

[leper84]

For those complaining about the price of games.... consider a little cause and effect.

YOU steal games, and honest people like me have to subsidize your theft by paying higher than average prices for games. Which means I buy less games and the industry suffers.

If you would STOP STEALING GAMES publishers would not have to unnaturally raise the prices to compensate. To put it simply-

Your theft is what causes prices to raise.

 

[rantoc]

I will purchase the game once its available, pirating games only make the next one worse.

Alltho i don't want to contribute to the already insane salerys of some CEO's like Activisions Bobby K for instance who only cares about money and not the quality/customer satisfaction and that also hurts the game indistry!

Greed from two directions - Both the pirates who rather spend their money on their hardware than the software and the top execs who dont give a shit as long as it brings money. Shame that the average joe will also lose in the end when its no industry left but atleast so will the pirates with their insane riggs without any new software to run and the game execs without companies.

My 2 cents! Now bring me that game on ea downloads/steam already!

 

[Guest]

WTF?

Isn't there a way to possibly shutdown the torrent buisness,
Torrents weren't even meant to be for that reason, but most people think that a torrent is another word for illegal download.

 

[Guest]

a farewell to the pc gaming industry is starting, it was so sad great games such SSF4, heavy rain, etc (and the list will grow) wont come to pc most likely due to piracy, this is the "crysis" i see coming sadly.

 

[razzb3d]

The leaked beta is exceptional. GREAT GAME. I downloaded it 2 days ago and i'm looking forward to BUYING the game as soon as it's available to buy in my country.

As it is, the beta is a little buggy. You cannot save, and if you die, the game crashes. Also, the voices don't work properly and neither do the weapon sounds.

The game looks and WORKS GREAT on my system, I5 760 OC @ 3,33 / 4GB DDR3 @ 1666 / GTX 460 768MB, win7 x64 ~ 40 fps @ HARDCORE setting @ 1920x1080, over 60 fps @ ADVANCED setting.

It's a good buy, and worth waiting for the finished version.

 

[Guest]

Eeeeverybody thinks illegal game sharing is awfull and not nice. It so happends that i agree on some level. I never want to buy a game before i can see if it is worth it. And somehow i know before playing that any Blizzard game is worth playing.

Why is Blizzard able to make good games and other companies not so much ? You think Blizzard gets more money to invest because of less piracy against them ? The main reason I don't complain about Blizzard's prices and always buy their games is because they don't dissapoint.

Some of the best gameplays ever put in PC gaming came from Blizzard.

If the companies that develop games want more money they should produce better games, and people will buy them.

And guess what ? I downloaded Blizzard games from torrents as well. But that does not mean I will not buy them. Not my fault I wasn't included in SC2Beta .

The thing is the majority of game developers out there have no reason to actually bother making better games because they sell anyway. Some people pay no matter the quality, and THAT is what is hurting the gaming industry. Let the companies that don't make quality games die out.

And another thing . . . did anyone notice how nothing is new anymore ? Everybody copies from the others . . . no one wants to try anything new because there is no point.

I think i flamed enough 😀 Sorry if I annoyed anyone, and best wishes to all of you.

 

[Guest]

Cervat Yerli, what a joke. You didnt abandon the PC due to piracy, you abandoned the pc due to complexity. Your company designed a brilliant engine, and rather than try to pioneer the next one, you realized you could milk your current one for all it's worth on outdated console hardware by just creating a bunch of new static levels and calling it a sequel. The console kiddies will be impressed, and it costs near $0 in re-investment. Just rehash the same junk over and over again. Developing for next-gen pc technology is hard, I get it. But dont write off your losses due to piracy.

I pirated crysis and warhead, and I only played the first one for about 30 minutes before getting bored. Never even bothered to install warhead. The game sucked and was uninteresting. You lack the talent companies like Valve and Blizzard have when it comes to multiplayer, so you put all your time into single player. Yes making a good multiplayer game is the pinnacle of development. Some studios have it, others dont. Companies which put all their time into single player simply lack any focus or grasp on what makes a multiplayer game. Guess which 2 companies I always give me money to.

 

[eusebe]

So... cryteck is crying because of piracy on PC... and what about piracy on consoles???
Ok, it's easier to do so from a PC (and pirates usualy do so from a PC, even if it's for console games)... but come on...
I would say... make games 10€ less expensive, and I'm sure people will copy less.
On the other hand... it should be time that people buy games instead of copying them... this will boost the PC gaming industry

 

[twile]

We made you. We MADE you. From 2004 onwards we and we alone have made Crytek financially successful with its PC exclusives. Piracy be damned--it sucks, but it happens to everyone, and the fact that you're still around after all these years suggests that you still sold enough.

So you could make more money by selling to console gamers. So what? Extra money is nice, sure, but you clearly don't need it to make games of the caliber you were already producing.

On that note, Crysis and prior games by Crytek are exceptional only for technical reasons, pushing the limits of detail and realism in gaming. The thing that made your games impressive is the thing you're going to sacrifice if you go down the console route. Enjoying those sweet 512 MB of system/graphics memory? Or those < 250M transistor chips while midrange desktop GPUs from 2.5 years ago have 5-6 times? Enjoy entering the realm of completely mediocre games.

Maybe the reason your Crysis sales weren't where you were hoping is that your games were poorly optimized for the medium-and-lower settings most people had to run for the first few years, and other aspects of the game weren't widely acclaimed, resulting in lots of people who either didn't want to pay to play, or couldn't play at all.

Suck it up. Optimize your code better across the board. Make overall-better products. Ditch the console nonsense. Sure, you could make more by selling crappy games on consoles, but would you rather have a big team that makes mediocre products or a smaller team that makes things you're actually proud of?

Just something to think on.

 

[hallock]

the problem will companies like Crytek, Activision and so on is that they are greed. they watch the amount of downloads that happen online (piracy)an say to them self if all those ppl brought the game its more money in my pocket, and don't watch the "insignificant profits" that they make when the game is sold. they don't want to lose but how is it u r losing when millions of copy are sold too dam greed!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[brisingamen]

game makers are extremely intelligent programmers and great artists, they are horrible at understanding socioligy and marketing.

people pirate because of many cases of buyers remorse,

so many platforms to develop on wastes both money and time, that could otherwise be put into refinement and content creation lessening the chance of buyers remorse.

95% of people who feel they have recieved great value, pay up.

im a waitor, and when i go the extra mile to make sure peoples evenings are fun and relaxing; by being a tad chatty, perceptive, accurate with thier order, and when invited to slide a few jokes in, ive recieved huge tips.

my wage is aweful,

i essentially make a living off of things people do not have to pay for.
i earn more in tips than my wage, every month no matter the economys status.

i have regulars that will walk out of the restaurant if im not working that night.

when game makers realize this about thier product, and people they will stop wasting thier time with drm, and have more trust in themselves, that they are capable of doing such good work, that people must have thier service and product.

they will no longer worry about pirated software, and focus solely on making the greatest games, on the greatest gaming platform. the PC.

 

[mustbhacks]

Oh look, this thread again.

 

[sunflier]

Correct me if i'm wrong. In order to leak something you first must posses that somthing. Why don't they have better security in place to manage developers, testers, staff etc?! These things dont just get leaked themselves. Why dont they press criminal charges/lawsuits on those that violate company policy and NDA's??

Sure, P2P's don't help but neither do those who have direct company access to these games long before they are released!!!

 

[Reynod]

You all need to come down to News and Leisure and post some weird and crazy stuff to keep badge amused.

I can't do it all on my own.

Can I close this thread?

Please?

 

[Reynod]

I have just given myself a stern warning (via PM) for thread hyjacking, offtopic, and double posting.

Thank you for peripherally being involved in my vicarious conditioning exercise.

 

[razzb3d]

[citation][nom]lolcrytek[/nom]Cervat Yerli, what a joke. You didnt abandon the PC due to piracy, you abandoned the pc due to complexity. Your company designed a brilliant engine, and rather than try to pioneer the next one, you realized you could milk your current one for all it's worth on outdated console hardware by just creating a bunch of new static levels and calling it a sequel. The console kiddies will be impressed, and it costs near $0 in re-investment. Just rehash the same junk over and over again. Developing for next-gen pc technology is hard, I get it. But dont write off your losses due to piracy. I pirated crysis and warhead, and I only played the first one for about 30 minutes before getting bored. Never even bothered to install warhead. The game sucked and was uninteresting. You lack the talent companies like Valve and Blizzard have when it comes to multiplayer, so you put all your time into single player. Yes making a good multiplayer game is the pinnacle of development. Some studios have it, others dont. Companies which put all their time into single player simply lack any focus or grasp on what makes a multiplayer game. Guess which 2 companies I always give me money to.[/citation]

I don't care for multiplayer. Only sigleplayer interests me. I like a game with a good story and interesting gameplay.

 

[razzb3d]

oh and BRING BACK PC DEMOS!!!! Belive it or not, the reason most people pirate games is because they want to try it out first.

Bring back the pre-launch PC demos, and there will be less pirating.

 

[Guest]

It is a TRULY pithetic, lame excuse for huge development houses like EA and Crytek to whine about piracy on the PC platform being 'the' issue causing them to move away from developing games for the PC.

If (as in this case) something pre-release wound up out on a torrent site then guess what:

a) Some employee in your company MUST BE STEALING, being negligent by improperly disposing of, or intentionally leaking pre-release or other product versions. (Figure out YOUR INTERNAL ISSUE, this has nothing to do with platforms or the PC community!)

b) Your company PCs or network are being actively HACKED. You would assume they actually maintain a secure network and enviroment. (Once again, this is an internal management issue.)

So let's face up to the facts, and call this for what it really is, poor product management and access control, and actually begin to look for REAL answers.

 

[ben BOys]

yey the spongebob pirate!

 

[kelemvor4]

Never mind the fact that top end pc's built TODAY can still barely play crysis at a good framerate. Naah that couldn't have hurt crysis' sales figures at all, must be piracy...

I still regret buying crysis via preorder, it was a dog. I won't be making that mistake with crysis 2.

 

[alienzander76]

This is why I love Steam. It keeps the keys for my games, my saved games in the cloud and I can install them on multiple PCs but only play one at a time. It's the future and Crytek needs to get with the times. I personally won't be playing Crysis 2 as I think Crytek have turned into a bunch of whiney babies. I used to be a big fan, but lately they rubbed me the wrong way after disrespecting PC gamers.

 

[rhino13]

I'm shocked at how few theives are deffending themselves in the comments.
Most of what I'm hearing is I'm pirating it and buying it.
I guess that's the only justification that you need to pirate an unreleased title?

 

[55Range]

zzz. Finished exclusivity ? !

 

[Guest]

I hope that every moron who spent their young adulthood stealing everything through torrent sites grows up to work in a career where their hard work gets ripped off constantly. If you can't afford it then do without the way normal people do. Better yet, log off and go further your education or career so you don't have to work at Best Buy for a living.

Some of these games have development costs in the tens of millions, it's not as if like they're going to be priced at $10.

 

[seigejet]

When it arrives on Steam, it better not have additional DRM or I will NOT be purchasing a copy (nor acquiring it via any other means)