somebodyspecial
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1JOhT015ww&html5=1
WRONG...290/290x/780ti all OC'd to max out of the box. 780ti smacks all around in everything tested. You are also not realizing you can by an OC ACX card for $30 extra and get even more out of 780ti than in the linustechtips video linked. 8:35 in the vid for benchmarks. Whatever you do to the 290/290x regarding fans, I can do the same to a 780ti and vault past you again. If you want the fastest card on the block in a single gpu you buy 780ti period. We already know what hawaii can do with an fan mod as tomshardware already showed with the $75 mod. You're acting like modified 780ti's don't exist and a fan mod only exists for AMD. I'm confused by your statements.
AMD isn't doing anything except screwing up. It's up to OEM's to make better models, though AMD should have made a better day 1 debut in order to avoid messy reviews they got. That 1st impression won't go away as we saw with the last round. Mantle has nothing to do with their current issues which are a bad fan choice etc and probably terrible yields or you'd have OC models already out and wouldn't be out of stock already on cards nobody really wants - well maybe a few LTC buyers want them (not even sure of that, I don't think they're getting many that can do near 1ghz without serious cooling-hence the shortage), but everyone else is waiting on NON-REF models as you currently don't get what you paid for without ruining warranty.
If you currently own two 770's buying a 290/290x is kind of going backwards (or are you talking TWO?). I'd rather have a 780ti anyway (ACX model's are $30 more than regular and allow HUGE perf for just $30). But either way, I think replacing cards for the same perf (or worse in this case I'd guess) gains you a benefit ONLY in games that have an SLI problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FyndO0YBmc&html5=1&hd=1
You can see how far 770sli is out in front of Titan on most stuff and gauge your 290/290x idea or even 780ti, which from the Titan in the vid, looks like 780ti would come up short also in most stuff (these will all be so close I see no point - If I'm not gaining 30% or more why change? Is that change $20?...NOPE - $400/550 or $700 for basically no gain). This story won't be worth it until 20nm replacements for these models hit. At that point you'll get 30%+ for the same price and probably less noise, heat, & watts doing it. I'm guessing they'll be doubling the cores at 20nm and lower speeds a little doing it (saving for a refresh as usual) and we'll get about 30-50% maybe. I will be totally disappointed with less on a die shrink unless they drop watts/heat/noise a lot. I don't know why anyone would replace two (basically) 680's amped up with anything currently out. You gain nothing until 20nm unless you spend another $1000-$1400 or something for 290xCF/780ti sli. For the gain you get there even, that is a ridiculous price. I'd rather wait for 20nm which will gain you something for real.
What proof do you have ANY 290/290x will every beat a 780ti? We're talking OOBE. Currently I'd buy an EVGA 780ti ACX on 780ti side. I see nothing on AMD's side that can touch it so far and no indication they'll do much more than 1150mhz without serious watt/heat/noise going right back in.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/r9-290-accelero-xtreme-290,3671-4.html
Perf even after a $75 mod won't magically catch 780ti that can already OC out of the box with no fan mod. Sure 780ti is more expensive than 290/290x but you pay a premium for perf, heat, noise, watts all being better on NV (not to mention 3 AAA games and Gsync which will really help later as engines amp up graphics and really slow down high end at hi-res giving your card longer life). I don't see your points.
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