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Wasn't the election turn out and the response of the Iraqi people
inspiring... The terrorists were thwarted and their efforts were
minimal.... What a wondrous day for freedom... Great things are going
to happen to make a better world...

"By our efforts, we have lit a fire as well --
a fire in the minds of men. It warms those
who feel its power, it burns those who fight
its progress, and one day this untamed fire
of freedom will reach the darkest corners
of our world."

George Bush - Second inaugural speech
 
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well now that the voting is done lets bring home our men and women.

"Cannon Fodder" <gonfishn@airmail.net> wrote in message
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> Wasn't the election turn out and the response of the Iraqi people
> inspiring... The terrorists were thwarted and their efforts were
> minimal.... What a wondrous day for freedom... Great things are going
> to happen to make a better world...
>
> "By our efforts, we have lit a fire as well --
> a fire in the minds of men. It warms those
> who feel its power, it burns those who fight
> its progress, and one day this untamed fire
> of freedom will reach the darkest corners
> of our world."
>
> George Bush - Second inaugural speech
 
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Colin Wilson wrote:
> > well now that the voting is done lets bring home our men and women.
>
> And take all the oil interests and pre-arranged contractors jobs with

> them. Iraqi oil belongs to Iraq. Ditto Afghanistan.
>
> If the US were so concerned about terrorism, they should have started
in
> non-OIL RICH countries. The rest of the world wouldn`t have been so
> cynical then.

Of course anybody with half a clue knows that the American invasion of
Iraq has more to do with oil than any terrorism or nuclear threat.

America fights wars that serve its own secret agenda and it doesn't
matter how many untold thousands of innocent civilians are killed along
the way.
 
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"Cannon Fodder" <gonfishn@airmail.net> wrote in message
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> Wasn't the election turn out and the response of the Iraqi people
> inspiring... The terrorists were thwarted and their efforts were
> minimal.... What a wondrous day for freedom... Great things are going
> to happen to make a better world...

Yeah. Even though I'm not a fan of Bush and his administration, I do
apperciate the election turnout and what it means for the region.

*ponders why this is in a HL newsgroup*

I wouldn't be surprised if a voter makes his selection, casts his vote, then
notices the G-man staring at him from a distance then walking away,
briefcase in hand. The voter tries to catch up to him but he's nowhere to be
seen...
 
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 02:25:11 GMT, Cannon Fodder <gonfishn@airmail.net>
wrote:

>Wasn't the election turn out and the response of the Iraqi people
>inspiring... The terrorists were thwarted and their efforts were
>minimal.... What a wondrous day for freedom... Great things are going
>to happen to make a better world...
>
> "By our efforts, we have lit a fire as well --
> a fire in the minds of men. It warms those
> who feel its power, it burns those who fight
> its progress, and one day this untamed fire
> of freedom will reach the darkest corners
> of our world."
>
> George Bush - Second inaugural speech

You actually believe this.
 
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> well now that the voting is done lets bring home our men and women.

And take all the oil interests and pre-arranged contractors jobs with
them. Iraqi oil belongs to Iraq. Ditto Afghanistan.

If the US were so concerned about terrorism, they should have started in
non-OIL RICH countries. The rest of the world wouldn`t have been so
cynical then.

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Cannon Fodder wrote:
> Wasn't the election turn out and the response of the Iraqi people
> inspiring... The terrorists were thwarted and their efforts were
> minimal.... What a wondrous day for freedom... Great things are going
> to happen to make a better world...
>

Whatever the views of why we're there etc elsewhere in this thread it
was great to see the Iraqis determination to cast their first vote
despite the very real threat to their safety. Don't know what it's like
elsewhere but in the UK there is genreally a poor turnout to these kind
of things. We seem to have forgotten just how important democracy is.

--
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and
conscientious stupidity."

Martin Luther King, Jr.
 
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"BigJIm" <Jim10277@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> well now that the voting is done lets bring home our men and women.

Bring them home and the hell out of that anarchy-ridden rathole. Don't think
for one minute that peace will now settle. 36 killed on election day. Many
more to come.
 
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"Colin Wilson" <void@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> > well now that the voting is done lets bring home our men and women.
>
> And take all the oil interests and pre-arranged contractors jobs with
> them. Iraqi oil belongs to Iraq. Ditto Afghanistan.
>
> If the US were so concerned about terrorism, they should have started in
> non-OIL RICH countries. The rest of the world wouldn`t have been so
> cynical then.

Plenty of people would be cynical wherever the US chose to tackle terrorism.
Although the desire to capture the rest of the World's oil reserves was
obviously one of Bush's motives.
 
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"Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in message
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> Cannon Fodder wrote:
> > Wasn't the election turn out and the response of the Iraqi people
> > inspiring... The terrorists were thwarted and their efforts were
> > minimal.... What a wondrous day for freedom... Great things are going
> > to happen to make a better world...
> >
>
> Whatever the views of why we're there etc elsewhere in this thread it
> was great to see the Iraqis determination to cast their first vote
> despite the very real threat to their safety. Don't know what it's like
> elsewhere but in the UK there is genreally a poor turnout to these kind
> of things. We seem to have forgotten just how important democracy is.

No, people here no that by casting their one vote, there is no real benefit.

Many Iraqis would have been curious about voting, as it's something they've
never done before in their entire life. Now that they've experienced it, you
can expect them to get disillusioned by the experience over the next few
years and have an extremely poor turnout at the next (probably rigged)
election.
 
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Okilee Dokilee wrote:
> "Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in message
> news:1107168144.31295.0@nnrp-t71-02.news.clara.net...
>
>>Cannon Fodder wrote:
>>
>>>Wasn't the election turn out and the response of the Iraqi people
>>>inspiring... The terrorists were thwarted and their efforts were
>>>minimal.... What a wondrous day for freedom... Great things are going
>>>to happen to make a better world...
>>>
>>
>>Whatever the views of why we're there etc elsewhere in this thread it
>>was great to see the Iraqis determination to cast their first vote
>>despite the very real threat to their safety. Don't know what it's like
>>elsewhere but in the UK there is genreally a poor turnout to these kind
>>of things. We seem to have forgotten just how important democracy is.
>
>
> No, people here no that by casting their one vote, there is no real benefit.

That's a pretty dismal view of our system Derek. One vote alone is
useless agreed but collectively...?

>
> Many Iraqis would have been curious about voting, as it's something they've
> never done before in their entire life. Now that they've experienced it, you
> can expect them to get disillusioned by the experience over the next few
> years and have an extremely poor turnout at the next (probably rigged)
> election.
>

Their curiosity is stronger than the fear of being blown up and killed?
I disagree.

As for vote rigging the UN provided an commisioner who was the Chief
Electoral Officer sitting with an Iraqi Electoral Commission. As part
of the UN monitoring there were monitoring officials from US, British,
Canadian, German, Romainian, Indonesian, Mexican, Panamanian and
Albanian embassies. I feel they did everything they could to make it
fair.

--
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and
conscientious stupidity."

Martin Luther King, Jr.
 
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"Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in message
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> Okilee Dokilee wrote:
> > "Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in message
> > news:1107168144.31295.0@nnrp-t71-02.news.clara.net...
> >
> >>Cannon Fodder wrote:
> >>
> >>>Wasn't the election turn out and the response of the Iraqi people
> >>>inspiring... The terrorists were thwarted and their efforts were
> >>>minimal.... What a wondrous day for freedom... Great things are going
> >>>to happen to make a better world...
> >>>
> >>
> >>Whatever the views of why we're there etc elsewhere in this thread it
> >>was great to see the Iraqis determination to cast their first vote
> >>despite the very real threat to their safety. Don't know what it's like
> >>elsewhere but in the UK there is genreally a poor turnout to these kind
> >>of things. We seem to have forgotten just how important democracy is.
> >
> >
> > No, people here no that by casting their one vote, there is no real
benefit.
>
> That's a pretty dismal view of our system Derek. One vote alone is
> useless agreed but collectively...?
>
> >
> > Many Iraqis would have been curious about voting, as it's something
they've
> > never done before in their entire life. Now that they've experienced it,
you
> > can expect them to get disillusioned by the experience over the next few
> > years and have an extremely poor turnout at the next (probably rigged)
> > election.
> >
>
> Their curiosity is stronger than the fear of being blown up and killed?
> I disagree.
>
> As for vote rigging the UN provided an commisioner who was the Chief
> Electoral Officer sitting with an Iraqi Electoral Commission. As part
> of the UN monitoring there were monitoring officials from US, British,
> Canadian, German, Romainian, Indonesian, Mexican, Panamanian and
> Albanian embassies. I feel they did everything they could to make it
> fair.

Yes but the UN appointed staff aren't going to be there forever are they? Do
you think that a country like Iraq can ever be governed democratically and
without obvious corruption. Yes I can see the day - the same day I'll see a
pig fly by in the sky.
 
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BigJIm <Jim10277@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> well now that the voting is done lets bring home our men and women.

No. The Iraqi Army is not yet ready to stand on its own.
 
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Colin Wilson <void@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> If the US were so concerned about terrorism, they should have started in
> non-OIL RICH countries. The rest of the world wouldn`t have been so
> cynical then.

Yeah, right. Invade Sudan in response to the Afghan Taliban's actions so
snooty foreigners can't say "See?"

Pull your head out of your ass.
 
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<flightlessvacuum@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> Of course anybody with half a clue knows that the American invasion of
> Iraq has more to do with oil than any terrorism or nuclear threat.
>
> America fights wars that serve its own secret agenda and it doesn't
> matter how many untold thousands of innocent civilians are killed along
> the way.

Yeah.....it was those vast reserves in Panama, Grenada, Kosovo, Korea,
Vietnam, France (twice), Germany (twice), Algeria, Tunisia, Haiti,
Nicaragua, Cuba, and the Phillipines. Shitferbrains.
 
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Okilee Dokilee <derekathomson@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Plenty of people would be cynical wherever the US chose to tackle
terrorism.
> Although the desire to capture the rest of the World's oil reserves was
> obviously one of Bush's motives.

Which, of course, explains the concurrent invasions of Venezuela, Canada,
Mexico, and Liberia.

Oh, wait.....
 
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James H. Hood <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> typed as if devouring
a plate of spoo:
> Colin Wilson <void@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1c67faa9b531fdce98ae22@news.individual.net...
>
>> If the US were so concerned about terrorism, they should have
>> started in non-OIL RICH countries. The rest of the world wouldn`t
>> have been so cynical then.
>
> Yeah, right. Invade Sudan in response to the Afghan Taliban's
> actions so snooty foreigners can't say "See?"
>
> Pull your head out of your ass.

Well if the US government had taken heed of the warnings beforehand and not
allowed the WTC attacks to happen in the first place, then we wouldn't be
squabbling about this now. (We'd be squabbling about someothing else stupid
that our governments had lied to us about ;-) )

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EvilBill <quake2lives@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> James H. Hood <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> typed as if devouring
> a plate of spoo:
> > Colin Wilson <void@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1c67faa9b531fdce98ae22@news.individual.net...
> >
> >> If the US were so concerned about terrorism, they should have
> >> started in non-OIL RICH countries. The rest of the world wouldn`t
> >> have been so cynical then.
> >
> > Yeah, right. Invade Sudan in response to the Afghan Taliban's
> > actions so snooty foreigners can't say "See?"
> >
> > Pull your head out of your ass.
>
> Well if the US government had taken heed of the warnings beforehand and
not
> allowed the WTC attacks to happen in the first place

There are literally hundreds of warnings daily. Nothing distinguished
these.
 
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Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> typed as if devouring a plate of
spoo:
> Cannon Fodder wrote:
>> Wasn't the election turn out and the response of the Iraqi people
>> inspiring... The terrorists were thwarted and their efforts were
>> minimal.... What a wondrous day for freedom... Great things are going
>> to happen to make a better world...
>>
>
> Whatever the views of why we're there etc elsewhere in this thread it
> was great to see the Iraqis determination to cast their first vote
> despite the very real threat to their safety. Don't know what it's
> like elsewhere but in the UK there is genreally a poor turnout to
> these kind of things. We seem to have forgotten just how important
> democracy is.

Nah, we're just so jaded by having the bunch of bastards we vote in, turn
out just as bad as (or worse than) the bunch of bastards we just voted out.
😉

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EvilBill wrote:
> Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> typed as if devouring a plate of
> spoo:
>
>>Cannon Fodder wrote:
>>
>>>Wasn't the election turn out and the response of the Iraqi people
>>>inspiring... The terrorists were thwarted and their efforts were
>>>minimal.... What a wondrous day for freedom... Great things are going
>>>to happen to make a better world...
>>>
>>
>>Whatever the views of why we're there etc elsewhere in this thread it
>>was great to see the Iraqis determination to cast their first vote
>>despite the very real threat to their safety. Don't know what it's
>>like elsewhere but in the UK there is genreally a poor turnout to
>>these kind of things. We seem to have forgotten just how important
>>democracy is.
>
>
> Nah, we're just so jaded by having the bunch of bastards we vote in, turn
> out just as bad as (or worse than) the bunch of bastards we just voted out.
> 😉
>

....there is that 🙂


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GFree wrote:
> "Cannon Fodder" <gonfishn@airmail.net> wrote in message
> news:s95rv05lfp94ht869rn4uaol9pafjf5vi8@4ax.com...
>
>>Wasn't the election turn out and the response of the Iraqi people
>>inspiring... The terrorists were thwarted and their efforts were
>>minimal.... What a wondrous day for freedom... Great things are going
>>to happen to make a better world...
>
>
> Yeah. Even though I'm not a fan of Bush and his administration, I do
> apperciate the election turnout and what it means for the region.
>
> *ponders why this is in a HL newsgroup*
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if a voter makes his selection, casts his vote, then
> notices the G-man staring at him from a distance then walking away,
> briefcase in hand. The voter tries to catch up to him but he's nowhere to be
> seen...
>
>
Maybe the author thinks this is the Half-Brain NG.

Ron
 
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:17:34 -0600, "James H. Hood"
<jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote:

>
>EvilBill <quake2lives@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:367kdbF4u7k9iU1@individual.net...
>> James H. Hood <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> typed as if devouring
>> a plate of spoo:
>> > Colin Wilson <void@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> > news:MPG.1c67faa9b531fdce98ae22@news.individual.net...
>> >
>> >> If the US were so concerned about terrorism, they should have
>> >> started in non-OIL RICH countries. The rest of the world wouldn`t
>> >> have been so cynical then.
>> >
>> > Yeah, right. Invade Sudan in response to the Afghan Taliban's
>> > actions so snooty foreigners can't say "See?"
>> >
>> > Pull your head out of your ass.
>>
>> Well if the US government had taken heed of the warnings beforehand and
>not
>> allowed the WTC attacks to happen in the first place
>
>There are literally hundreds of warnings daily. Nothing distinguished
>these.
>
lol..i suppose bin laden(aka tim osman ) told norad to stand down,on a
walkie talkie from a cave in afgan.why are you defending these
people?bush etc,when they are clearly involved,.Maybe its time for you
to wake up to the fact that the height of corruption is at government
level in every country in the world.people in power are not nice
people,they are put there for a reason.tony blair here in the uk,might
as well be al capone,they are gangsters of the highest level,and if
you can not see that,then oswald did kill kennedy,and you can go back
to sleep and live in your dream world in complete ignorance till the
day you die..
 
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"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
news:41fed89f$0$38736$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net
> EvilBill <quake2lives@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:367kdbF4u7k9iU1@individual.net...
>> James H. Hood <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> typed as if
>> devouring a plate of spoo:
>>> Colin Wilson <void@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.1c67faa9b531fdce98ae22@news.individual.net...
>>>
>>>> If the US were so concerned about terrorism, they should have
>>>> started in non-OIL RICH countries. The rest of the world wouldn`t
>>>> have been so cynical then.
>>>
>>> Yeah, right. Invade Sudan in response to the Afghan Taliban's
>>> actions so snooty foreigners can't say "See?"
>>>
>>> Pull your head out of your ass.
>>
>> Well if the US government had taken heed of the warnings beforehand
>> and not allowed the WTC attacks to happen in the first place
>
> There are literally hundreds of warnings daily. Nothing distinguished
> these.

Except things like the messages spammed to a number of these newsgroups
starting two weeks before the attacks and ending the day of.
 
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desert <desert_awuk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:17:34 -0600, "James H. Hood"
> <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >EvilBill <quake2lives@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:367kdbF4u7k9iU1@individual.net...
> >> James H. Hood <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> typed as if devouring
> >> a plate of spoo:
> >> > Colin Wilson <void@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:MPG.1c67faa9b531fdce98ae22@news.individual.net...
> >> >
> >> >> If the US were so concerned about terrorism, they should have
> >> >> started in non-OIL RICH countries. The rest of the world wouldn`t
> >> >> have been so cynical then.
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, right. Invade Sudan in response to the Afghan Taliban's
> >> > actions so snooty foreigners can't say "See?"
> >> >
> >> > Pull your head out of your ass.
> >>
> >> Well if the US government had taken heed of the warnings beforehand and
> >not
> >> allowed the WTC attacks to happen in the first place
> >
> >There are literally hundreds of warnings daily. Nothing distinguished
> >these.
> >
> lol..i suppose bin laden(aka tim osman ) told norad to stand down,on a
> walkie talkie from a cave in afgan.

Alright, then.....why don't you tell us what distinguished these as a
credible, immediate threat as opposed to the hundreds of such items the
various intel agencies intercept daily?
 
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McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
> news:41fed89f$0$38736$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net
> > EvilBill <quake2lives@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:367kdbF4u7k9iU1@individual.net...
> >> James H. Hood <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> typed as if
> >> devouring a plate of spoo:
> >>> Colin Wilson <void@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:MPG.1c67faa9b531fdce98ae22@news.individual.net...
> >>>
> >>>> If the US were so concerned about terrorism, they should have
> >>>> started in non-OIL RICH countries. The rest of the world wouldn`t
> >>>> have been so cynical then.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, right. Invade Sudan in response to the Afghan Taliban's
> >>> actions so snooty foreigners can't say "See?"
> >>>
> >>> Pull your head out of your ass.
> >>
> >> Well if the US government had taken heed of the warnings beforehand
> >> and not allowed the WTC attacks to happen in the first place
> >
> > There are literally hundreds of warnings daily. Nothing distinguished
> > these.
>
> Except things like the messages spammed to a number of these newsgroups
> starting two weeks before the attacks and ending the day of.

The same pattern shown by many.....all you're giving us here is hindsight.
Try again.
 
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