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So? What's wrong with a fat tax? Why should fat people (the 95% of them who are fat because they eat too much, don't exercise or both as opposed to the 5ish% who can blame it on their genes) get to unload their astronomical healthcare costs unto the general population? You don't have to be born rich to eat healthy and exercise so there's no excuse.
 


A different metabolism? Yeah right, that's only a valid excuse for a tiny minority (who are not even disproportionally affected by a fat tax). Unless you can find an analogy that's more fitting than blue eyes and left handedness (since when do those raise medical costs) why bother strawmanning?
 
How about age?
Those with certasin hereditary tendencies?
Those with hereditary tendecies marrying others with the same or similar ones?
The feeble? The poor suffer from this tax, but its only small, theyre poor right?
And why should the government get a nickle of this money?
I say government should volunteer to oversee the new training program to help these people with a problem that may not be easily fixred, unless its just a penalty?
 


Getting old or having a hereditary defect are things that happen to you, no choice involved. Eating fatty food is a choice. Simple as that. The fat tax doesn't tax people for being fat, it taxes them for eating fatty food, so it doesn't tax people who get fat from a normal diet. It is both the simplest, most effective and most fair solution to the problem.

P.S. Denmark already has social programs to help people lead a healthy lifestyle.
 
What if the person has eating disorder or mental illness?
What if the person was feed those fatty food as a kid and so continue into adulthood with these bad eating habit?
What if a person had an accident which disable their movement but have not yet adjust to the lower food energy intake?

There are other factors which makes a person obese not by their choice and not due to genetics. The legislator have to be very careful in these grey area.
 
Headline should be "Danish politicians...". I'm from Denmark and find this tax to be no problem at all. The percent of overweight people in Denmark is less than 10, which is lower than most European countries, and this tax will surely help us maintain that number. We already pay 50% income tax and 25% tax on foreign products, so 5% is really nothing. On the other hand we get: free education, money from the government while studying, money when we are unemployied, free healthcare, free retirement homes, free housing if evicted etc. etc.
 


And that's why a fat tax (whose proceeds go to healthcare) is such a good idea (provided there is enough government oversight to force insurers to lower their premiums again accordingly, Denmark has a state run system so they don't have this problem, in the US the individual states might provide the oversight).
 


Again, it's not a tax on being fat, it's a tax on buying fatty food.
 
Some don't have a choice but to become obese. Their poor health will become a disability and disadvantage them. Is a government just going to ignore disadvantaged people?

I really don't see any western government will do something as extreme as to ignore the needs of real disadvantage citizen in order to avoid some abuse of the system.

You will probably say if the system isn't there then there is nothing to abuse. But just think of a time in the future you may become one of the unfortunate individual. Hopefully that will change your opinion.
 


read the links, they are taxing fattening foods not fat people. Way to misrepresent a topic! well done.
 


And again the tax is not fattening foods, not fat people, duh.
 
I think the concept of individual freedom and equality is beyond most people.

Any 'tweak' to the system by government interferes with liberty and equity.
 
Which fits within the topic, and is my point, tho some just dont get it.
I was asked for examples, I gave them, RTFM
Now, again, this is just another excuse to raise taxes
Some may wonder why countries are going broke
Some may wonder why taxes werent as high back in the day, while all along, people said, its no big deal, its easy to afford, meanwhile, were all in debt as countries.

If government first comes in with ways to not spend more, and even cuts, without any true changes, just clean up the waste, rid itself of unnecessary spending, then comes up short, all the while, rids the debts owed, then go for it
 


Denmark has staterun healthcare (the option of private healthcare exists but few people choose it because it's so damn expensive, just like in America) so taxes would have to be increased anyway to compensate for the rising healthcare costs stemming from obesity.

Hell, even in countries with 100% private healthcare people would feel it in their pockets if obesity became more widespread because insurance premiums would rise.
 
isnt this the same Gov't that allows 'Hash Bars' or Marijuana Cafes ? and has legalized prostitution ..I am curious how the potheads feel about the 'twinkie tax' ..it seems almost incongruent and disengenuous, ..you let people smoke pot and have sex with hookers , but then claim to be 'looking out for their health' ?? I am curious ..what is the tax rate on the Marijuana ? what is the tax rate on the prostitutes? and how are the 'health benefits' of those integrated (not sure how to word this) ..how are the costs of said smoking related issue or the transmission of STDs factored into the Gov't HealthCare ? it just seems illogical to me or counterproductive ..and what are the Stats on STD's and smoking realted issues in this country ? it just doesnt make sense to me to say that Fat Unhealthy people are costing more while not taxing say condoms for the 'sex obsessed' or Pot for those who cant quit an addiction ?
and just so we are clear ..the US already pretty much has Free Healthcare , go ot ANY Emergency room in the Nation , they are required by law to treat you, whether you have Insurance or not(hell whether your a taxpayer or not, whether your EVEN a legal citizen or not), if they refuse , they WILL get Sued in a heartbeat (with no limit on payouts; I think the Dutch and most Europeans nations have adopted Tort reform, as the Major Factor in cutting healthCare costs thus allowing them to attempt Universal Healthcare) this is not to mention the Countless amount of Volunteer Clinics where they give away $30,000 surgeries for FREE ..
as for Education , again Practically free in the US, ..Free up to high school, Billions in Grants and Scholarships for College, aside the from the fact that no one is stopping anyone from going to a library and reading a book..now that being said , we must also bear in mind that NOT everyone is cut out for College, NOT everyone has the Brains or the Willpower to goto or finish College, But due to discrimination Laws , no one can really be turned away for a chance at it.
 


Lol at you thinking making pot and prostitution illegal actually stops people from going after these things... One would think Americans learned some lessons from their prohibition era...

P.S. pot is illegal in Denmark. Prostitution is legal and is taxed just like any other work that generates income.
 


Doctors making more money, people leading less healthy lifestyles, having an aging population, insurance companies having much more power over doctors and patients than they used to, more advanced medical technology, defensive medicine, longer life expectancy, they all drive up costs and anyonw would be a fool to deny it. Some of these things we can't do anything about, let's try to do something about the remaining ones.
 
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