Question ddr4 confusion

[js0478759]

hi guys,

this is a rant and a question, two in one.

whats an alternative to samsung M471A1K43BB0, which is the ddr4 i have installed currently? apparently thats an old product that is virtually impossible to get in europe anymore. all i need is to find an extra 8gb+ stick to top up my ram. i dont care about speed (at all, afaiu even the slowest is plenty for me) or efficiency (not much anyways, the laptop spends most of the time on charger). i need something that is safe, will play well with the ram i already have and wont fry my laptop in the process.

this should be so easy. and yet its a <Mod Edit> disaster. why do they think consumers should be wasting hours of their lives researching all this crap on the internet for something that should be as simple as putting a new silicone case on your phone.

i thought usb3 and [micro]sd were <Mod Edit>. now i realize thats nothing compared to ddr4. i get the pin issue, that seems fairly straight forward. but the rest of it, geez.

i dont care about all this mhz vs mts vs mbps nonsense. i dont want to understand what different voltage does to any of that.

folks made fun of wifi going the 5, 6 route, but at least thats something a regular person can understand easily.

p.s. iiuc whats on the net, the number of modules and their respective sizes inexplicably affects compatibility, too. so i have 3 of the aforementioned modules occupying 3/4 of my expansion slots. ideally, id just stick another one in the free slot without changing anything else, but if thats impossible, please, state that as well.

 

[Corwin65]

I think it happens every November, I see brand new members (i've seen 2 today so far) that just remind me of trolls.

 

[js0478759]

yeesh
imagine buying a car from honda and going to the dealership with a flat, demanding tires be as easy as a phone case to change.
or a lawn mower to home depot, demanding the blade be as easy as changing a phone case.
or a laptop, demanding the RAM be as easy as-
well, you get the idea. In the future I would advise being more tolerant of people who are not trying to insult you, but help you.

i have a counter hypothetical i already brought up earlier. imagine buying a toaster to have it trigger a nuclear explosion because you put poptarts into it instead of the one specific brand and type of bread mfg recommended. this moral relativism is pointless.

i shall never be tolerant of people lecturing me on how i should give for profit corps a pass for wrong and/or [possibly] criminal behavior.

the only even remotely helpful suggestion in this thread was to bin all my current modules and buy new ones. i did appreciate getting it, however, it does not and will not seem right to me.

 

[thepersonwithaface45]

i have a counter hypothetical i already brought up earlier. imagine buying a toaster to have it trigger a nuclear explosion because you put poptarts into it instead of the one specific brand and type of bread mfg recommended. this moral relativism is pointless.

i shall never be tolerant of people lecturing me on how i should give for profit corps a pass for wrong and/or [possibly] criminal behavior.

the only even remotely helpful suggestion in this thread was to bin all my current modules and buy new ones. i did appreciate getting it, however, it does not and will not seem right to me.

I dunno if getting told to buy working parts and then going on a anti corporation tirade is the right response, followed by vehemently refusing to learn about the specifications of your own hardware "because it should just work".
This entitled consumerism response to a suggestion of buying replacement parts is just.. I don't know. Wild, to say the least.
Get a MAC if you want simplistic, consumer friendly product, no?

 

[Nemesia]

"the only even remotely helpful suggestion in this thread was to bin all my current modules and buy new ones. i did appreciate getting it, however, it does not and will not seem right to me"

The suggestion was made by one of the best user of this forum that has been doing this for years and helped thousands of peoples. When this person do a suggestion you should listen.

You agreeing with it doesn't change the validity of what he is saying.

Mixing RAM is not a good idea. Period.

 

[js0478759]

I dunno if getting told to buy working parts and then going on a anti corporation tirade is the right response, followed by vehemently refusing to learn about the specifications of your own hardware "because it should just work".
This entitled consumerism response to a suggestion of buying replacement parts is just.. I don't know. Wild, to say the least.
Get a MAC if you want simplistic, consumer friendly product, no?

yes, of course, it was wild and entitled for the ieee to come up with wifi 5/6 designations ensuring every consumer on the planet knows which gear is compatible with which parts. they absolutely shouldve gone the usb3 route and come up with monstrosities like USB 3.2 Gen 2x2. how are those pesky entitled consumers ever going to learn unnecessary bs like that if not by force...

 

[js0478759]

"the only even remotely helpful suggestion in this thread was to bin all my current modules and buy new ones. i did appreciate getting it, however, it does not and will not seem right to me"

The suggestion was made by one of the best user of this forum that has been doing this for years and helped thousands of peoples. When this person do a suggestion you should listen.

You agreeing with it doesn't change the validity of what he is saying.

Mixing RAM is not a good idea. Period.

which is an absolutely abominable state of affairs. also absolutely false in non consumer settings. period.

 

[Rogue Leader]

This thread is going nowhere, and more than enough CORRECT answers have been posted. OP if you don't want to listen we can't help you. Thread closed.