Kelledin
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If you'd been around hardforums long enough, you'd know SNDS is very real.
Until hardforums gets its search feature back up, here's <A HREF="http://www.ocforums.com/vb/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115166" target="_new">another bubble-burster</A> for you.
Get over it already. There's no shame in producing an electronic device that dies from overvolting--in fact, it's pretty much impossible not to. That's why no reasonable person ragged on Intel over SNDS.
<i><Lionel Hutz> I'll be defending...The SCO Group!!!??? Even if I lose, I'll be famous!</i><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by kelledin on 02/05/04 10:20 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
Until hardforums gets its search feature back up, here's <A HREF="http://www.ocforums.com/vb/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115166" target="_new">another bubble-burster</A> for you.
Get over it already. There's no shame in producing an electronic device that dies from overvolting--in fact, it's pretty much impossible not to. That's why no reasonable person ragged on Intel over SNDS.
<i><Lionel Hutz> I'll be defending...The SCO Group!!!??? Even if I lose, I'll be famous!</i><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by kelledin on 02/05/04 10:20 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
You just lost every half bit of credibility you might have had:
>PRanganathan stated "Only thing I killed was the CPU, no
>mods were done to it." to get RMA.
Here is ths real story, I quote:
= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by P4Man on 02/06/04 02:27 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
>PRanganathan stated "Only thing I killed was the CPU, no
>mods were done to it." to get RMA.
Here is ths real story, I quote:
Run along little troll
= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by P4Man on 02/06/04 02:27 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
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I think Kelledin's analysis of FUGGER's post is correct and judging from all responses, it succeeded in its purpose.
How can anyone take this seriously when it refers to the xtremesystems pages? It is not called xtreme for nothing.
The thing that got me wondering though is whether those peeps would be willing to fry 6 intelEE's in a row for $1100 a piece. I've seen some expensive hobbies around and indulged in one or two myself but this is really over the top. Thanks for the link though FUGGER because it is a fascinating read.
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How can anyone take this seriously when it refers to the xtremesystems pages? It is not called xtreme for nothing.
The thing that got me wondering though is whether those peeps would be willing to fry 6 intelEE's in a row for $1100 a piece. I've seen some expensive hobbies around and indulged in one or two myself but this is really over the top. Thanks for the link though FUGGER because it is a fascinating read.
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The Joy Of FUGGER. If it's not Fugger, it's his Lackey Kanivit.
Well it seems that the problem is due to Modding the Voltages on the Motherboards. It also seems to be related to the on board memory controller. Their maybe exceptions...
Being a new platform, new motherboards etc etc, this seems like a reasonably price to pay for overclockers.
The price you pay and all that.
Well it seems that the problem is due to Modding the Voltages on the Motherboards. It also seems to be related to the on board memory controller. Their maybe exceptions...
Being a new platform, new motherboards etc etc, this seems like a reasonably price to pay for overclockers.
The price you pay and all that.
Good news, gives me an excuse to buy even more A64's and FX chips. I don't mind burning up 2 cpu's and 3 videocards a day, just so people will respect me for my 3Dmark, (and if that doesnt work, I will just invent some scores), so who cares ?
And the price for all those cpu's and videocards may be insane for your penyybag, but others with a real budget can afford several of these highest performance processors per day. Can't afford to lose your one and only el cheapo P4 ? cry me a river, I don't care.
P4EE is now totally owned by the AFX and has no chance of beating it, ever. The EE is a dead horse,and I shot it. Can't afford the bullets ? Play a different game then.
I am severly limited in what my mind can perceive.
And the price for all those cpu's and videocards may be insane for your penyybag, but others with a real budget can afford several of these highest performance processors per day. Can't afford to lose your one and only el cheapo P4 ? cry me a river, I don't care.
P4EE is now totally owned by the AFX and has no chance of beating it, ever. The EE is a dead horse,and I shot it. Can't afford the bullets ? Play a different game then.
I am severly limited in what my mind can perceive.
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What were you expecting from fugger? Something intelligent perhaps?
The thread is not pointless however. It's very entertaining. The only thing missing is SOD going of on one of his, um whatever you call them.
<b>wooooow <font color=red> Killer Klowns </font color=red> ... from <font color=blue>outer space</font color=blue>... HOLY SH¡T!</b>
The thread is not pointless however. It's very entertaining. The only thing missing is SOD going of on one of his, um whatever you call them.
<b>wooooow <font color=red> Killer Klowns </font color=red> ... from <font color=blue>outer space</font color=blue>... HOLY SH¡T!</b>
Only if you are do very stupid things, and/or very extreme overclocks. no different than any other processor, and better get used to it. as process sizes shrink, overclocking, and especially overvolting gets more and more dangerous. No such thing as a free lunch, or a guaranteed and safe 20+% overclock
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= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =
Its been out for 8 months now, so its not a new platform. The problem was just brought to your attention.
reasonable price to pay 6x $750 + + + + + downtime....
Add up those chips, they are expensive for the FX variety. Yep, the price you pay. G1
<b>"You haven't proven anything that once 64-bit support comes out, it will perform even better." -EDEN</b>
reasonable price to pay 6x $750 + + + + + downtime....
Add up those chips, they are expensive for the FX variety. Yep, the price you pay. G1
<b>"You haven't proven anything that once 64-bit support comes out, it will perform even better." -EDEN</b>
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SO THERE, I OWN YOU!!!!!!!! IN THE FACE!!!!!!!!!
SO THERE, I OWN YOU!!!!!!!! IN THE FACE!!!!!!!!!
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funny how when presented with facts that blow your BS AMD bashing to [-peep-].... you dont respond to them
you will never be OPPAINTER or JCVIGGEN ... stop trying...they are respected....your not
you will never be OPPAINTER or JCVIGGEN ... stop trying...they are respected....your not
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I just want to ask for some advise because I've seen some of the accomplishments of some of the posters here with overclocking. I'm planning on building an a64 rig and I wanted to know what you're honest opinion on ram choice would be for mild overclocking using the via 800 chipset..is the pc4200 such as the el stuff from ocz worth the cost or should I just buy some decent 3500? thanks in advance
OCZ is great for high Mhz but you prob want fastest timings if you do not plan to overclock.
OCZ goes far on little voltage, something to consider.
<b>"You haven't proven anything that once 64-bit support comes out, it will perform even better." -EDEN</b>
OCZ goes far on little voltage, something to consider.
<b>"You haven't proven anything that once 64-bit support comes out, it will perform even better." -EDEN</b>
JC and Opp are my friends and team mates.
I am not bashing AMD, more like you guys bashing me. You might want to re-read this thread to see where it all went wrong.
You need to grow up, you make fanboys look bad.
<b>"You haven't proven anything that once 64-bit support comes out, it will perform even better." -EDEN</b>
I am not bashing AMD, more like you guys bashing me. You might want to re-read this thread to see where it all went wrong.
You need to grow up, you make fanboys look bad.
<b>"You haven't proven anything that once 64-bit support comes out, it will perform even better." -EDEN</b>
You tell them Fugger! We must keep the Intel faith!
These fools trying to argue against the facts. The facts are, AMDs just die. It doesn't matter that if you read the whole conversation on that link you find out this is not true. They just die, alright. Accept the facts and how we misrepresent them.
I'm getting really sick of all you AMD fanboys and your lies! Next thing you know, you'll all try to convince us that Protected Execution and the virtual elimination of debilitating buffer overflow exploits is important or something. It isn't. We don't need such protection, for we have Intel chips! And Intel chips are so cool, as to be desireable over less expensive and faster chips that offer us that protection. If we really needed such a high end feature, we'd just go Itanium anyways. Everyone knows how high end it is!
Besides, our Prescotts run really hot, so we know that they must be good, because heat requires power to create that heat, and since Prescott runs hotter than Opteron, you just know there is more power there.
Sweet man. I'm glad I didn't go AMD.
<i>Never attribute to insult what you can to sarcasm.</i>
These fools trying to argue against the facts. The facts are, AMDs just die. It doesn't matter that if you read the whole conversation on that link you find out this is not true. They just die, alright. Accept the facts and how we misrepresent them.
I'm getting really sick of all you AMD fanboys and your lies! Next thing you know, you'll all try to convince us that Protected Execution and the virtual elimination of debilitating buffer overflow exploits is important or something. It isn't. We don't need such protection, for we have Intel chips! And Intel chips are so cool, as to be desireable over less expensive and faster chips that offer us that protection. If we really needed such a high end feature, we'd just go Itanium anyways. Everyone knows how high end it is!
Besides, our Prescotts run really hot, so we know that they must be good, because heat requires power to create that heat, and since Prescott runs hotter than Opteron, you just know there is more power there.
Sweet man. I'm glad I didn't go AMD.
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