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I did not say that you did.

I said, "On that we agree. but I hope you don't equate the United State's
mission in Iraq to that of Russia's in Afghanistan."

Not quite the same as saying you did make that statement.

..

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
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>I never did state that I equated the US mission in Iraq with that of Russia
>in
> Afghanistan. I never did. I never will. I never made that sort of
> statement
> in this thread. I may be perceived as blue, but I am not stupid... Ben
> Myers
>
> On , "Irene" <girlsrule@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 00:46:47 MST
>>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 23:37:43 -0800
>>Xref: Hurricane-Charley alt.sys.pc-clone.dell:30519
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>><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>>news:422e67fd.2645485@nntp.charter.net...
>>And it applies well
>>> to the history of the Russian debacle in Afghanistan
>>
>>On that we agree. but I hope you don't equate the United State's mission
>>in
>>Iraq to that of Russia's in Afghanistan.
>>
>>Learning lessons from history, with regard to Iraq, more closely parallels
>>Germany's threat to Europe and Japans threat to Asia. I would think.
>>
>>
>>
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On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:41:36 -0800, Irene wrote:
>
> Afghanistan was not a major threat to it's neighbors or the rest of the
> world.

this is what I would expect to hear out of the uninformed - sure, the
Afghani people were not a threat, but the leaders of their country
allowing any terrorist group to setup operations made it a clear threat.

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speaking of uninformed, here's something informative...

This week the Senate is debating the judicial nomination of William Myers
III. He's a career cattle and mining industry lobbyist who is now up for a
lifetime appointment to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. He's just one of
Bush's 20 judicial nominees that Democrats rejected last term, (compared to
over 200 they approved). But Bush is still fighting hard to make sure every
single one gets confirmed.

These 20 judges were singled out because they consistently picked corporate
interests over basic rights, and want to roll back decades of progress on
anti-discrimination, women's rights, worker's rights, and the environment.
If we don't act now to support a real opposition, these corporate judges
will be given lifetime appointments to lock in Bush's ultra conservative
ideology for decades.

Plus, the Bush administration has threatened to use this fight to take away
the Senate Democrat's ability to resist any future judges, including Supreme
Court nominees.

MoveOn has started a petition calling on our Senators to stand firm against
Myers and all 20 of these rejected corporate nominees, and to fight any
manipulation of the rules to force them through.

Please join me in signing today:

http://www.moveonpac.org/judges/

Thanks!

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> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:41:36 -0800, Irene wrote:
>>
>> Afghanistan was not a major threat to it's neighbors or the rest of the
>> world.
>
> this is what I would expect to hear out of the uninformed - sure, the
> Afghani people were not a threat, but the leaders of their country
> allowing any terrorist group to setup operations made it a clear threat.
>
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As usual, you left out more than you provided.

Here is the mans resume':

http://www.usdoj.gov/olp/myersresume.htm


If that weren't enough, the fact that he is opposed by MoveOnPac, would be
cause enough for me to support him. >g<

MoveOnPac is one of the most leftist, most liberal organizations in the
country. They rival the ACLU and Amnesty International for taking some
really far left positions.

They should fit your political beliefs perfectly.







"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> speaking of uninformed, here's something informative...
>
> This week the Senate is debating the judicial nomination of William Myers
> III. He's a career cattle and mining industry lobbyist who is now up for a
> lifetime appointment to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. He's just one of
> Bush's 20 judicial nominees that Democrats rejected last term, (compared
> to over 200 they approved). But Bush is still fighting hard to make sure
> every single one gets confirmed.
>
> These 20 judges were singled out because they consistently picked
> corporate interests over basic rights, and want to roll back decades of
> progress on anti-discrimination, women's rights, worker's rights, and the
> environment. If we don't act now to support a real opposition, these
> corporate judges will be given lifetime appointments to lock in Bush's
> ultra conservative ideology for decades.
>
> Plus, the Bush administration has threatened to use this fight to take
> away the Senate Democrat's ability to resist any future judges, including
> Supreme Court nominees.
>
> MoveOn has started a petition calling on our Senators to stand firm
> against Myers and all 20 of these rejected corporate nominees, and to
> fight any manipulation of the rules to force them through.
>
> Please join me in signing today:
>
> http://www.moveonpac.org/judges/
>
> Thanks!
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news😛an.2005.03.09.23.24.41.361870@nowhere.lan...
>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:41:36 -0800, Irene wrote:
>>>
>>> Afghanistan was not a major threat to it's neighbors or the rest of the
>>> world.
>>
>> this is what I would expect to hear out of the uninformed - sure, the
>> Afghani people were not a threat, but the leaders of their country
>> allowing any terrorist group to setup operations made it a clear threat.
>>
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"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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...............He's a career cattle and mining industry lobbyist ........

You certainly have a strange idea of what a career is and isn't.
Maybe you should look up his back ground BEFORE you buy into MoveOnPac's
leftist baloney.
Again, try this:

http://www.usdoj.gov/olp/myersresume.htm



"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> speaking of uninformed, here's something informative...
>
> This week the Senate is debating the judicial nomination of William Myers
> III. He's a career cattle and mining industry lobbyist who is now up for a
> lifetime appointment to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. He's just one of
> Bush's 20 judicial nominees that Democrats rejected last term, (compared
> to over 200 they approved). But Bush is still fighting hard to make sure
> every single one gets confirmed.
>
> These 20 judges were singled out because they consistently picked
> corporate interests over basic rights, and want to roll back decades of
> progress on anti-discrimination, women's rights, worker's rights, and the
> environment. If we don't act now to support a real opposition, these
> corporate judges will be given lifetime appointments to lock in Bush's
> ultra conservative ideology for decades.
>
> Plus, the Bush administration has threatened to use this fight to take
> away the Senate Democrat's ability to resist any future judges, including
> Supreme Court nominees.
>
> MoveOn has started a petition calling on our Senators to stand firm
> against Myers and all 20 of these rejected corporate nominees, and to
> fight any manipulation of the rules to force them through.
>
> Please join me in signing today:
>
> http://www.moveonpac.org/judges/
>
> Thanks!
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news😛an.2005.03.09.23.24.41.361870@nowhere.lan...
>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:41:36 -0800, Irene wrote:
>>>
>>> Afghanistan was not a major threat to it's neighbors or the rest of the
>>> world.
>>
>> this is what I would expect to hear out of the uninformed - sure, the
>> Afghani people were not a threat, but the leaders of their country
>> allowing any terrorist group to setup operations made it a clear threat.
>>
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>>
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On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:49:08 -0800, Irene wrote:
>
> That does not make the country of Afghanistan a "major" threat, to it's
> neighbors or the rest of the world. A threat by the terrorists, yes. One
> cannot equate the threat posed by Germany or Japan at the beginning of WWII
> to Afghanistan. Nor can one equate the threat by Afghanistan to that of
> Iraq.

Sorry, but if a country provide save harbor for known terrorists in order
to keep their own people from being attacked, uses the drug money to fund
it's desires around the country/world, and is not seen as a threat to it's
neighbors, then I think you've been taking to many medications.

> But if you want to believe they were, then that is your right.
> I doubt that many well informed people would agree, however.

I have access to a lot of information that you don't see, and I can assure
you that Afghanistan was as much threat as Iraq and Syria and Iran and N.
Korea and China.

Any country that harbors, freely, terrorist does not help it's surrounding
neighbors.

The saying I like to tell my friends and kids and clients - "If you are
not part of the Solution, then you are part of the problem" holds true all
over the world.

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> Sorry, but if a country provide save harbor for known terrorists in order
> to keep their own people from being attacked

You didn't say anything about Saudi Arabia, Canada, Mexico, France, Italy,
Indonesia, Germany, The Philippines and even England, plus numerous others.

Please understand, I am not disagreeing with you. I just think you are far
to limited in the countries you choose to name.

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:49:08 -0800, Irene wrote:
>>
>> That does not make the country of Afghanistan a "major" threat, to it's
>> neighbors or the rest of the world. A threat by the terrorists, yes. One
>> cannot equate the threat posed by Germany or Japan at the beginning of
>> WWII
>> to Afghanistan. Nor can one equate the threat by Afghanistan to that of
>> Iraq.
>
> Sorry, but if a country provide save harbor for known terrorists in order
> to keep their own people from being attacked, uses the drug money to fund
> it's desires around the country/world, and is not seen as a threat to it's
> neighbors, then I think you've been taking to many medications.
>
>> But if you want to believe they were, then that is your right.
>> I doubt that many well informed people would agree, however.
>
> I have access to a lot of information that you don't see, and I can assure
> you that Afghanistan was as much threat as Iraq and Syria and Iran and N.
> Korea and China.
>
> Any country that harbors, freely, terrorist does not help it's surrounding
> neighbors.
>
> The saying I like to tell my friends and kids and clients - "If you are
> not part of the Solution, then you are part of the problem" holds true all
> over the world.
>
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You didn't answer my question about "perkacet"?

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:49:08 -0800, Irene wrote:
>>
>> That does not make the country of Afghanistan a "major" threat, to it's
>> neighbors or the rest of the world. A threat by the terrorists, yes. One
>> cannot equate the threat posed by Germany or Japan at the beginning of
>> WWII
>> to Afghanistan. Nor can one equate the threat by Afghanistan to that of
>> Iraq.
>
> Sorry, but if a country provide save harbor for known terrorists in order
> to keep their own people from being attacked, uses the drug money to fund
> it's desires around the country/world, and is not seen as a threat to it's
> neighbors, then I think you've been taking to many medications.
>
>> But if you want to believe they were, then that is your right.
>> I doubt that many well informed people would agree, however.
>
> I have access to a lot of information that you don't see, and I can assure
> you that Afghanistan was as much threat as Iraq and Syria and Iran and N.
> Korea and China.
>
> Any country that harbors, freely, terrorist does not help it's surrounding
> neighbors.
>
> The saying I like to tell my friends and kids and clients - "If you are
> not part of the Solution, then you are part of the problem" holds true all
> over the world.
>
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As I said, for the most part we agree.

I do question the idea that "that almost all terrorists are Muslims."
I guess it depends on ones definition of "almost all", so I'll leave it a
that.

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:13:10 -0800, Irene wrote:
>>
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news😛an.2005.03.09.23.56.21.627013@nowhere.lan...
>>
>>> Sorry, but if a country provide save harbor for known terrorists in
>>> order
>>> to keep their own people from being attacked
>>
>> You didn't say anything about Saudi Arabia, Canada, Mexico, France,
>> Italy,
>> Indonesia, Germany, The Philippines and even England, plus numerous
>> others.
>>
>> Please understand, I am not disagreeing with you. I just think you are
>> far
>> to limited in the countries you choose to name.
>
> I was trying to keep it simple. Taking the discussion into additional
> countries like those would have made it easier for the person to not
> understand my point.
>
> Here's something a friend of my has attached to his email sig, and it sort
> of explains it well enough for me:
>
> "It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is
> equally
> certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are
> Muslims."
> Abdel Rahman al-Rashed, general manager of the influential Al Arabiya
> television station, after the Beslan, Russia, attack.
>
>
>>
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news😛an.2005.03.09.23.56.21.627013@nowhere.lan...
>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:49:08 -0800, Irene wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That does not make the country of Afghanistan a "major" threat, to it's
>>>> neighbors or the rest of the world. A threat by the terrorists, yes.
>>>> One
>>>> cannot equate the threat posed by Germany or Japan at the beginning of
>>>> WWII
>>>> to Afghanistan. Nor can one equate the threat by Afghanistan to that of
>>>> Iraq.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but if a country provide save harbor for known terrorists in
>>> order
>>> to keep their own people from being attacked, uses the drug money to
>>> fund
>>> it's desires around the country/world, and is not seen as a threat to
>>> it's
>>> neighbors, then I think you've been taking to many medications.
>>>
>>>> But if you want to believe they were, then that is your right.
>>>> I doubt that many well informed people would agree, however.
>>>
>>> I have access to a lot of information that you don't see, and I can
>>> assure
>>> you that Afghanistan was as much threat as Iraq and Syria and Iran and
>>> N.
>>> Korea and China.
>>>
>>> Any country that harbors, freely, terrorist does not help it's
>>> surrounding
>>> neighbors.
>>>
>>> The saying I like to tell my friends and kids and clients - "If you are
>>> not part of the Solution, then you are part of the problem" holds true
>>> all
>>> over the world.
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>
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On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:13:10 -0800, Irene wrote:
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news😛an.2005.03.09.23.56.21.627013@nowhere.lan...
>
>> Sorry, but if a country provide save harbor for known terrorists in order
>> to keep their own people from being attacked
>
> You didn't say anything about Saudi Arabia, Canada, Mexico, France, Italy,
> Indonesia, Germany, The Philippines and even England, plus numerous others.
>
> Please understand, I am not disagreeing with you. I just think you are far
> to limited in the countries you choose to name.

I was trying to keep it simple. Taking the discussion into additional
countries like those would have made it easier for the person to not
understand my point.

Here's something a friend of my has attached to his email sig, and it sort
of explains it well enough for me:

"It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally
certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims."
Abdel Rahman al-Rashed, general manager of the influential Al Arabiya
television station, after the Beslan, Russia, attack.


>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news😛an.2005.03.09.23.56.21.627013@nowhere.lan...
>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:49:08 -0800, Irene wrote:
>>>
>>> That does not make the country of Afghanistan a "major" threat, to it's
>>> neighbors or the rest of the world. A threat by the terrorists, yes. One
>>> cannot equate the threat posed by Germany or Japan at the beginning of
>>> WWII
>>> to Afghanistan. Nor can one equate the threat by Afghanistan to that of
>>> Iraq.
>>
>> Sorry, but if a country provide save harbor for known terrorists in order
>> to keep their own people from being attacked, uses the drug money to fund
>> it's desires around the country/world, and is not seen as a threat to it's
>> neighbors, then I think you've been taking to many medications.
>>
>>> But if you want to believe they were, then that is your right.
>>> I doubt that many well informed people would agree, however.
>>
>> I have access to a lot of information that you don't see, and I can assure
>> you that Afghanistan was as much threat as Iraq and Syria and Iran and N.
>> Korea and China.
>>
>> Any country that harbors, freely, terrorist does not help it's surrounding
>> neighbors.
>>
>> The saying I like to tell my friends and kids and clients - "If you are
>> not part of the Solution, then you are part of the problem" holds true all
>> over the world.
>>
>> --
>> spam999free@rrohio.com
>> remove 999 in order to email me
>>


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On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:32:00 -0800, Irene wrote:
>
> As I said, for the most part we agree.
>
> I do question the idea that "that almost all terrorists are Muslims."
> I guess it depends on ones definition of "almost all", so I'll leave it a
> that.

The actual comment was made by a Abdel Rahman al-Rashed.

I have many friends that are foreign, meaning non-US, as we have
development teams outside the US, and I've never had a problem with any
peoples in the last 5 years.


> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news😛an.2005.03.10.00.24.16.588866@nowhere.lan...
>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:13:10 -0800, Irene wrote:
>>>
>>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> news😛an.2005.03.09.23.56.21.627013@nowhere.lan...
>>>
>>>> Sorry, but if a country provide save harbor for known terrorists in
>>>> order
>>>> to keep their own people from being attacked
>>>
>>> You didn't say anything about Saudi Arabia, Canada, Mexico, France,
>>> Italy,
>>> Indonesia, Germany, The Philippines and even England, plus numerous
>>> others.
>>>
>>> Please understand, I am not disagreeing with you. I just think you are
>>> far
>>> to limited in the countries you choose to name.
>>
>> I was trying to keep it simple. Taking the discussion into additional
>> countries like those would have made it easier for the person to not
>> understand my point.
>>
>> Here's something a friend of my has attached to his email sig, and it sort
>> of explains it well enough for me:
>>
>> "It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is
>> equally
>> certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are
>> Muslims."
>> Abdel Rahman al-Rashed, general manager of the influential Al Arabiya
>> television station, after the Beslan, Russia, attack.


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On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:38:30 -0800, Irene wrote:
>
> That is some potent stuff. Be careful.

The Doc from the ER said to take 1 or 2 every 4~6 hours, this is the first
time I've taken 2 and I have been keeping them at 8 hour intervals until
today (didn't do any and I'm paying for it) until I got home and only have
to operate this heavy computer

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Leythos:

If you get a chance, compare Mr. Meyers actual career to that which was
"described" by Christopher Muto as a "career cattle and mining industry
lobbyist" . Here is the URL:

http://www.usdoj.gov/olp/myersresume.htm


Also, I thought this might interest you, it was sent to me by a good friend.

>Ronnie Ism's


>Here's my strategy on the Cold War: We win, they lose."
>
>- Ronald Reagan
>
>
>"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the
>government and I'm here to help."
>
>- Ronald Reagan
>
>"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's
>just that they know so much that isn't so."
>
>- Ronald Reagan
>
>"Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too
>strong."
>
>- Ronald Reagan
>
>"I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandment's would have
>looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress."
>
>- Ronald Reagan
>
>"The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal government but
>doesn't have to take the civil service examination."
>
>- Ronald Reagan
>
>"Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one
>end and no sense of responsibility at the other."
>
>- Ronald Reagan
>
>"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a
>nation gone under."
>
>- Ronald Reagan
>
>"The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a
>government program."
>
>- Ronald Reagan
>
>"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession I have
>learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first."
>
>- Ronald Reagan
>
>"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short
>phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it
>stops moving, subsidize it."
>
>- Ronald Reagan
>
>"Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed there are many rewards,
>if you disgrace yourself you can always write a book."
>
>- Ronald Reagan
>
>"No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as
>the will and moral courage of free men and women.
>
>- Ronald Reagan
>
>



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> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:38:30 -0800, Irene wrote:
>>
>> That is some potent stuff. Be careful.
>
> The Doc from the ER said to take 1 or 2 every 4~6 hours, this is the first
> time I've taken 2 and I have been keeping them at 8 hour intervals until
> today (didn't do any and I'm paying for it) until I got home and only have
> to operate this heavy computer
>
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insults from you are compliments to me. thank you.

"Irene" <girlsrule@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:AOLXd.54336$s16.45588@trndny02...
>
> ..............He's a career cattle and mining industry lobbyist ........
>
> You certainly have a strange idea of what a career is and isn't.
> Maybe you should look up his back ground BEFORE you buy into MoveOnPac's
> leftist baloney.
> Again, try this:
>
> http://www.usdoj.gov/olp/myersresume.htm
>
>
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:AOLXd.54336$s16.45588@trndny02...
>> speaking of uninformed, here's something informative...
>>
>> This week the Senate is debating the judicial nomination of William Myers
>> III. He's a career cattle and mining industry lobbyist who is now up for
>> a lifetime appointment to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. He's just one
>> of Bush's 20 judicial nominees that Democrats rejected last term,
>> (compared to over 200 they approved). But Bush is still fighting hard to
>> make sure every single one gets confirmed.
>>
>> These 20 judges were singled out because they consistently picked
>> corporate interests over basic rights, and want to roll back decades of
>> progress on anti-discrimination, women's rights, worker's rights, and the
>> environment. If we don't act now to support a real opposition, these
>> corporate judges will be given lifetime appointments to lock in Bush's
>> ultra conservative ideology for decades.
>>
>> Plus, the Bush administration has threatened to use this fight to take
>> away the Senate Democrat's ability to resist any future judges, including
>> Supreme Court nominees.
>>
>> MoveOn has started a petition calling on our Senators to stand firm
>> against Myers and all 20 of these rejected corporate nominees, and to
>> fight any manipulation of the rules to force them through.
>>
>> Please join me in signing today:
>>
>> http://www.moveonpac.org/judges/
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news😛an.2005.03.09.23.24.41.361870@nowhere.lan...
>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:41:36 -0800, Irene wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Afghanistan was not a major threat to it's neighbors or the rest of the
>>>> world.
>>>
>>> this is what I would expect to hear out of the uninformed - sure, the
>>> Afghani people were not a threat, but the leaders of their country
>>> allowing any terrorist group to setup operations made it a clear threat.
>>>
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No, I'll leave the insult to you.

I just asked you if you read his resume' and suggested that you do so, if
you haven't.
I guess you haven't.

"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:mKNXd.93935$g16.7397@trndny08...
> insults from you are compliments to me. thank you.
>
> "Irene" <girlsrule@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vDMXd.43268$he3.27692@fe06.lga...
>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:AOLXd.54336$s16.45588@trndny02...
>>
>> ..............He's a career cattle and mining industry lobbyist ........
>>
>> You certainly have a strange idea of what a career is and isn't.
>> Maybe you should look up his back ground BEFORE you buy into MoveOnPac's
>> leftist baloney.
>> Again, try this:
>>
>> http://www.usdoj.gov/olp/myersresume.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:AOLXd.54336$s16.45588@trndny02...
>>> speaking of uninformed, here's something informative...
>>>
>>> This week the Senate is debating the judicial nomination of William
>>> Myers III. He's a career cattle and mining industry lobbyist who is now
>>> up for a lifetime appointment to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. He's
>>> just one of Bush's 20 judicial nominees that Democrats rejected last
>>> term, (compared to over 200 they approved). But Bush is still fighting
>>> hard to make sure every single one gets confirmed.
>>>
>>> These 20 judges were singled out because they consistently picked
>>> corporate interests over basic rights, and want to roll back decades of
>>> progress on anti-discrimination, women's rights, worker's rights, and
>>> the environment. If we don't act now to support a real opposition, these
>>> corporate judges will be given lifetime appointments to lock in Bush's
>>> ultra conservative ideology for decades.
>>>
>>> Plus, the Bush administration has threatened to use this fight to take
>>> away the Senate Democrat's ability to resist any future judges,
>>> including Supreme Court nominees.
>>>
>>> MoveOn has started a petition calling on our Senators to stand firm
>>> against Myers and all 20 of these rejected corporate nominees, and to
>>> fight any manipulation of the rules to force them through.
>>>
>>> Please join me in signing today:
>>>
>>> http://www.moveonpac.org/judges/
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> news😛an.2005.03.09.23.24.41.361870@nowhere.lan...
>>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:41:36 -0800, Irene wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Afghanistan was not a major threat to it's neighbors or the rest of
>>>>> the
>>>>> world.
>>>>
>>>> this is what I would expect to hear out of the uninformed - sure, the
>>>> Afghani people were not a threat, but the leaders of their country
>>>> allowing any terrorist group to setup operations made it a clear
>>>> threat.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> remove 999 in order to email me
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 01:51:14 +0000, Christopher Muto wrote:
>
> insults from you are compliments to me. thank you.

She didn't insult you, she asked if you had read it? I suspect that you
didn't really understand it if you read it.

>
> "Irene" <girlsrule@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vDMXd.43268$he3.27692@fe06.lga...
>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:AOLXd.54336$s16.45588@trndny02...
>>
>> ..............He's a career cattle and mining industry lobbyist ........
>>
>> You certainly have a strange idea of what a career is and isn't.
>> Maybe you should look up his back ground BEFORE you buy into MoveOnPac's
>> leftist baloney.
>> Again, try this:
>>
>> http://www.usdoj.gov/olp/myersresume.htm
>>
>>
>>

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http://www.independentjudiciary.com/resources/docs/myers1pg.pdf

"Irene" <girlsrule@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:C%MXd.43329$Kc3.39587@fe06.lga...
> Leythos:
>
> If you get a chance, compare Mr. Meyers actual career to that which was
> "described" by Christopher Muto as a "career cattle and mining industry
> lobbyist" . Here is the URL:
>
> http://www.usdoj.gov/olp/myersresume.htm
>
>
> Also, I thought this might interest you, it was sent to me by a good
> friend.
>
>>Ronnie Ism's
>
>
>>Here's my strategy on the Cold War: We win, they lose."
>>
>>- Ronald Reagan
>>
>>
>>"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the
>>government and I'm here to help."
>>
>>- Ronald Reagan
>>
>>"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's
>>just that they know so much that isn't so."
>>
>>- Ronald Reagan
>>
>>"Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too
>>strong."
>>
>>- Ronald Reagan
>>
>>"I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandment's would have
>>looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress."
>>
>>- Ronald Reagan
>>
>>"The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal government but
>>doesn't have to take the civil service examination."
>>
>>- Ronald Reagan
>>
>>"Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one
>>end and no sense of responsibility at the other."
>>
>>- Ronald Reagan
>>
>>"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a
>>nation gone under."
>>
>>- Ronald Reagan
>>
>>"The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a
>>government program."
>>
>>- Ronald Reagan
>>
>>"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession I have
>>learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first."
>>
>>- Ronald Reagan
>>
>>"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short
>>phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it
>>stops moving, subsidize it."
>>
>>- Ronald Reagan
>>
>>"Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed there are many rewards,
>>if you disgrace yourself you can always write a book."
>>
>>- Ronald Reagan
>>
>>"No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable
>>as
>>the will and moral courage of free men and women.
>>
>>- Ronald Reagan
>>
>>
>
>
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news😛an.2005.03.10.00.40.42.62593@nowhere.lan...
>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:38:30 -0800, Irene wrote:
>>>
>>> That is some potent stuff. Be careful.
>>
>> The Doc from the ER said to take 1 or 2 every 4~6 hours, this is the
>> first
>> time I've taken 2 and I have been keeping them at 8 hour intervals until
>> today (didn't do any and I'm paying for it) until I got home and only
>> have
>> to operate this heavy computer
>>
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>>
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Heavens to Betsy! You afraid he won't be like the liberal judges that
replaced the bars on the door with a revolving door?!

And as for "manipulation of the rules", judicial appointments are SUPPOSED
to consist of a majority vote and not a 60% vote to approve. But of course
that isn't a "manipulation" in your mind because it suits your purpose.

And speaking of cattle, have fun signing up with the rest of the cows. The
world is more more conservative and your herd just can't deal with it.
Maybe it's time you changed your feed... Mooooooooo

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/11/easonjordan.cnn/
"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:AOLXd.54336$s16.45588@trndny02...
> speaking of uninformed, here's something informative...
>
> This week the Senate is debating the judicial nomination of William Myers
> III. He's a career cattle and mining industry lobbyist who is now up for a
> lifetime appointment to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. He's just one of
> Bush's 20 judicial nominees that Democrats rejected last term, (compared
to
> over 200 they approved). But Bush is still fighting hard to make sure
every
> single one gets confirmed.
>
> These 20 judges were singled out because they consistently picked
corporate
> interests over basic rights, and want to roll back decades of progress on
> anti-discrimination, women's rights, worker's rights, and the environment.
> If we don't act now to support a real opposition, these corporate judges
> will be given lifetime appointments to lock in Bush's ultra conservative
> ideology for decades.
>
> Plus, the Bush administration has threatened to use this fight to take
away
> the Senate Democrat's ability to resist any future judges, including
Supreme
> Court nominees.
>
> MoveOn has started a petition calling on our Senators to stand firm
against
> Myers and all 20 of these rejected corporate nominees, and to fight any
> manipulation of the rules to force them through.
>
> Please join me in signing today:
>
> http://www.moveonpac.org/judges/
>
> Thanks!
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news😛an.2005.03.09.23.24.41.361870@nowhere.lan...
> > On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:41:36 -0800, Irene wrote:
> >>
> >> Afghanistan was not a major threat to it's neighbors or the rest of the
> >> world.
> >
> > this is what I would expect to hear out of the uninformed - sure, the
> > Afghani people were not a threat, but the leaders of their country
> > allowing any terrorist group to setup operations made it a clear threat.
> >
> > --
> > spam999free@rrohio.com
> > remove 999 in order to email me
> >
>
>

 

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Throwing facts at him Irene?! You saw what his news sources consist of. If
it doesn't come from a website funded by lefties and written by guys in
underwear, it can't be true.


"Irene" <girlsrule@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ChMXd.43262$2S2.21993@fe06.lga...
> As usual, you left out more than you provided.
>
> Here is the mans resume':
>
> http://www.usdoj.gov/olp/myersresume.htm
>
>
> If that weren't enough, the fact that he is opposed by MoveOnPac, would be
> cause enough for me to support him. >g<
>
> MoveOnPac is one of the most leftist, most liberal organizations in the
> country. They rival the ACLU and Amnesty International for taking some
> really far left positions.
>
> They should fit your political beliefs perfectly.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:AOLXd.54336$s16.45588@trndny02...
> > speaking of uninformed, here's something informative...
> >
> > This week the Senate is debating the judicial nomination of William
Myers
> > III. He's a career cattle and mining industry lobbyist who is now up for
a
> > lifetime appointment to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. He's just one
of
> > Bush's 20 judicial nominees that Democrats rejected last term, (compared
> > to over 200 they approved). But Bush is still fighting hard to make sure
> > every single one gets confirmed.
> >
> > These 20 judges were singled out because they consistently picked
> > corporate interests over basic rights, and want to roll back decades of
> > progress on anti-discrimination, women's rights, worker's rights, and
the
> > environment. If we don't act now to support a real opposition, these
> > corporate judges will be given lifetime appointments to lock in Bush's
> > ultra conservative ideology for decades.
> >
> > Plus, the Bush administration has threatened to use this fight to take
> > away the Senate Democrat's ability to resist any future judges,
including
> > Supreme Court nominees.
> >
> > MoveOn has started a petition calling on our Senators to stand firm
> > against Myers and all 20 of these rejected corporate nominees, and to
> > fight any manipulation of the rules to force them through.
> >
> > Please join me in signing today:
> >
> > http://www.moveonpac.org/judges/
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> > news😛an.2005.03.09.23.24.41.361870@nowhere.lan...
> >> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:41:36 -0800, Irene wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Afghanistan was not a major threat to it's neighbors or the rest of
the
> >>> world.
> >>
> >> this is what I would expect to hear out of the uninformed - sure, the
> >> Afghani people were not a threat, but the leaders of their country
> >> allowing any terrorist group to setup operations made it a clear
threat.
> >>
> >> --
> >> spam999free@rrohio.com
> >> remove 999 in order to email me
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 02:01:53 +0000, Christopher Muto wrote:
>
> you said "I told my kids the other day, all older teens, that if Bush called
> and wanted me to come back active I would do it in a heart-beat, but if
> Clinton or Kerry were to ask I would have said NO." perhaps it was just
> poor wording, but it sounds really peculiar to me... what is it that you are
> trying to teach your children with that sentiment?

I'm telling them that I believe in the man and his mission and that I
don't see him letting me down or giving control of my life to some flakey
UN group, and I don't see him selling me out for political gain like Kerry
and Clinton would.

I have no problem giving my life for my country and so that people like
you that don't have the courage to serve can feel safe in saying the
things that you do without being hunted down and shot in the dark by your
government, but, and this is a big but, I would not do it if my country
(President and his team) was going to sell me down the creek while I was
doing it. Bush has the support of the real military people, the ones that
know what it takes to keep this country strong and safe. Sure, there are
the cry-babies that joined the service with no intention of having to do
anything hard or dangerous, guess they were just just wanted to take
advantage of the service - and they will whine about it. If you talk to
any non-reserve unit (and many reserve units), they have to problem with
our mission and understand what you, and many like you, don't seem to
understand.

It's one thing to follow an honorable man with a mission that you believe
is just (Bush), it's another thing to foolishly throw your life away for
an unhonorable man and his political ambitions (Kerry/Clinton).

When was the last time you walked up to a service member and said 'Thanks
for all you've done to make my life better and safer'?

The other day, I was in Pizza Hut and there were three Army guys that were
eating the buffet, without saying a thing, as I was leaving before them, I
told the owner that I would pay for their meals - he looked at me funny,
but I think he understood. I didn't ask a thing of those service members,
didn't want them to know until after I left, and I hope they remember it
when they talk to their friends/brothers - to let them know that there are
people that support them here in the states.

If you don't think this is the right fight, then how do you explain all
the changes in foreign governments policies towards elections, oppressing
it's peoples, moving occupying forces out of others lands.... Bet you
won't give proper credit for that to the President.

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>G<

"betty bop" <bettybop@bopville.com> wrote in message
news:x9SXd.15801$Sm5.11789@fe07.lga...
> Throwing facts at him Irene?! You saw what his news sources consist of.
> If
> it doesn't come from a website funded by lefties and written by guys in
> underwear, it can't be true.
>
>
> "Irene" <girlsrule@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ChMXd.43262$2S2.21993@fe06.lga...
>> As usual, you left out more than you provided.
>>
>> Here is the mans resume':
>>
>> http://www.usdoj.gov/olp/myersresume.htm
>>
>>
>> If that weren't enough, the fact that he is opposed by MoveOnPac, would
>> be
>> cause enough for me to support him. >g<
>>
>> MoveOnPac is one of the most leftist, most liberal organizations in the
>> country. They rival the ACLU and Amnesty International for taking some
>> really far left positions.
>>
>> They should fit your political beliefs perfectly.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:AOLXd.54336$s16.45588@trndny02...
>> > speaking of uninformed, here's something informative...
>> >
>> > This week the Senate is debating the judicial nomination of William
> Myers
>> > III. He's a career cattle and mining industry lobbyist who is now up
>> > for
> a
>> > lifetime appointment to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. He's just one
> of
>> > Bush's 20 judicial nominees that Democrats rejected last term,
>> > (compared
>> > to over 200 they approved). But Bush is still fighting hard to make
>> > sure
>> > every single one gets confirmed.
>> >
>> > These 20 judges were singled out because they consistently picked
>> > corporate interests over basic rights, and want to roll back decades of
>> > progress on anti-discrimination, women's rights, worker's rights, and
> the
>> > environment. If we don't act now to support a real opposition, these
>> > corporate judges will be given lifetime appointments to lock in Bush's
>> > ultra conservative ideology for decades.
>> >
>> > Plus, the Bush administration has threatened to use this fight to take
>> > away the Senate Democrat's ability to resist any future judges,
> including
>> > Supreme Court nominees.
>> >
>> > MoveOn has started a petition calling on our Senators to stand firm
>> > against Myers and all 20 of these rejected corporate nominees, and to
>> > fight any manipulation of the rules to force them through.
>> >
>> > Please join me in signing today:
>> >
>> > http://www.moveonpac.org/judges/
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> > news😛an.2005.03.09.23.24.41.361870@nowhere.lan...
>> >> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:41:36 -0800, Irene wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Afghanistan was not a major threat to it's neighbors or the rest of
> the
>> >>> world.
>> >>
>> >> this is what I would expect to hear out of the uninformed - sure, the
>> >> Afghani people were not a threat, but the leaders of their country
>> >> allowing any terrorist group to setup operations made it a clear
> threat.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> spam999free@rrohio.com
>> >> remove 999 in order to email me
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 22:45:59 -0500, "Dogface" <DogFace@doghouse.com>
wrote:

>
>You mean the "Social Security Trust Fund"? You mean the 3.7 TRILLION
>dollars that the government has looted from the people and spent instead of
>wisely investing it for the benefit of those people? The "Trust Fund" is
>3.7 TRILLION dollars of government IOUs that will start coming due in 13-20
>years.

Hey, Dude, Treasury Bonds are the safest investment going. I do agree
that the trust funds should be invested for a higher return, though.
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That is precisely why the "free spending" Democrats(and a few Republicans)
are railing against the President's proposal. Any money that is invested in
"privatized" personal accounts will no longer be available to be spent on
their wasteful pet projects.
Wouldn't that be terrible. Those funds would be "locked up" and the
sorry, ----- politicians would be able to get at them.

"Paul Knudsen" <bigkahuna@jupada.com> wrote in message
news:66n131d8mik2p24prkf956f362ejn0jljg@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 22:45:59 -0500, "Dogface" <DogFace@doghouse.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>You mean the "Social Security Trust Fund"? You mean the 3.7 TRILLION
>>dollars that the government has looted from the people and spent instead
>>of
>>wisely investing it for the benefit of those people? The "Trust Fund" is
>>3.7 TRILLION dollars of government IOUs that will start coming due in
>>13-20
>>years.
>
> Hey, Dude, Treasury Bonds are the safest investment going. I do agree
> that the trust funds should be invested for a higher return, though.
> --
> Top 10 Conservative Idiots:
> http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/

 

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I got ahead of my self when I sent the other post.
It should have read:

Those funds would be "locked up" and the sorry, ----- politicians wouldn't
be able to get at them.


"Irene" <girlsrule@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> That is precisely why the "free spending" Democrats(and a few Republicans)
> are railing against the President's proposal. Any money that is invested
> in "privatized" personal accounts will no longer be available to be spent
> on their wasteful pet projects.
> Wouldn't that be terrible. Those funds would be "locked up" and the
> sorry, ----- politicians would be able to get at them.
>
> "Paul Knudsen" <bigkahuna@jupada.com> wrote in message
> news:66n131d8mik2p24prkf956f362ejn0jljg@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 22:45:59 -0500, "Dogface" <DogFace@doghouse.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>You mean the "Social Security Trust Fund"? You mean the 3.7 TRILLION
>>>dollars that the government has looted from the people and spent instead
>>>of
>>>wisely investing it for the benefit of those people? The "Trust Fund" is
>>>3.7 TRILLION dollars of government IOUs that will start coming due in
>>>13-20
>>>years.
>>
>> Hey, Dude, Treasury Bonds are the safest investment going. I do agree
>> that the trust funds should be invested for a higher return, though.
>> --
>> Top 10 Conservative Idiots:
>> http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/
>
>

 

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"Paul Knudsen" <bigkahuna@jupada.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 22:45:59 -0500, "Dogface" <DogFace@doghouse.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >You mean the "Social Security Trust Fund"? You mean the 3.7 TRILLION
> >dollars that the government has looted from the people and spent instead
of
> >wisely investing it for the benefit of those people? The "Trust Fund" is
> >3.7 TRILLION dollars of government IOUs that will start coming due in
13-20
> >years.
>
> Hey, Dude, Treasury Bonds are the safest investment going. I do agree
> that the trust funds should be invested for a higher return, though.

So let me get this straight. The government taxes me and my employer around
15% combined for what is purported to be my retirement safety net. They
then take that money and spend it. In it's place they leave IOUs for the
money and pay "interest" far below what the money could earn elsewhere. Now
where is that interest they are paying me coming from? You guessed it! MY
TAXES! So they are taking my money, spending it, then taxing me to pay
interest back to me! Then when the IOUs come due and they don't have enough
to pay them, they raise my taxes. Again, taking more of my money, to repay
money that I already paid in!

If anybody else ran this sort of shell game, the government would lock them
up. Companies with pension plans are regulated by ERISA laws that require
them to fund the pension funds. If the same regulations were applied to the
Social Security "Trust Fund", the jails would be full of politicians which
would probably be the only way of stopping them from stealing our money.

The Social Security system isn't a "Pay as You Go" system, it's a "Steal as
You Pay" system. And that by any measure is BROKEN.