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blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...
but the fact remains that bush is the first president to loose jobs since
hoover; despite your 'reality' and all the justification in the world.
"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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😛an.2005.03.16.15.13.07.312734@nowhere.lan...
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:28:18 +0000, Christopher Muto wrote:
>>
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news
😛an.2005.03.16.12.04.16.657537@nowhere.lan...
>>> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:24:13 -0500, Sparky Singer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:08:45 +0000, Christopher Muto wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>well those bush federal tax cuts only went to the very rich, and you
>>>>>>may
>>>>>>have noticed that since they went into effect that your local city,
>>>>>>state,
>>>>>>and property taxes have been increased to cover the lack of federal
>>>>>>funds at
>>>>>>the local level. another bush weapon of mass distraction! the irony
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>people that feel they were good for them as individuals and the
>>>>>>country.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Middle class workers and the non-working poor don't create jobs, when
>>>>> was
>>>>> the last time you saw a person on Welfare or a factory worker create 5
>>>>> new
>>>>> jobs in the community?
>>>>
>>>> In the Bush economy *no one* is creating jobs (GWB - first president
>>>> since H Hoover to have a net loss of jobs for an entire term), so much
>>>> for the stimulation from the tax cuts.
>>>
>>> Wrong, I started an IT company 2 years ago, and have been adding work
>>> since the second month. It's no easy finding people willing to work and
>>> that have a good technical background also.
>>>
>>> I've found that every one of our customers, across the USA, is also
>>> hiring
>>> on a regular basis - care to explain away reality?
>>>
>>
>> reality is a quality or state of being actual or true. your reality may
>> be
>> that there has been job creation among the people that you know, but the
>> national reality is that there has been a net loss of jobs during bushes
>> first term. this is an example of why you can not rely on local polling
>> and
>> a good lesson for a startup businessman like yourself to learn.
>
> Chris, the loss of jobs was started before Bush took office, at least in
> the IT community it was started during the Clinton regime. During the Bush
> years I've seen the normal order of business changes - meaning that due to
> the expanding of technology over the globe, making data/communications
> possible like have never before been possible, the outsourcing of many
> jobs, and the investments of the countries in data/call centers in order
> to take those jobs for low rates. It's a natural order and has nothing to
> do with Bush or really Clinton - the technology made it easier and very
> simple to change projects and call type jobs to countries where they rate
> is 1/10th of the US rate.
>
> As for net job loss, it's been a lot of political hype - sure, there are
> many people out of work, and many people were blindly ignorant and didn't
> see it happening until they got their pink slips, but it was writing on
> the wall for more than a year in most locations if people just weren't
> sheep.
>
> I left a job as a director making a very good salary, I left that job on a
> spurious decision, I had always want to start my own company, but, when
> asked to fire a group in order to outsource their positions - I decided to
> leave that company and start my own. No planning, no seed money, etc.. and
> the interesting thing is that we're still growing, we're still making
> money, and we're still picking up quality clients and adding to the team.
> We have not been impacted by the economy, but I suspect we understand the
> nature of the industry and where it's moving/needs are and were to
> position our skills/resources for best ROI.
>
> You can't blame Bush for job loss during his first term, no President has
> that much impact on the economy, it was already in the works when he took
> office. If you go back and look at the economy and where it was headed,
> there was nothing that any President (either R/D/I) could have done to
> prevent it, it's just simple economics and corporate greed.
>
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