DEMO - Starship Troopers released

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The only thing I liked about this demo was that Nvdia ad with the bugs
before the game boots up. But then it doesn't take much to entertain me!


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> On 2005-09-05, riku <riku@none.invalid.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 16:29:13 -0400, Tim O <timo56@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Does it take about 150 rounds of ammo to kill every enemy, like the
>>>silly ass movie?
>>
>> Depends which weapon you use. If you use the basic weapon with
>> unlimited ammo, yes it can take ages to shoot even one enemy down,
>> even though I noticed that sometimes they did go down quickly
>> depending where you shot even with the basic weapon.
>
> Here's a tip: Aim for the nerve stem and put it down for good.
>
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> I can't even get it to run. Gets to the point where it loads the level,
> presents the Objects, then has a "Start mission" button towards the bottom

Doh! "Objectives", not Objects.

 

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>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You haven't played the demo have you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just download it and played it. Yuck. How did they manage to screw up
>>>>> the camera on an FPS game. Everytime I moved the camera was sluggish
>>>>> and kept jerking around. Thank steamkiller for providing the demo link
>>>>> for this game. Now I know to avoid buying it. I might have being a
>>>>> Starship Trooper fan.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ive downloaded, installed and TRIED to play the Demo. It .. well ..
>>>> 'runs' isn't the proper word. It crawls, in slow motion. sound is
>>>> full speed and good, camera responds to the mouse just fine.
>>>> Characters/action/shooting is like molasses.
>>>> Running it on an X2 4800+ 2 gigs PC3200 in dual channel and 6800GT, XP
>>>> Pro SP2. I got the rig, but the game doesn't seem to believe it.
>>>> McG.
>>>
>>> 'Glad' to hear that - thought it was my PC....
>>>
>> So what are your rigs specs? If a 64 bit cpu, that could be it... that
>> engine could have some problems with them.
>> McG.
>
> Nah - 'just' an AMD XP2800 Barton here. Graphics, sounds etc are great -
> movement/camera like through molasses - tried first part of demo and
> didn't want to try the rest. Not on my buy list currently unless someone
> comes up with a tweak so I can see how the game should be.
>
> Rest of specs are NF7-S(2), 1.5GB PC3200 (running dual), 9800Pro, Audigy 2
> ZS
>
>
>

The only thing i see about 'low framerate' is to do with sound issues. I am
using the onboard soundchip and you an Audigy2 ZS. Well, I'll play with
that part and see what happens.
McG.

 

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"Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in message
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>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You haven't played the demo have you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just download it and played it. Yuck. How did they manage to screw up
>>>>> the camera on an FPS game. Everytime I moved the camera was sluggish
>>>>> and kept jerking around. Thank steamkiller for providing the demo link
>>>>> for this game. Now I know to avoid buying it. I might have being a
>>>>> Starship Trooper fan.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ive downloaded, installed and TRIED to play the Demo. It .. well ..
>>>> 'runs' isn't the proper word. It crawls, in slow motion. sound is
>>>> full speed and good, camera responds to the mouse just fine.
>>>> Characters/action/shooting is like molasses.
>>>> Running it on an X2 4800+ 2 gigs PC3200 in dual channel and 6800GT, XP
>>>> Pro SP2. I got the rig, but the game doesn't seem to believe it.
>>>> McG.
>>>
>>> 'Glad' to hear that - thought it was my PC....
>>>
>> So what are your rigs specs? If a 64 bit cpu, that could be it... that
>> engine could have some problems with them.
>> McG.
>
> Nah - 'just' an AMD XP2800 Barton here. Graphics, sounds etc are great -
> movement/camera like through molasses - tried first part of demo and
> didn't want to try the rest. Not on my buy list currently unless someone
> comes up with a tweak so I can see how the game should be.
>
> Rest of specs are NF7-S(2), 1.5GB PC3200 (running dual), 9800Pro, Audigy 2
> ZS
>
>
>

sound was already set to low, so I set it to high It ran better. Still
need to fiddle with the settings. This one feels like a 3D arcade shooter.
McG.

 

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>> "Hank the Rapper" <xflopgoon@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>
>>>> You haven't played the demo have you.
>>>
>>> Just download it and played it. Yuck. How did they manage to screw up
>>> the camera on an FPS game. Everytime I moved the camera was sluggish and
>>> kept jerking around. Thank steamkiller for providing the demo link for
>>> this game. Now I know to avoid buying it. I might have being a Starship
>>> Trooper fan.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ive downloaded, installed and TRIED to play the Demo. It .. well ..
>> 'runs' isn't the proper word. It crawls, in slow motion. sound is full
>> speed and good, camera responds to the mouse just fine.
>> Characters/action/shooting is like molasses.
>> Running it on an X2 4800+ 2 gigs PC3200 in dual channel and 6800GT, XP
>> Pro SP2. I got the rig, but the game doesn't seem to believe it.
>> McG.
>
> I can't even get it to run. Gets to the point where it loads the level,
> presents the Objects, then has a "Start mission" button towards the bottom
> right. When I click that, it just freezes up.
>
> AMD FX-53, ATI 800XT-PE, 2GB ram.
>
>
could be sound settings/drivers, could be video. setting my sound from low
to high in the game options menu made it go faster.
McG.

 

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On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 15:14:41 -0700, "bunboy" <bunboy@cox.net> wrote:

>The only thing I liked about this demo was that Nvdia ad with the bugs
>before the game boots up. But then it doesn't take much to entertain me!

Yet the game didn't entertain you as much as the ad, that's saying a
lot.

 

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On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 15:14:41 -0700, "bunboy" <bunboy@cox.net> wrote:

>The only thing I liked about this demo was that Nvdia ad with the bugs
>before the game boots up. But then it doesn't take much to entertain me!

That was by far the best bit of the demo 🙂
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DocScorpio wrote:
> I originally read ST when it was first published and didn't much like it.

Wow, the book was published in 1959.

 

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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 09:51:38 GMT, Johnny Bravo
<baawa_knight@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 07:33:26 GMT, riku <riku@none.invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 17:39:03 -0400, MCheu <mpcheu@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>If you're a masochist, the movie has a sequel.
>>
>>Different director, much smaller budget etc. It is like comparing
>>Terminator 3 to Terminator 2 or 1. Poor sequel does not make the
>>original bad.
>
> Compared to the book, the movies are utter drek. The original
>proposal wasn't even connected to ST, that was added later and other
>than a few bits of eye candy and a bit of a rewrite to satirize the
>book, there isn't really much to connect them.

Who cares? I rate the movie based on its own merits, not how closely
it follows a book. Satirizing the world (described in the book, or the
world we are living in) was one of the best parts of the ST movie. If
it didn't have that, then it probably would have been as painful to
watch as the ST movie sequel.

 

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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:34:01 GMT, "McGrandpa"
<McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:

>Ive downloaded, installed and TRIED to play the Demo. It .. well .. 'runs'
>isn't the proper word. It crawls, in slow motion. sound is full speed and
>good, camera responds to the mouse just fine. Characters/action/shooting is
>like molasses.

On my machine (AMD XP 1.8GHz (2000+) with 768Mb RAM and 256Mb ATI
Radeon x800 Pro) it ran quite smoothly on 1280x1024 resolution and
everything maxxed _except_ the shadows, which I turned off. With
shadows turned on, the game ran quite slowly and also the mouse didn't
respond fast.

 

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On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:10:27 +0100, "Shawk"
<shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:


>Nah - 'just' an AMD XP2800 Barton here. Graphics, sounds etc are great -
>movement/camera like through molasses - tried first part of demo and didn't
>want to try the rest. Not on my buy list currently unless someone comes up
>with a tweak so I can see how the game should be.

Try disabling the shadows. On my machine (AMD XP 2000+) it meant a lot
to the performance, everything else could be maxxed out.

 

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On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 09:05:39 +0100, Toby <google@asktoby.com> wrote:

>On 2005-09-05, riku <riku@none.invalid.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 16:29:13 -0400, Tim O <timo56@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Does it take about 150 rounds of ammo to kill every enemy, like the
>>>silly ass movie?
>>
>> Depends which weapon you use. If you use the basic weapon with
>> unlimited ammo, yes it can take ages to shoot even one enemy down,
>> even though I noticed that sometimes they did go down quickly
>> depending where you shot even with the basic weapon.
>
>Here's a tip: Aim for the nerve stem and put it down for good.

Yes, seeing the movie I thought that would be the ticket, the only
problem is I can't really tell where the "nerve stem" is. 😉 I presume
it is somewhere where the head of the bug connects to the rest of its
body, that's where I recall the ST movie scientist shot the bug when
demonstrating its weakness.

 

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"riku" <riku@none.invalid.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:10:27 +0100, "Shawk"
> <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:
>
>
>>Nah - 'just' an AMD XP2800 Barton here. Graphics, sounds etc are great -
>>movement/camera like through molasses - tried first part of demo and
>>didn't
>>want to try the rest. Not on my buy list currently unless someone comes
>>up
>>with a tweak so I can see how the game should be.
>
> Try disabling the shadows. On my machine (AMD XP 2000+) it meant a lot
> to the performance, everything else could be maxxed out.
>

Tried that and it did improve thanks. Also put 'up' sound quality as per
McG and that also improved it (wierd). Camera still has an element of
'floating' though. That seems to be in the game and not something I can
change.

 

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Thusly riku <riku@none.invalid.com> Spake Unto All:

>it follows a book. Satirizing the world (described in the book, or the
>world we are living in) was one of the best parts of the ST movie. If
>it didn't have that, then it probably would have been as painful to
>watch as the ST movie sequel.

Agreed. Making ST as if it was a WWII-style propaganda recruiting
movie from that future fascist world was a stroke of genius. It,
together with the sometimes frantic carnage (silly though it was -
present-day Abrams or A10 Warthogs had crushed those Arachnids with
ease) made the movie one of the best recent sci-fi's. I mean, after
that, what have there been? Star Wars?

ST2 was only the feature-length pilot for the TV-series, wasn't it?

 

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"Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in message
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> "riku" <riku@none.invalid.com> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:10:27 +0100, "Shawk"
>> <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Nah - 'just' an AMD XP2800 Barton here. Graphics, sounds etc are great -
>>>movement/camera like through molasses - tried first part of demo and
>>>didn't
>>>want to try the rest. Not on my buy list currently unless someone comes
>>>up
>>>with a tweak so I can see how the game should be.
>>
>> Try disabling the shadows. On my machine (AMD XP 2000+) it meant a lot
>> to the performance, everything else could be maxxed out.
>>
>
> Tried that and it did improve thanks. Also put 'up' sound quality as per
> McG and that also improved it (wierd). Camera still has an element of
> 'floating' though. That seems to be in the game and not something I can
> change.

Yeah, when I thought about that stuff while reading their readme, i figured
the shadows were the worst of it. The sound was about half and shadows the
other half. I just set them down a notch, didn't disable em. Game still
looks good and its even playable right now
McG.

 

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"knight37" <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> DocScorpio wrote:
>> I originally read ST when it was first published and didn't much like it.
>
> Wow, the book was published in 1959.
>

<still laughing at that one! >

I read my very first book in 1961. It was thrilling! It took me almost a
year to wade through! It was "Tarzan" by Edgar Rice Burroughs 😱)))
McG.

 

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> "knight37" <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> DocScorpio wrote:
>>> I originally read ST when it was first published and didn't much like
>>> it.
>>
>> Wow, the book was published in 1959.
>>
>
> <still laughing at that one! >
>
> I read my very first book in 1961. It was thrilling! It took me almost a
> year to wade through! It was "Tarzan" by Edgar Rice Burroughs 😱)))
> McG.
>
I don't recall when I read my first book (think it was "Kit Carson" in the
Beal book series), but I read my first sci-fi novel, Lester Del Rey's
(pseud. Philip St. John) "Rocket Jockey" in 1952. I was a big fan of those
Winston sci-fi novels. After I read "Rocket Jockey," there was no turning
back. Sci-fi was the only fiction I read for the next decade or so. The
sad part is that a great many of those novels had us colonizing the solar
system by the 1970's. What a joke! It's a human disgrace that we landed on
the moon nearly 40 years ago and literally have done nothing since.

 

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In article <ge5oh1d59p4i1o61qphd4kma3224hf7n80@4ax.com>, Johnny Bravo
<baawa_knight@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 07:33:26 GMT, riku <riku@none.invalid.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 17:39:03 -0400, MCheu <mpcheu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>If you're a masochist, the movie has a sequel.
> >
> >Different director, much smaller budget etc. It is like comparing
> >Terminator 3 to Terminator 2 or 1. Poor sequel does not make the
> >original bad.
>
> Compared to the book, the movies are utter drek. The original
> proposal wasn't even connected to ST, that was added later and other
> than a few bits of eye candy and a bit of a rewrite to satirize the
> book, there isn't really much to connect them.

If people liked the movie for what it was and look for to a game with
gameplay like the movie's action scenes, how does the book matter in
any way?

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"DocScorpio" <docscorpio@strupra-spammeros.com> wrote in message
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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "knight37" <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> DocScorpio wrote:
>>>> I originally read ST when it was first published and didn't much like
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> Wow, the book was published in 1959.
>>>
>>
>> <still laughing at that one! >
>>
>> I read my very first book in 1961. It was thrilling! It took me almost
>> a year to wade through! It was "Tarzan" by Edgar Rice Burroughs 😱)))
>> McG.
>>
> I don't recall when I read my first book (think it was "Kit Carson" in the
> Beal book series), but I read my first sci-fi novel, Lester Del Rey's
> (pseud. Philip St. John) "Rocket Jockey" in 1952. I was a big fan of
> those Winston sci-fi novels. After I read "Rocket Jockey," there was no
> turning back. Sci-fi was the only fiction I read for the next decade or
> so. The sad part is that a great many of those novels had us colonizing
> the solar system by the 1970's. What a joke! It's a human disgrace that
> we landed on the moon nearly 40 years ago and literally have done nothing
> since.
>
we haven't exactly 'done nothing' man! We simply didn't keep pace with the
scifi writers predictions I'd be happy to see us driving cars that don't
burn stuff, like in Back To The Future!
McG.

 

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Dan Stephenson wrote:
> In article <ge5oh1d59p4i1o61qphd4kma3224hf7n80@4ax.com>, Johnny Bravo
> <baawa_knight@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Compared to the book, the movies are utter drek. The original
>>proposal wasn't even connected to ST, that was added later and other
>>than a few bits of eye candy and a bit of a rewrite to satirize the
>>book, there isn't really much to connect them.
>
>
> If people liked the movie for what it was and look for to a game with
> gameplay like the movie's action scenes, how does the book matter in
> any way?
>

Are you suggesting that some people actually *liked* that movie?

<boggle!>

 

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Briarroot wrote:
> Are you suggesting that some people actually *liked* that movie?

I liked it. I loved all the sarcastic social commentary.

Crippled guy: "The Mobile Infantry is what made me the man I am today!"

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Did you ever read any of L. Ron Hubbard's sci-fi works? I read one:
Battlefield Earth. In the forward, L. Ron. Hubbard goes on and on about what
a genius he is (inventing the sci-fi genre, etc.). The book wasn't bad, but
it didn't hold a candle to say, Isaac Asimov or Bradbury.

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>> "knight37" <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> DocScorpio wrote:
>>>> I originally read ST when it was first published and didn't much like
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> Wow, the book was published in 1959.
>>>
>>
>> <still laughing at that one! >
>>
>> I read my very first book in 1961. It was thrilling! It took me almost
>> a year to wade through! It was "Tarzan" by Edgar Rice Burroughs 😱)))
>> McG.
>>
> I don't recall when I read my first book (think it was "Kit Carson" in the
> Beal book series), but I read my first sci-fi novel, Lester Del Rey's
> (pseud. Philip St. John) "Rocket Jockey" in 1952. I was a big fan of
> those Winston sci-fi novels. After I read "Rocket Jockey," there was no
> turning back. Sci-fi was the only fiction I read for the next decade or
> so. The sad part is that a great many of those novels had us colonizing
> the solar system by the 1970's. What a joke! It's a human disgrace that
> we landed on the moon nearly 40 years ago and literally have done nothing
> since.
>

 

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Doug wrote:

> Did you ever read any of L. Ron Hubbard's sci-fi works? I read one:
> Battlefield Earth. In the forward, L. Ron. Hubbard goes on and on about what
> a genius he is (inventing the sci-fi genre, etc.). The book wasn't bad, but
> it didn't hold a candle to say, Isaac Asimov or Bradbury.

Might want to look for better SF and fantasy writers. I'd suggest Neal
Stephenson, Robert Silverberg, Bruce Sterling, Harlan Ellison, Harry
Harrison, Ray Bradbury, Philip Jose Farmer, the great Alfred Bester...

 

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knight37 wrote:
> Briarroot wrote:
>
>>Are you suggesting that some people actually *liked* that movie?
>
>
> I liked it. I loved all the sarcastic social commentary.
>
> Crippled guy: "The Mobile Infantry is what made me the man I am today!"
>

<laughter!>

There was a good movie in there somewhere, struggling to get out.
Unfortunately it didn't!

 

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Thusly "knight37" <knight37m@gmail.com> Spake Unto All:

>
>Briarroot wrote:
>> Are you suggesting that some people actually *liked* that movie?
>
>I liked it. I loved all the sarcastic social commentary.
>
>Crippled guy: "The Mobile Infantry is what made me the man I am today!"

I think many don't get that the whole movie is a political satire,
exactly like Robocop (from the same director) and that it's *supposed*
to play like a propaganda movie from the future. The whole format
reminds me of WWII and cold war propaganda movies like John Mills'
"Ice Cold In Alex" (and, although less so, of modern propaganda movies
like 'Rules of Engagement' for that matter). It isn't supposed to
portray war realistically, it's supposed to portray war as a rousing
adventure.