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Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk> thought that a good
way to threaten somebody was to light a stick of dynamite, then call
the guy and hold the burning fuse up to the phone and say:

> Thusly "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> Spake Unto All:
>
>>Hubbard wrote a lot of stuff, and not just for sci-fi; he's the
>>esteemed founder of the Church of Scientology.
>
> Esteemed? By whom? A guy who founds a church on a bar bet, after
> having asserted at a Sci-Fi convention (and in the bar) that the
> only way to make serious money as a sci-fi writer is to found a
> religion...

I despise the Church of Scientology, but I just love the expressions
on my friends' faces when I tell them the story of Xenu and they
Thetans.

I think they still wouldn't believe it if I didn't show them the
stuff on the Op: Clambake website and supporting proof.

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Ajay Tanwar wrote:

> Brian Siano <siano@mail.med.upenn.edu> thought that a good way to

> Alfred Bester is >amazing<. I finished Tiger, Tiger (The Stars My
> Destination) and am in the middle of The Demolished Man and to think
> this was written in the 50's is mindblowing.
>
> Also, if you are looking for something newer, Hyperion by Dan Simmons
> and A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge have truely earned the label
> "modern classic".

Wanna hear something cool? I once _met_ Alfred Bester.

And you're right about Dan Simmons, especially _Hyperion_. I haven't
reda Verner Vinge much. I oughta mention that while Charles Stross is
really hot right now, I thought _Singularity Sky_ was garbage... but
maybe his other stuff's better.

 

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"DocScorpio" <docscorpio@strupra-spammeros.com> wrote in message
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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cNWTe.48421$Nx.1660@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>
>> "Briarroot" <woodsyl@iwon.com> wrote in message
>> news:11i08sdq3j6v2df@corp.supernews.com...
>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>> "Briarroot" <woodsyl@iwon.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:11hupvd3h3n5n69@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>There was a good movie in there somewhere, struggling to get out.
>>>>>Unfortunately it didn't!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey, it was still entertaining! About like Battlefield Earth (the
>>>> movie).
>>>> McG.
>>>
>>> I guess you're right. After all, I *did* watch it all the way through
>>> when it was broadcast on TV. ;-)
>>>
>>
>> In the first few minutes of each movie, I felt they were social satire
>> and was able to get a few smiles and chuckles from each. ST is less
>> thought provoking than BE to me. I did find myself wandering around the
>> thought "well, what WOULD Earth be like IF it got ran over and humanity
>> all but stamped out and left to start over?" But that very theme has
>> been written over and over and over by a lot of writers. I've enjoyed
>> the theme though.
>> McG.
> I thought ST was infinitely better than BE. BE was tolerable till we got
> to the part where they started up the F-16's which had been parked for
> centuries (apparently fully-fueled and prepped) and then taught the
> "cavemen" how to fly them perfectly on simulators. My ability to suspend
> disbelief vanished at that point. The bizarre military tactics in ST
> weren't even a close second to this nonsense.
Ah, those were AV8 Harriers. But the whole of the world they show seemed to
be abandoned about some 50 to 100 years, not a couple millenia! Our stuff
falls apart faster than those folks think. Books, paper...intact after all
that You're right, it was difficult to stay with it on that angle. I
just pretended it was fifty years 😉
McG.

 

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Thusly Ajay Tanwar <ajtanwar@yahoo.com> Spake Unto All:

>I despise the Church of Scientology, but I just love the expressions
>on my friends' faces when I tell them the story of Xenu and they
>Thetans.
>
>I think they still wouldn't believe it if I didn't show them the
>stuff on the Op: Clambake website and supporting proof.

It's completely insane, yes. I've had much the same response when
telling my friends about scientologist beliefs. It's hard to fathom
that seemingly intelligent people like Tom Cruise and John Travolta*
actually believes that all humans are not one but several space
aliens, and that psychologists are a separate race of space aliens
which have controlled and enslaved humanity for billions of years.

* They've paid their $ and are now advanced operating thetans and know
the 'secret' now... and are immune to disease as they've rid themself
of their body thetans (the extra space alien souls leftover from when
Xenu exploded the space aliens in volcanos, using neutron bombs).

 

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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 07:37:00 -0400, Briarroot <woodsyl@iwon.com>
wrote:

>http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/1997/11/07starship.html
>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/03/07/235612.php

Two sites just crying how the movie wasn't a carbon-copy of the book
and did not support its fascist views. Tough.

 

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riku wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 07:37:00 -0400, Briarroot <woodsyl@iwon.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/1997/11/07starship.html
>>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/03/07/235612.php
>
>
> Two sites just crying how the movie wasn't a carbon-copy of the book
> and did not support its fascist views. Tough.
>

<laughter!> *Who* did you say had the comprehension problems? ;-)

 

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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 07:56:35 -0400, Briarroot <woodsyl@iwon.com>
wrote:

>Therefore, when you read a line like: "Are you suggesting that some
>people actually *liked* that movie? <boggle!>" its humor *should* be
>self-evident to all but the most pedantic.

That's exactly why I wrote "...your question was probably supposed to
be as stupid as it sounds...". Yes, it was simply a stupid and
arrogant try at humor, I guess.

>What he was *really* suggesting is that my opinion is inferior to the
>'correct' opinion

No it wasn't. Like I said, you have severe reading comprehension
problems. After all, it was you who suggested no one in their right
mind could like the movie, ie. your opinion about the movie is the
"right one". Pot, kettle, black?

 

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riku wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 07:56:35 -0400, Briarroot <woodsyl@iwon.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Therefore, when you read a line like: "Are you suggesting that some
>>people actually *liked* that movie? <boggle!>" its humor *should* be
>>self-evident to all but the most pedantic.
>
>
> That's exactly why I wrote "...your question was probably supposed to
> be as stupid as it sounds...". Yes, it was simply a stupid and
> arrogant try at humor, I guess.
>
>>What he was *really* suggesting is that my opinion is inferior to the
>>'correct' opinion
>
>
> No it wasn't. Like I said, you have severe reading comprehension
> problems. After all, it was you who suggested no one in their right
> mind could like the movie, ie. your opinion about the movie is the
> "right one". Pot, kettle, black?
>

<chuckle!>

It's revealing that you're unable to see the self-contradictory nature
of your diatribe. Pot, kettle, indeed!

 

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"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> writes:

> I think he must be a Brit. I've never seen so much dry poker faced humour
> in my life except from Brits

Vermonters come close, but without the refinement. :^)

Nick

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Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> Thusly Ajay Tanwar <ajtanwar@yahoo.com> Spake Unto All:
>
>
>>I despise the Church of Scientology, but I just love the expressions
>>on my friends' faces when I tell them the story of Xenu and they
>>Thetans.
>>
>>I think they still wouldn't believe it if I didn't show them the
>>stuff on the Op: Clambake website and supporting proof.
>
>
> It's completely insane, yes. I've had much the same response when
> telling my friends about scientologist beliefs. It's hard to fathom
> that seemingly intelligent people like Tom Cruise and John Travolta*
> actually believes that all humans are not one but several space
> aliens, and that psychologists are a separate race of space aliens
> which have controlled and enslaved humanity for billions of years.

They dont believe any of that. They are having a joke at the expense of
other "religions" : such as ones where 5000 people were fed with a fish
and loaf or two.

More power to them is what I say. Oh, and they get tax breaks.

>
> * They've paid their $ and are now advanced operating thetans and know
> the 'secret' now... and are immune to disease as they've rid themself
> of their body thetans (the extra space alien souls leftover from when
> Xenu exploded the space aliens in volcanos, using neutron bombs).
>
>


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Thusly Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com> Spake Unto All:

>> It's completely insane, yes. I've had much the same response when
>> telling my friends about scientologist beliefs. It's hard to fathom
>> that seemingly intelligent people like Tom Cruise and John Travolta*
>> actually believes that all humans are not one but several space
>> aliens, and that psychologists are a separate race of space aliens
>> which have controlled and enslaved humanity for billions of years.
>
>They dont believe any of that. They are having a joke at the expense of
>other "religions" : such as ones where 5000 people were fed with a fish
>and loaf or two.

Oh I wish that were true.

>More power to them is what I say. Oh, and they get tax breaks.

I say the less power to them the better. And no church should get tax
breaks.

 

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Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> Thusly Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com> Spake Unto All:
>
>
>>>It's completely insane, yes. I've had much the same response when
>>>telling my friends about scientologist beliefs. It's hard to fathom
>>>that seemingly intelligent people like Tom Cruise and John Travolta*
>>>actually believes that all humans are not one but several space
>>>aliens, and that psychologists are a separate race of space aliens
>>>which have controlled and enslaved humanity for billions of years.
>>
>>They dont believe any of that. They are having a joke at the expense of
>>other "religions" : such as ones where 5000 people were fed with a fish
>>and loaf or two.
>
>
> Oh I wish that were true.
>
>
>>More power to them is what I say. Oh, and they get tax breaks.
>
>
> I say the less power to them the better. And no church should get tax
> breaks.
>
>

Would you deny the social improvements encouraged by a "decent" religion?

Thou shalt not .... etc.

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Thusly Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com> Spake Unto All:

>Would you deny the social improvements encouraged by a "decent" religion?
>
>Thou shalt not .... etc.

Yeah, I would. Just like I deny the physical improvements encouraged
by decent religion, like "God created all kinds".

Taboos against e.g. murder and incest are much older than any
presently existing religion, and are in fact found in non-human
species as well. And atheists are not more prone to commit murder than
devout Believers. This is simply not something religion can take
credit for, try as they might.