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How does one disable the L1 and L2 cache in the bios setup program for a
P4P800SE? The cache settings certainly don't jump right out at you, or
maybe i am blind.
 
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In article <414292f0_3@corp.newsgroups.com>, "\"Outback\" Jon"
<kc2bne@mh.no.spam.online.net> wrote:

> John M. Hunt wrote:
> > How does one disable the L1 and L2 cache in the bios setup program
> > for a P4P800SE? The cache settings certainly don't jump right out at
> > you, or maybe i am blind.
>
> I can't be of any help, but I am curious as to why you'd want to disable the
> cache...

He is trying to escape the clutches of the WinXP SP2 update.

Methinks he is screwed. In my research so far today, I've uncovered
a number of things missing from the AMI BIOS, and this just adds
another one to the list. I don't see an L1/L2 disable function.
(If there was a hot key to throw the BIOS into some kind of debug
mode, that is the only extreme hypothesis I can think of...)

I tried an experiment just now, using a recipe that worked in the
past with Award BIOS, where you could use a microcode from another
BIOS. The program CTMC accesses a built in microcode function that
seems to be implemented in the Award BIOS - it allows programmatic
loading of one 2KB microcode segment, and would have been a perfect
way to get out of this jam. I tried it on my P4C800-E Deluxe
with the original factory 1014 BIOS on it. My Northwood is at
revision 17, and I got a revision 21 microcode to try and update
it. Unfortunately, CTMC says the microcode update function is not
supported, and because that function was specified at a particular
interrupt number and function code (D042) by Intel, my theory was
both the AMI and the Award BIOSes would work. Alas, such is not
to be.

John will have to flash up to 1005 or 1005.003, reinstall Windows,
or move the disk to another computer and rename the update.sys file
so it cannot load.

This is my previous test of P4P800SE BIOS.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=nospam-2908042346350001%40192.168.1.177

HTH,
Paul
 
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"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
news:nospam-1109040715230001@192.168.1.177...
> In article <414292f0_3@corp.newsgroups.com>, "\"Outback\" Jon"
> <kc2bne@mh.no.spam.online.net> wrote:
>
> > John M. Hunt wrote:
> > > How does one disable the L1 and L2 cache in the bios setup program
> > > for a P4P800SE? The cache settings certainly don't jump right out at
> > > you, or maybe i am blind.
> >
> > I can't be of any help, but I am curious as to why you'd want to disable
the
> > cache...
>
> He is trying to escape the clutches of the WinXP SP2 update.
>
> Methinks he is screwed. In my research so far today, I've uncovered
> a number of things missing from the AMI BIOS, and this just adds
> another one to the list. I don't see an L1/L2 disable function.
> (If there was a hot key to throw the BIOS into some kind of debug
> mode, that is the only extreme hypothesis I can think of...)
>
> I tried an experiment just now, using a recipe that worked in the
> past with Award BIOS, where you could use a microcode from another
> BIOS. The program CTMC accesses a built in microcode function that
> seems to be implemented in the Award BIOS - it allows programmatic
> loading of one 2KB microcode segment, and would have been a perfect
> way to get out of this jam. I tried it on my P4C800-E Deluxe
> with the original factory 1014 BIOS on it. My Northwood is at
> revision 17, and I got a revision 21 microcode to try and update
> it. Unfortunately, CTMC says the microcode update function is not
> supported, and because that function was specified at a particular
> interrupt number and function code (D042) by Intel, my theory was
> both the AMI and the Award BIOSes would work. Alas, such is not
> to be.
>
> John will have to flash up to 1005 or 1005.003, reinstall Windows,
> or move the disk to another computer and rename the update.sys file
> so it cannot load.
>
> This is my previous test of P4P800SE BIOS.
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=nospam-2908042346350001%40192.168.1.177
>
> HTH,
> Paul

Many thanks Paul for your very informative message. I am not yet in trouble
as I have been cautiously following the SP2/Prescott stories
but have not actually tried SP2

Your suggestion to put the hard drive with the SP2 modification into another
computer to remove the update file is an excellent one if I get onto
trouble.
Unfortunately, none of my other motherboards have SATA connectors, although
in a pinch I could install a spare ribbon IDE drive in the P4P800SE, install
XP from scratch, then put the
SP2 inoperable boot SATA disk in as a non boot drive long enough to access
and remove the offending file..



Off the top of your head, does the removal of the update fdile (which
presumably prevents any microcode corrections or updates from installing)
result in
less satisfactory performance of the Prescott? It would appear that, at
least in certain circumstances, the updates have some merit..

Also do you have any feeling regarding the likelihood of being able to use
the TrueImage restore mechanism to restore the old C image (pre-SP2) if the
computer is in the hung state which is the subject of all the Prescott/SP2
problems
 
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:14:38 -0400, nospam@needed.com (Paul) wrote:

>In article <414292f0_3@corp.newsgroups.com>, "\"Outback\" Jon"
><kc2bne@mh.no.spam.online.net> wrote:
>
>> John M. Hunt wrote:
>> > How does one disable the L1 and L2 cache in the bios setup program
>> > for a P4P800SE? The cache settings certainly don't jump right out at
>> > you, or maybe i am blind.
>>
>> I can't be of any help, but I am curious as to why you'd want to disable the
>> cache...
>
>He is trying to escape the clutches of the WinXP SP2 update.
>
>Methinks he is screwed. In my research so far today, I've uncovered
>a number of things missing from the AMI BIOS, and this just adds
>another one to the list. I don't see an L1/L2 disable function.
>(If there was a hot key to throw the BIOS into some kind of debug
>mode, that is the only extreme hypothesis I can think of...)
>
>I tried an experiment just now, using a recipe that worked in the
>past with Award BIOS, where you could use a microcode from another
>BIOS. The program CTMC accesses a built in microcode function that
>seems to be implemented in the Award BIOS - it allows programmatic
>loading of one 2KB microcode segment, and would have been a perfect
>way to get out of this jam. I tried it on my P4C800-E Deluxe
>with the original factory 1014 BIOS on it. My Northwood is at
>revision 17, and I got a revision 21 microcode to try and update
>it. Unfortunately, CTMC says the microcode update function is not
>supported, and because that function was specified at a particular
>interrupt number and function code (D042) by Intel, my theory was
>both the AMI and the Award BIOSes would work. Alas, such is not
>to be.
>
>John will have to flash up to 1005 or 1005.003, reinstall Windows,
>or move the disk to another computer and rename the update.sys file
>so it cannot load.

Paul,
Why couldn't he leave the drive in his computer and rename update.sys
from the Repair Console, as Microsoft suggests?


Ron
 
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"Milleron" <millerdot90@SPAMlessosu.edu> wrote in message
news:1h09k0hsvfo5k5e9q03jr2lf2eovgtt690@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:14:38 -0400, nospam@needed.com (Paul) wrote:
>
> >In article <414292f0_3@corp.newsgroups.com>, "\"Outback\" Jon"
> ><kc2bne@mh.no.spam.online.net> wrote:
> >
> >> John M. Hunt wrote:
> >> > How does one disable the L1 and L2 cache in the bios setup program
> >> > for a P4P800SE? The cache settings certainly don't jump right out at
> >> > you, or maybe i am blind.
> >>
> >> I can't be of any help, but I am curious as to why you'd want to
disable the
> >> cache...
> >
> >He is trying to escape the clutches of the WinXP SP2 update.
> >
> >Methinks he is screwed. In my research so far today, I've uncovered
> >a number of things missing from the AMI BIOS, and this just adds
> >another one to the list. I don't see an L1/L2 disable function.
> >(If there was a hot key to throw the BIOS into some kind of debug
> >mode, that is the only extreme hypothesis I can think of...)
> >
> >I tried an experiment just now, using a recipe that worked in the
> >past with Award BIOS, where you could use a microcode from another
> >BIOS. The program CTMC accesses a built in microcode function that
> >seems to be implemented in the Award BIOS - it allows programmatic
> >loading of one 2KB microcode segment, and would have been a perfect
> >way to get out of this jam. I tried it on my P4C800-E Deluxe
> >with the original factory 1014 BIOS on it. My Northwood is at
> >revision 17, and I got a revision 21 microcode to try and update
> >it. Unfortunately, CTMC says the microcode update function is not
> >supported, and because that function was specified at a particular
> >interrupt number and function code (D042) by Intel, my theory was
> >both the AMI and the Award BIOSes would work. Alas, such is not
> >to be.
> >
> >John will have to flash up to 1005 or 1005.003, reinstall Windows,
> >or move the disk to another computer and rename the update.sys file
> >so it cannot load.
>
> Paul,
> Why couldn't he leave the drive in his computer and rename update.sys
> from the Repair Console, as Microsoft suggests?
>
>
> Ron

Yes, that is a possibility if the uppity Repair Console will cooperate. If
the necessity arises ( I am not yet in trouble) I will try that first as it
is an excellent suggestion

John M. Hunt
 

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