Discussion: Nvidia Pascal

[Vorador2]

If Pascal is that much more powerful, then at least initially, it will be priced accordingly, otherwise it immediately obsoletes multiple prior generations, which will be stuck on shelves forever unless they're sold at a big loss.

If nvidia had a monopoly, i would agree with you. But with AMD Polaris looming around, nvidia cannot overprice, or they risk losing a big chunk of the market to AMD if Polaris is cheaper.

The most sensible choice IMHO would be for nvidia to implement a buyback program and buy the unsold cards in exchange of credit for Pascal hardware. Then refurbish and sell those cards to OEMs that can move that stock of less appealing hardware.

In any case, it also depends that Pascal has good yields. If availability of Pascal is limited, everything i've said doesn't matter.

 

[Paradox1313]

Any more information on this, specifically a release date?
I am planning a build and just been informed about this new tech and the last thing I want to do is buy older stuff when this new one is around the corner.

 

[TechyInAZ]

It looks like April 2016 is the offical release date: http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/nvidia-pascal-gpu-release-date-in-april-2016/37864.htm

 

[Paradox1313]

It looks like April 2016 is the offical release date: http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/nvidia-pascal-gpu-release-date-in-april-2016/37864.htm

Can that site be trusted for correct information?

 

[Vorador2]

Leaked roadmaps pointed to April, but things look difficult for that date to be kept. Not only nvidia has kept mum on the whole thing but also on the nvidia Drive PX 2 demonstration on January the supposedly Pascal GPUs on the board were Maxwell GPUs. Remember the infamous wood screws on the 2009 Fermi presentation? Something like that.

So everything points to a delay, with no release date on sight.

 

[Paradox1313]

Sounds like I should flag the Pascal and just update again next year.

 

[sorrowhill9]

I can't decide if i should wait for the 1080ti in late 2016 or get a 980ti right now. i have a 960 and i have to lower the 3D render resolution to 80% in order to keep 144fps in black ops 3.

 

[Mousemonkey]

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/rumor-nvidia-mobile-pascal-gpus-during-computex-2016.html

Hmm...

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Maybe it's called Pascal 'cause it does well under pressure.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Mobile GPUs releasing first?? 🙁 🙁

 

[Mousemonkey]

Mobile GPUs releasing first?? 🙁 🙁

I mentioned a while back in a post somewhere that there had been no mention of discrete card/GPU/performance or existence (pick one), so yeah.

Maybe this is all Pascal ever was and Volta is the next desktop part.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Mobile GPUs releasing first?? 🙁 🙁

I mentioned a while back in a post somewhere that there had been no mention of discrete card/GPU/performance or existence (pick one), so yeah.

Maybe this is all Pascal ever was and Volta is the next desktop part.

Sorry, I didn't catch your post on that.

Now you've got me curious about volta. 😀

 

[Mousemonkey]

IIRC Volta was next in line after Maxwell on a roadmap from a while back and it had no mention of Pascal on it.

 

[stavrosmast]

I saw on google that in mid summer pascal will come out for laptops at first then after summer for desktops versions 🙁

 

[imrazor]

I'll have to get in line for a 1060. If the 1070 is at the same price point as the 970 was when it came out, it'll be too rich for my blood. But hey, maybe a 1010 will double my GTX 670 performance.

 

[Mousemonkey]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7900/nvidia-updates-gpu-roadmap-unveils-pascal-architecture-for-2016

I knew I didn't imagine it! :lol:

 

[stavrosmast]

670=760=960 Just to know

 

[TechyInAZ]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7900/nvidia-updates-gpu-roadmap-unveils-pascal-architecture-for-2016

I knew I didn't imagine it! :lol:

You missed the picture below that one. 😉

 

[Mousemonkey]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7900/nvidia-updates-gpu-roadmap-unveils-pascal-architecture-for-2016

I knew I didn't imagine it! :lol:

You missed the picture below that one. 😉

No I didn't, I said that Volta was next in line on an old roadmap, which it was and I posted a link to the article that sets out to explain why Pascal has been inserted.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Ah, got it.

 

[sorrowhill9]

Wait... So there is no pascal on PC in 2016?? Help

 

[turkey3_scratch]

So we're basically saying Pascal may be Broadwell 2.0?

 

[TechyInAZ]

So we're basically saying Pascal may be Broadwell 2.0?

Refresh...cough cough. 😀

 

[renz496]

@Varador2

AMD alsways been cheap but starting with 7k series they still losing market share. Plus looking how they price Fury X at the same price as 980Ti and not lower really shows that AMD was serious to remove that 'cheap alternative yet as powerful if not more' off their back. But more than often they have to lower their price in the end because of market pressure.

There are rumor nvidia launching mobile part first but it doesn't mean there will be no dekstop version of pascal. If anything that is more a move to defend their market share on notebook from AMD. Heard that nvidia already have big pascal in their lab for testing. They mention this in one of their presentation in SuperComputer 15 event last year. Right now the concern is yield. And for now nvidia most likely giving most of their attention to replacing their GK110/210 in HPC. IMO they cannot afford to wait for Volta when intel already launching KNL that easily twice as powerful than nvidia GK110/210 in DP performance late last year or they will lose potential customer to intel.

 

[Mousemonkey]

Wait... So there is no pascal on PC in 2016?? Help

Don't know tbh, I have yet to see any "official" word on it.