averageguy589 :
i dont want to run through hoops trying to update it
Motherboards with BIOS to boot Raven Ridge out of the box will have a sticker on the front saying 'Ryzen 2000 Ready'. But since there can still be older motherboards in the supply pipe you really need to be able to put your hands on the unopened box and verify it's there.
When buying on-line, you really have to assume it's not if nothing states it explicitly on the webpage or listing and proceed accordingly. Makes it very difficult when large e-tailers won't help by checking it for you, which some won't.