Question Does anyone have a preference when it comes to using Windows Display settings or the Nvidia or AMD software that comes with the GPU?

[PaulC55]

Does anyone have a preference when it comes to using Windows Display settings or the Nvidia or AMD software that comes with the GPU? I have always installed the software besides the drivers that come with the GPU or in the past it was a low profile graphics card.

 

[Aeacus]

I don't install bloatware in my system. E.g for my Nvidia GPU, i only install the drivers, while not installing the GeForce Experience. GPU doesn't need the bloatware to operate.

Afterwards, i only check from Nvidia control panel that i have the Hz matching my monitor. I might also look into Vsync settings. But other than that, i run vanilla.

 

[hotaru.hino]

When it comes to settings regarding the display only, I use Windows Settings. If I want to make tweaks regarding video card behavior, I use NVIDIA Control Panel or MSI Afterburner.

I don't install GeForce Experience because it has no value to me.

 

[Eximo]

I don't install Geforce Experience either.

You don't get much choice with Intel, but their tool is relatively featureless anyway at this point.

Between those two there is some difference in the default color saturation, but nothing too significant that is worth changing.

Been a while since I had an AMD GPU, HD6670, and I think I also just installed the drivers.

 

[PaulC55]

I don't install bloatware in my system. E.g for my Nvidia GPU, i only install the drivers, while not installing the GeForce Experience. GPU doesn't need the bloatware to operate.

Afterwards, i only check from Nvidia control panel that i have the Hz matching my monitor. I might also look into Vsync settings. But other than that, i run vanilla.

That’s funny you say it’s bloatware instead of software. Installed the GeForce Experience because it’s how the drivers are updated. Instead of downloading from the NVidia Website. I don’t have to have it running all the time and can close it when I want. I like vanilla ice cream.

 

[Eximo]

It is a way to keep the drivers up to date. Not necessarily the best way.

Geforce Experience is intended to download optimal profiles for installed games, allow for recording, livestreaming etc. If you aren't doing these things it is a waste of space. Having it automatically update is also a risk. You never know when a bad update will be released.

For some people downloading the driver package over and over may also impact data limits with their ISP.

Windows will eventually download a WDDM driver if you don't keep it up to date as well.

Not often, but sometimes the best driver for a laptop is from the manufacturer and not the latest from Nvidia/AMD.

A manual download at regular, or irregular, intervals after reviewing the latest tech news is the safest choice.

 

[Avro Arrow]

If I want to change my default resolution, I just use Windows Settings. It's quicker and easier than using the actual driver package(s). Right-click the desktop, select display settings and then choose your resolution. There's nothing easier than that.

 

[PaulC55]

It is a way to keep the drivers up to date. Not necessarily the best way.

Geforce Experience is intended to download optimal profiles for installed games, allow for recording, livestreaming etc. If you aren't doing these things it is a waste of space. Having it automatically update is also a risk. You never know when a bad update will be released.

For some people downloading the driver package over and over may also impact data limits with their ISP.

Windows will eventually download a WDDM driver if you don't keep it up to date as well.

Not often, but sometimes the best driver for a laptop is from the manufacturer and not the latest from Nvidia/AMD.

A manual download at regular, or irregular, intervals after reviewing the latest tech news is the safest choice.

So how do you think AMD Adrenalin Engine compares to Nvidia GeForce Experience. I have that on my other Asus Prime 550 plus PC Build. I have the AMD Radeon RX6700 XT 12272 GB DDR6 2000MHz Ramdac

 

[PaulC55]

I do recording of Game clips, but I find it easier with X Box One Gaming Bar with the middle capture button on the X Box One Wireless Controller and the new X Box One X Wireless Controller that also works with the PC or X Box One.

 

[stonecarver]

Nvidia Control Panel, Manage 3D Settings and turn on DRS-Factors and set on 1.5x, 1.75,x 2.00x, and 2.25x. Let you use a 1920 x 1080 monitor with Quad HD AKA 2560 x 1440 or higher. In games it's great but I do admit you have to fine tune regular computer use so fonts don't look washed out or hard to see. So faking a 1920 x 1080 monitor to higher resolution. I also set Vertical sync to Fast in same 3-D settings

 

[Eximo]

So how do you think AMD Adrenalin Engine compares to Nvidia GeForce Experience. I have that on my other Asus Prime 550 plus PC Build. I have the AMD Radeon RX6700 XT 12272 GB DDR6 2000MHz Ramdac

Been too long since I had a Radeon card, back then I believe it was called Catalyst and the Adrenaline rebrand was a complete redesign. I may be misremembering but I think that started with the first R series cards? R9-290 and the like.

 

[Aeacus]

That’s funny you say it’s bloatware instead of software. Installed the GeForce Experience because it’s how the drivers are updated. Instead of downloading from the NVidia Website. I don’t have to have it running all the time and can close it when I want. I like vanilla ice cream.

Software that doesn't add anything value and/or isn't needed for hardware operation = bloatware.

Like i said, GeForce Experience isn't needed to use the GPU, hence why i consider it as bloatware. Same goes for MoBo utility programs. E.g for MSI MoBo, Dragon Center (used to be named MSI Command Center).

For GPU drivers, getting the latest may not be a good idea. As said above, you may get bad driver version, messing up your system.
I haven't updated my GPU drivers for years, since "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Currently running Nvidia v531.79 drivers, while the latest is v536.67.
And i'm not lazy enough to let others decide when and what to update in my system. Instead, i like to be on top, knowing very well what is going on in my build.

Btw, if you close GeForce Experience, it actually still remains running as background process. Sure, you can't see that from Task Manager, instead you need to use power user tools to see what is going on (e.g Process Explorer).

For other "utilities" offered by GeForce Experience, there are better programs. E.g for screen/gameplay capture, i use OBS.

In the end, preferences differ.

Been too long since I had a Radeon card, back then I believe it was called Catalyst

Catalyst it was/is.

Even i haven't had recent experience with Radeon GPUs. Latest/newest for me is Club3D HD 7770 Ghz Edition (living in my old AMD build).

 

[Avro Arrow]

So how do you think AMD Adrenalin Engine compares to Nvidia GeForce Experience. I have that on my other Asus Prime 550 plus PC Build. I have the AMD Radeon RX6700 XT 12272 GB DDR6 2000MHz Ramdac

I have personally never used GeForce experience but pretty much everyone who I've ever seen or heard comparing the two says that the Radeon Adrenalin Package is a much better setup with GeForce Experience being clunky and out-of-date in comparison.

Since I remember this video specifically, I'll show you Vex's video about it where he tries a Radeon card for the first time. The software experience is chapter 4 if you want to skip ahead but I would recommend watching the whole video:

 

[PaulC55]

Nvidia Control Panel, Manage 3D Settings and turn on DRS-Factors and set on 1.5x, 1.75,x 2.00x, and 2.25x. Let you use a 1920 x 1080 monitor with Quad HD AKA 2560 x 1440 or higher. In games it's great but I do admit you have to fine tune regular computer use so fonts don't look washed out or hard to see. So faking a 1920 x 1080 monitor to higher resolution. I also set Vertical sync to Fast in same 3-D settings

Ok So I have Gaming PC Monitors like a MSI 27” 1080 p Curved Monitor and up to 165 Hz. I use it with the Asus NVidia RTX 2060 with 6 or 8 GB DDR 5 Ram. Ray Tracing and it’s not the TUF Edition. It cost me $345 at MicroCenter back in 2021. Can I get 3D out of that by using NVidia Control Panel? Games went from 3D to VR in the last few years or so. Remember the $150 Nvidia 3D kit back 10 years ago? Games I have on PC are Assassins Creed Origins, Cyberpunk 2077, Max Payne 3, and Half Life Games on Steam. I have the Ubisoft app and Origin or EA App.

 

[PaulC55]

I have personally never used GeForce experience but pretty much everyone who I've ever seen or heard comparing the two says that the Radeon Adrenalin Package is a much better setup with GeForce Experience being clunky and out-of-date in comparison.

Since I remember this video specifically, I'll show you Vex's video about it where he tries a Radeon card for the first time. The software experience is chapter 4 if you want to skip ahead but I would recommend watching the whole video:

Thanks and by comparison I think that’s a good observation that AMD Adrenaline is more user friendly and better interface which is maroon and dark. It’s got a good amount of tuning and other settings. You can update your AMD Ryzen CPU besides your AMD Radeon GPU. Good package.

 

[PaulC55]

Software that doesn't add anything value and/or isn't needed for hardware operation = bloatware.

Like i said, GeForce Experience isn't needed to use the GPU, hence why i consider it as bloatware. Same goes for MoBo utility programs. E.g for MSI MoBo, Dragon Center (used to be named MSI Command Center).

For GPU drivers, getting the latest may not be a good idea. As said above, you may get bad driver version, messing up your system.
I haven't updated my GPU drivers for years, since "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Currently running Nvidia v531.79 drivers, while the latest is v536.67.
And i'm not lazy enough to let others decide when and what to update in my system. Instead, i like to be on top, knowing very well what is going on in my build.

Btw, if you close GeForce Experience, it actually still remains running as background process. Sure, you can't see that from Task Manager, instead you need to use power user tools to see what is going on (e.g Process Explorer).

For other "utilities" offered by GeForce Experience, there are better programs. E.g for screen/gameplay capture, i use OBS.

In the end, preferences differ.


Catalyst it was/is.

Even i haven't had recent experience with Radeon GPUs. Latest/newest for me is Club3D HD 7770 Ghz Edition (living in my old AMD build).

Gotcha. Thanks for the advice of tips. I like to get input or feedback from a few different folks. It’s pretty much to each his own but I’ll see about uninstalling GeForce Experience and I think you’re right that a new NVidia update to their GPUS may mess up a PC system. You can use Task Manager and go into device properties and have Windows update it from there. That more stripped and old school.

 

[boju]

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[Aeacus]

You can use Task Manager and go into device properties and have Windows update it from there. That more stripped and old school.

I prefer the manual way; going to official site, downloading the installer (preferably full installer, not the online version) and run the executable. I also keep the older version installers on my drive, since sometimes, there are need to revert back to the older version, while it could be difficult to find the old version from the net (malware free).

 

[PaulC55]

Nvidia Control Panel, Manage 3D Settings and turn on DRS-Factors and set on 1.5x, 1.75,x 2.00x, and 2.25x. Let you use a 1920 x 1080 monitor with Quad HD AKA 2560 x 1440 or higher. In games it's great but I do admit you have to fine tune regular computer use so fonts don't look washed out or hard to see. So faking a 1920 x 1080 monitor to higher resolution. I also set Vertical sync to Fast in same 3-D settings

This is my next question about Settings in Nvidia Control Panel. I use a 27" MSI Optix G27C4 Curved Gaming Monitor and its 1080P with up to 165MHz. The games play very smooth and I have no lag. Although I use a newer Pioneer 50" 4K Amazon Fire Airplay Smart TV and its Wi-Fi with Dolby Atmos. I had to do a clean install of Nvidia Video drivers, so I could successfully clone my MSI Monitor and Pioneer 4K big screen TV. An Nvidia Tech helped me a lot by chat support. I know the resolution is going to be actually finer than the PC Monitor because it's 4K. I have the TV at the opposite side of the PC Monitor in my room. It's why I don't do extended mode. I don't have room on this black desk because I have an Asus 24" Gaming PC Monitor next to it for my second Asus Gaming PC Build. For adjusting video settings, do I choose video player setting or Nvidia setting for edge enhancement and noise reduction? I'm using Nvidia settings at 30 for both at the moment.

 

[PaulC55]

I have personally never used GeForce experience but pretty much everyone who I've ever seen or heard comparing the two says that the Radeon Adrenalin Package is a much better setup with GeForce Experience being clunky and out-of-date in comparison.

Since I remember this video specifically, I'll show you Vex's video about it where he tries a Radeon card for the first time. The software experience is chapter 4 if you want to skip ahead but I would recommend watching the whole video:

I hear what he is saying, and I use Control Panel to uninstall any apps or drivers for hardware before I install drivers for my newer AMD or Nvidia GPU. You can use Windows 10 Menu and go down the list too. I haven't had trouble with installation of a GPU except an AMD Radeon Ghost 770R, and it was an old that a past friend gave me 7 years ago. Only 2 GB of DDR4 RAM.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Thanks and by comparison I think that’s a good observation that AMD Adrenaline is more user friendly and better interface which is maroon and dark. It’s got a good amount of tuning and other settings. You can update your AMD Ryzen CPU besides your AMD Radeon GPU. Good package.

You're very welcome. I'm glad to help.

A lot of people who I've spoken to that have used both really like the fact that you don't need to create an account with AMD like you do with nVidia. It just works like any other app.

 

[Avro Arrow]

I hear what he is saying, and I use Control Panel to uninstall any apps or drivers for hardware before I install drivers for my newer AMD or Nvidia GPU. You can use Windows 10 Menu and go down the list too. I haven't had trouble with installation of a GPU except an AMD Radeon Ghost 770R, and it was an old that a past friend gave me 7 years ago. Only 2 GB of DDR4 RAM.

If it's working for you, that's great. I would however recommend using DDU for every Adrenalin installation and update. It seems to ensure that you'll never have driver issues regardless of whether your card is a Radeon, GeForce or Arc. Recommending DDU in the past to people has solved so many driver issues that people have had in the past that it became one of the few apps that I consider to be vital.

Vex talks about the DDU tutorial on the Ancient Gameplays channel and he's right. The host of that channel is a really cool guy from Portugal named (are you ready for this...) Fabio. He is extremely knowledgeable about everything to do with Radeon and he's a bit of a nut so he's fun to watch as well. This is the video that Vex was talking about:

 

[PaulC55]

If it's working for you, that's great. I would however recommend using DDU for every Adrenalin installation and update. It seems to ensure that you'll never have driver issues regardless of whether your card is a Radeon, GeForce or Arc. Recommending DDU in the past to people has solved so many driver issues that people have had in the past that it became one of the few apps that I consider to be vital.

Vex talks about the DDU tutorial on the Ancient Gameplays channel and he's right. The host of that channel is a really cool guy from Portugal named (are you ready for this...) Fabio. He is extremely knowledgeable about everything to do with Radeon and he's a bit of a nut so he's fun to watch as well. This is the video that Vex was talking about:

Oh DDU. I haven’t heard of it before to be honest. I’ll watch the video and see what I think. If it’s better at handling uninstalls of previous Radeon or NVidia. drivers and software so be it. I think I have gone with more NVidia Graphics cards in the past but in recent years I have had a couple AMD Radeon GPUs. I had the AMD Radeon RX 570 with 8 GB DDR5 RAM. It was VR Ready. I replaced it with the AMD Radeon Power Color RX 6700 XT. 12 GB of DDR6 Ram. It’s a very good GPU and runs quiet.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Oh DDU. I haven’t heard of it before to be honest. I’ll watch the video and see what I think. If it’s better at handling uninstalls of previous Radeon or NVidia. drivers and software so be it. I think I have gone with more NVidia Graphics cards in the past but in recent years I have had a couple AMD Radeon GPUs. I had the AMD Radeon RX 570 with 8 GB DDR5 RAM. It was VR Ready. I replaced it with the AMD Radeon Power Color RX 6700 XT. 12 GB of DDR6 Ram. It’s a very good GPU and runs quiet.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a crucial piece of kit, especially for someone switching over from GeForce to Radeon because there's always some bit of GeForce drivers that don't get uninstalled correctly and there are always some registry entries that need to be removed as well.

I actually don't use safe mode when I use DDU (I'm lazy and couldn't be bothered), I just run it, restart, run it again, restart and install Adrenalin. Everyone I know of who has ever used it swears by it. I think that you will too. The last 14 cards that I've owned have all been Radeons:

2 x HD 4870
HD 5450
HD 5870
HD 6450
2 x HD 7970
2 x R9 Fury
RX 580 2048SP
RX 5700 XT
RX 6500 XT
RX 6600
RX 6800 XT

I've gotten pretty experienced with them (and I've been happy as hell with them too!). 😉👍