Question Does my PSU enough?

[Existz]

i just build a new PC after around 7 years on my Old PC.

My specs were
I5 8400 @2.8Ghz 6 core boost @4Ghz
Mobo Gigabyte H310-DS2.0
16GB corsair DDR4
Colorful 1660 ultra O6G
3 HDD (1x@2TB,2x@1TB)
1SSD (256GB)
Corsair VS450 80+
4 fan 120mm

my question are... does my PSU enough for my rig?
already around 2-3 months since i build this PC.
i game a lot.. around 4-6 hours normaly, sometimes 8 hours non stop
what i notice after this 2-3 months:
1. when i'm playing AC-Odysess on high-ultra(custom) setting.
@ when i'm limiting the FPS to 60, the GPU Power Draw max was 93.8 watt (GPU-Z)
@ when i let the GPU to full load the game to its maximum.. the power draw max was 109 watt (GPU-Z)
Q: is this because the GPU does not have enough power supplied by the PSU? (i read that this card TDP was 120watt)
2. i play PUBG lite (PC version) on Ultra around 4-5 hours usually. on ultra setting the GPU only load around 20-35% and Temperature around 45-50C, GPU clock stuck at 1200mhz
@The Game runs fine even at only 1200mhz and 20-35% of GPU usage
Q: again is this because my PSU can give enough power to my GPU?

my PSU calculator web. i get recomendation of 432 watt.. and TDP full load of my whole PC was 382 watt.
if my PSU was 450watt wih 80% efficiency which mean 450wattx20% loss= 360watt pure capacity does that mean i'm running out wattage for my pc parts?

thank you very much

 

[fredfinks]

It should be enough. However its not the best quality. Those calcs do a maximum draw on all parts.
Have a read of the stickied PSU threads and when you can upgrade to something better. I wouldnt worry for it to be an immediate thing to go out and fix. Just when you can.

Its a good idea to get a wall plug adapter that measures total system draw from the socket. They are cheap and give you accurate measurement of what you system is pulling at load. Its good to have spare overhead.

 

[Existz]

It should be enough. However its not the best quality. Those calcs do a maximum draw on all parts.
Have a read of the stickied PSU threads and when you can upgrade to something better. I wouldnt worry for it to be an immediate thing to go out and fix. Just when you can.

Its a good idea to get a wall plug adapter that measures total system draw from the socket. They are cheap and give you accurate measurement of what you system is pulling at load. Its good to have spare overhead.

thank you for your answer...
i feel better and yes i will fix when i can only. coz i dont have the budget anymore for PC,spend every cent for this build.

 

[Satan-IR]

Just to clarify the VS450 is a new unit and not from the 7-year old PC right?

It is an OK budget PSU. Not the best but better than some of the junk that people connect to their PC components.

You can use it for now but don't push it close to the limits of its capacity and it would be OK. Replace it with a better quality 550W when you can. As said above I think it's good to have some head room when it comes to PSUs as they lose some of their juice after a few years.

Maximum GPU does in terms of performance and power draw are determined by how hard it is working. That is also a function of what resolution and graphical settings the user sets and that differs in different games. You lower some setting and GPU works less and thus uses less power. You cap the fps and it works at a certain level and uses power at a certain level. When you remove the cap it has to work harder to give more frames and it uses more power.

So it's not necessarily because the PSU can not feed it. Also Does your GPU load reach near 100% use when gaming? Because if your CPU bottlenecks it a bit and it can't get near 100% load it won't use near 100% TDP.

 

[Existz]

Just to clarify the VS450 is a new unit and not from the 7-year old PC right?

It is an OK budget PSU. Not the best but better than some of the junk that people connect to their PC components.

You can use it for now but don't push it close to the limits of its capacity and it would be OK. Replace it with a better quality 550W when you can. As said above I think it's good to have some head room when it comes to PSUs as they lose some of their juice after a few years.

Maximum GPU does in terms of performance and power draw are determined by how hard it is working. That is also a function of what resolution and graphical settings the user sets and that differs in different games. You lower some setting and GPU works less and thus uses less power. You cap the fps and it works at a certain level and uses power at a certain level. When you remove the cap it has to work harder to give more frames and it uses more power.

So it's not necessarily because the PSU can not feed it. Also Does your GPU load reach near 100% use when gaming? Because if your CPU bottlenecks it a bit and it can't get near 100% load it won't use near 100% TDP.

No No No.. my old PSU was a 300 watt.. this VS450 is a new unit.
okay... i'm planning to buy EVGA 650 GD later..

actually everytime i play games the CPU only works at around 60-80% at max... the cpu itself never touch 100%
For example when playing just jause 4. the GPU sometimes reach 100% for a few second then drop to around 60-80% (high setting) at the same time the CPU only load around 40-60%. CPU temp around 50-66C and GPU around 60-65C. but still the highest reading on GPU-Z for power Draw was 109watt. but if what you explained correct. then i think its okay and i just over thinking about it. i'm hoping to use this new build for long time atleast 5 years.

PS: my GPU was an ultra model.. super long with 3 fans. with in my logic this thing will consume more power than any other 1660 brand on the market. my experience was with RX580 red devil that eat a lot more electricity than any other RX580 (normal RX580 average at 180-220watt but the red devil go up and eat 270watt) but i guess i should be happy everthing is fine and forget all the number LOL 😛

 

[Satan-IR]

You don't have to worry about the PSU (being a brand new one) but it's not a bad idea to upgrade to a better quality unit when you can.

 

[jonnyguru]

i just build a new PC after around 7 years on my Old PC.

My specs were
I5 8400 @2.8Ghz 6 core boost @4Ghz
Mobo Gigabyte H310-DS2.0
16GB corsair DDR4
Colorful 1660 ultra O6G
3 HDD (1x@2TB,2x@1TB)
1SSD (256GB)
Corsair VS450 80+
4 fan 120mm

my question are... does my PSU enough for my rig?
already around 2-3 months since i build this PC.
i game a lot.. around 4-6 hours normaly, sometimes 8 hours non stop
what i notice after this 2-3 months:
1. when i'm playing AC-Odysess on high-ultra(custom) setting.
@ when i'm limiting the FPS to 60, the GPU Power Draw max was 93.8 watt (GPU-Z)
@ when i let the GPU to full load the game to its maximum.. the power draw max was 109 watt (GPU-Z)
Q: is this because the GPU does not have enough power supplied by the PSU? (i read that this card TDP was 120watt)
2. i play PUBG lite (PC version) on Ultra around 4-5 hours usually. on ultra setting the GPU only load around 20-35% and Temperature around 45-50C, GPU clock stuck at 1200mhz
@The Game runs fine even at only 1200mhz and 20-35% of GPU usage
Q: again is this because my PSU can give enough power to my GPU?

That's not how power supplies work. The graphics card does not know the capacity of the PSU and can't throttle itself if the PSU isn't powerful enough.

The max draw of your GPU is 109W because that's all the power your graphics card needs.

It's not a powerful graphics card. It doesn't need that much power.

If the PSU was too tasked, it would shut down. That's what good PSUs do.

If the voltages dropped out of spec and the PSU did not shut off, you would get a BSOD.

You DO NOT need a 650W power supply.

YOU ARE FINE.

 

[Satan-IR]

If that is who I think it is, THE jonnyguru, the Oklahoma Wolf himself, well, his word on PSUs is definitive to me and should be to the OP for that matter.

I actually didn't notice that 6 to mention that to the OP. As said above, no need for a 650W unit. The 550W I said was with head room for possible future GPU upgrade.

 

[jonnyguru]

If that is who I think it is, THE jonnyguru, the Oklahoma Wolf himself, well, his word on PSUs is definitive to me and should be to the OP for that matter.

I actually didn't notice that 6 to mention that to the OP. As said above, no need for a 650W unit. The 550W I said was with head room for possible future GPU upgrade.

JonnyGURU and Oklahoma Wolf are two different people. ;-)

I started the site, we both used to write for it.

 

[Satan-IR]

JonnyGURU and Oklahoma Wolf are two different people. ;-)

I started the site, we both used to write for it.

Sorry I got that wrong, I was always under the impression they're the same. Thanks for clarifying that : )

 

[Darkbreeze]

JonnyGURU and Oklahoma Wolf are two different people. ;-)

I started the site, we both used to write for it.

I think we're going to have to go through this a few times, before even the regulars get used to the idea. LOL.

(To be clear, not that you are not OW, just that you ARE JG.)

I think this might be the first time I've encountered anybody though who thought you and OW were the same person.

 

[jonnyguru]

I think we're going to have to go through this a few times, before even the regulars get used to the idea. LOL.

(To be clear, not that you are not OW, just that you ARE JG.)

I think this might be the first time I've encountered anybody though who thought you and OW were the same person.

At least he knows who Oklahoma Wolf is! Most people think I wrote all the reviews. I'm like, "It's not like Tom Pabst writes all of the reviews for Tom's Hardware!" Jeez! ;-)

 

[Darkbreeze]

I really like Pink Floyd. He's a very nice guy.

 

[Existz]

Just to clarify the VS450 is a new unit and not from the 7-year old PC right?

It is an OK budget PSU. Not the best but better than some of the junk that people connect to their PC components.

You can use it for now but don't push it close to the limits of its capacity and it would be OK. Replace it with a better quality 550W when you can. As said above I think it's good to have some head room when it comes to PSUs as they lose some of their juice after a few years.

Maximum GPU does in terms of performance and power draw are determined by how hard it is working. That is also a function of what resolution and graphical settings the user sets and that differs in different games. You lower some setting and GPU works less and thus uses less power. You cap the fps and it works at a certain level and uses power at a certain level. When you remove the cap it has to work harder to give more frames and it uses more power.

So it's not necessarily because the PSU can not feed it. Also Does your GPU load reach near 100% use when gaming? Because if your CPU bottlenecks it a bit and it can't get near 100% load it won't use near 100% TDP.

That's not how power supplies work. The graphics card does not know the capacity of the PSU and can't throttle itself if the PSU isn't powerful enough.

The max draw of your GPU is 109W because that's all the power your graphics card needs.

It's not a powerful graphics card. It doesn't need that much power.

If the PSU was too tasked, it would shut down. That's what good PSUs do.

If the voltages dropped out of spec and the PSU did not shut off, you would get a BSOD.

You DO NOT need a 650W power supply.

YOU ARE FINE.

Thank you for your answer,,, because of all the answer in here. i look around and found this
Corsair CX550 deal for 57$ and 1year extended warranty from local distributor (5years standard+1year) total of 6 year.
is this PSU Okay? i mean for long use.. i dont want to upgrade anymore for at least another 5 years.

 

[Satan-IR]

I think we're going to have to go through this a few times, before even the regulars get used to the idea. LOL.

(To be clear, not that you are not OW, just that you ARE JG.)

I think this might be the first time I've encountered anybody though who thought you and OW were the same person.

At least he knows who Oklahoma Wolf is! Most people think I wrote all the reviews. I'm like, "It's not like Tom Pabst writes all of the reviews for Tom's Hardware!" Jeez! ;-)

I think maybe some of the reviews I read were written by him (OW) and that was kind of imprinted as an unconscious deduction that OW is JG. Now that I think of it the diction and the humor were not really the same in all of them and there were hints of different penmanship. But I guess hindsight is always 20-20.

Anyway I was always more interested in the content as valid and honest information that can be trusted and not that much in the initials of who wrote them 😉

I really like Pink Floyd. He's a very nice guy.

I already said I was sorry, jeez lol

 

[Darkbreeze]

Fair enough. It's all good fun though.