News Don't Buy a Graphics Card for More than $500 Right Now

[Eximo]

They could always bring back the 5. 4085 vs 4080. Or RTS instead of RTX, or slap Super or Titanium on it.

3080 12GB vs 3080 10GB never sat right with me. Often people would be buying more expensive 3080 10GB because the 3080 12GB listings weren't obvious.

 

[JarredWaltonGPU]

I have little doubt that this was originally slated to be a 4070 class card but the problem is it performed too good to be sold at a 4070 price point and not affect the perceived value of the price/performance of the 4080 and would hurt the sales numbers for the 80 series card. So easy solution call the card a 12g 4080 and charge a higher price for it which also allows the opportunity to raise the price of the 16g 4080 to a higher than originally anticipated price point.

So call the cards:
RTX 4090 (24GB)
RTX 4080 Ti (16GB)
RTX 4080 (12GB)

Or bring back the (stupid) Super qualifier and call the middle card the RTX 4080 Super. I don't care. Just do something more than the pure model name plus VRAM, please.

Nvidia should not be calling two graphics cards with different different PCBs, different GPUs, different core counts, different RAM configurations, etc. the same thing at launch. (Yeah, I know about things like GTX 1660 Super using a TU106, but that's not a launch card, that's a "we have a bunch of extra GPUs that won't work as an RTX card" situation. Also, GTX 1660 Super using TU106 still has mostly the same basic specs as the TU116 variant.)

 

[panzermeister74]

The RTX 4000 series GPUs...yeah I can't wait to not be able to get my hands on one. Probably. I've been able to finally land myself a 3070 a couple months ago for close to it's actual MSRP but by the time I got it, we were already hearing about the 4000 series cards coming. Not really excited for the launch of the RTX 4000 GPUs incoming, because for some reason I find it hard to shake the feeling its going to be a s***show with beating out buying one due to miners and scalpers immediately buying them out. We'll see. I guess.

 

[Tac 25]

Why not just call everything by the GPU, cores, clocks, RAM, and bandwidth instead? I mean, I could get behind that:
GeForce RTX AD102 9728 2.5GHz 16GB 736GBps vs. GeForce RTX AD103 7680 2.6GHz 12GB 504GBps 🤣

those names would be hard for buyers to remember. hehe

on a slightly serious question. Any chance Nvidia would release an RTX 4030 or RTX 4050 series of gpu? Asking because those are probably the cheaper versions that moderate income people like me can afford.

 

[Eximo]

They usually make such a chip eventually. But it will probably be closer to a year before that is available. If you have a 3050 now though, probably fine to stick with that through the 40 series and wait for AMD/Intel/Nvidia's next generation cards.

 

[Tac 25]

@Eximo

I'm content with the performance of the RTX 3050, no complaints.

but there's a reason why I want a second RTX gpu to be present here in the house. Backup pc, 2600K + 1050ti could not run Dead or Alive VI at the max in-game resolution of 3180 x 2160... my gaming pc 10600k + 3050 could do it easily with no lag using the same monitor. I'm suspecting it's a GPU limitation and not the cpu. So if I could obtain a second RTX, then will transfer the 3050 to the backup pc.

Spoiler

it's purely eye candy thing though.. so it's pretty much optional. Will only obtain a second RTX if I find one cheap enough.

 

[Eximo]

Now might be a good time, just start low balling on ebay. So many people are dumping 3050 and 3060 to get faster cards at reasonable prices.

 

[JarredWaltonGPU]

those names would be hard for buyers to remember. hehe

on a slightly serious question. Any chance Nvidia would release an RTX 4030 or RTX 4050 series of gpu? Asking because those are probably the cheaper versions that moderate income people like me can afford.

There will almost surely be an RTX 4050, but probably not until late next year. An RTX 4030 seems unlikely. The xx30 cards have usually been underpowered and not worth buying IMO. GT 1030 was bad, GT 730 was bad, GTX 1630 is bad. If we get an RTX xx30 card, it will probably be an RTX 5030 that will perform about the same as the current RTX 2060. ¯\(ツ)/¯

 

[Tac 25]

@JarredWaltonGPU

the 730 is not really worth paying for, but the the GT 1030 was my go to card during the hell of the gpu crisis.. where everything else cost a ton of money or you have to donate a kidney to buy (lol). I'm not exaggerating, an RTX 2060 reached almost 50,000 pesos here, and a donor kidney is worth 100,000 pesos. The GT 1030 gave 720p without lag on several games during that difficult time, and that was enough for me. Anyway, if a 4050 is still that far away.. the RTX I would probably buy next is the 3060, just have to hope the price drops a bit more.

 

[Eximo]

I use a passively cooled GT1030 in my HTPC, no complaints. Kind of waiting for the first HDMI 2.1 capable cheap GPU. Leaning towards picking up an A380 just to see how it goes.

 

[Tac 25]

what's an A380? first time I heard of that.

 

[BILL1957]

@JarredWaltonGPU

the 730 is not really worth paying for, but the the GT 1030 was my go to card during the hell of the gpu crisis.. where everything else cost a ton of money or you have to donate a kidney to buy (lol) I'm not exaggerating, an RTX 2060 reached almost 50,000 pesos here, and a donor kidney is worth 100,000 pesos. The GT 1030 gave 720p without lag on several games during that difficult time, and that was enough for me. Anyway, if a 4050 is still that far away.. the RTX I would probably buy next is the 3060, just have to hope the price drops a bit more.

Countries like this is where I think a lot of the lower level leftover 30 series cards will actually end up to be sold within the next year or so.
There is always a market somewhere that the older lower level series cards will actually still be considered the way to go maybe not as much by choice but financial necessity.

 

[Tac 25]

from my memories, that was 2019-2020, where the only thing you can find in stores here are 730, 1030, and the rare overpriced RTX gpu's. Currently though, things have gone back to normal, there are now plentiful stocks of 16 series, 20 series, 30 series, and AMD 6600 cards in stores at reasonable prices.

 

[JarredWaltonGPU]

what's an A380? first time I heard of that.

Intel Arc A380: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-arc-a380-review

 

[DRagor]

Well, here we go. On our local equivalent of ebay somebody posted today offers to sell two mined 3090. Starting bid - 1$. Have a feeling we will see more of it coming. So yeah, no reason to buy GPU for 500$.

 

[Phaaze88]

Well, here we go. On our local equivalent of ebay somebody posted today offers to sell two mined 3090. Starting bid - 1$. Have a feeling we will see more of it coming. So yeah, no reason to buy GPU for 500$.

Oh, that is so annoying. If they're not satisfied by the offers, they'll continue to remove and post it back up.
Just tell everyone what you really want for it from the beginning, why don't you?

 

[nitrium]

By the way: in gaming at 4K resolution, that 30% more performance increase you reference may mean the difference between nailing a solid 60FPS and not, or running full quality settings or not, or successfully upgrading to 4K from 1440p or not, and for a lot of people out there that is important. Or in the case of an RTX 3080, will be 100% faster (double the FPS) than your RTX 2060.

When you're running DLSS (which most people are doing at 4K to get consistent 60 fps on even the high end GPUs), do you ever just consider running the game at a lower base resolution on a cheaper GPU? It's already being fudged, and in all honesty you probably won't care if the base game is any good. I guess I'm not that picky (or maybe I'm blind!), but I have never been able to tell the difference between "Very High" and "Ultra" settings and I doubt I would be able to tell if I'm running an upscaled QHD or true 4k (unless the monitors/GPus upscaling is rubbish).

 

[AndrewJacksonZA]

but I have never been able to tell the difference between "Very High" and "Ultra" settings

I just upgraded from my RX470 4GB to an RX 6800 XT, and in GTAV, at least, going from 1080p very high to 4K Ultra with EVERYTHING set to maximum, it's like a different world. <3

Edit: You seem to have been around for a while, you might understand this. Going from a 7/8 year old cheapest available 1080p 24" panel to a rather high quality (according to the reviews) 43" 4K 2022-model Samsung screen with Freesync Premium Pro , its the same feeling of awe and wonder when we went from green and black Hercules to 4-colour CGA. Its literally like a new world for me.