Don't know what's eating up my space?

[paobreezy]

I have an 840 pro 128gb ssd which I put windows 8 on and program files. I have origin and steam on the ssd and I download the games to my hdd which is a 2tb. It seems everytime I download a game I seem to be losing space on my ssd and it seems to be eating about 1-2gb per game I download. Is this normal? BTW I have an asus p9x79 pro with a 3930k and gtx titan. I have the ssd connected on the gray sata 6 port and the hdd on the gray sata port also but the one that says ssd caching. Any help would be much appreciated. It's just the 128gb ssd seems so limited and I want to conserve as much space as possible.

 

[ur6beersaway]

that sounds really technical.. would it be better if i just put the clients onto my ssd?

This is for hibernation, which is a feature you don't really need. Turning it off is really easy, and it will give you back the 12.7 GB it's currently taking.

Yes. Disable Hibernate on SSD is a must. I recommend you look up first time SSD user tips. I don't have a specific link but I learned about Disabling Hibernate due to the articles. SSD isn't quite like a HDD so you gotta disable some things that come enabled.

Be careful with disabling hiberfil.sys in windows-8. A word to the wise. You can safely reduce the size.

READ:http://www.nextofwindows.com/hiberfil-sys-in-windows-8-and-why-you-shouldnt-disable-hibernation-to-delete-it/

 

[paobreezy]

uh oh.. can i activate it again with samsung magician?

 

[ur6beersaway]

Command prompt as administrator

powercfg /h on

enter

It is useless in windows-7, but win-8 needs it.

 

[paobreezy]

how do i run the command prompt in windows 8?

 

[ur6beersaway]

To start the command prompt in Windows-8, press the key combination [Win-Logo]+[R], then simply type the command cmd and confirm that with [ENTER] or by pressing the button [OK]

 

[paobreezy]

would it be possible to activate it through samsung magician. it has the option to activate/deactivate hibernation on there?

 

[ur6beersaway]

Activate it there. Windows-8 needs it.

 

[P1nnacle]

Activate it there. Windows-8 needs it.

I disagree, I have 3 Windows 8 Machines and Hibernation is disabled on all of them. Yes, maybe my boot time has increased slightly, but with a SSD holding the main Windows files, it's nothing. I get 8 sec boots with my laptop and 12 sec boots with my desktop. I would argue that his SSD space is more valuable than the 2-4 seconds he loses on boot time.

 

[paobreezy]

i actually restarted windows 8 with hibernation deactivated and I didn't really notice a difference in boot time but I turned it on just to be safe. But the problem of my ssd taking up space is still there when I download games. I moved all of my clients to the hdd but my ssd is still eating up space.

 

[P1nnacle]

i actually restarted windows 8 with hibernation deactivated and I didn't really notice a difference in boot time but I turned it on just to be safe. But the problem of my ssd taking up space is still there when I download games. I moved all of my clients to the hdd but my ssd is still eating up space.

My guess is that it is your page file. How much ram do you have?

 

[paobreezy]

16gb of ram. Do i need my page file?

 

[paobreezy]

16gb of ram. Do i need my page file?

 

[P1nnacle]

16gb of ram. Do i need my page file?

While a page file is helpful, you probably don't need one with 16 GB of ram. Pagefiles change often and can wear down your SSD much faster than other program files.
Try this and see if it solves the problem.

-Open the Start Menu and go to Control Panel
-Click on the System icon
-Select the Advanced tab
-Under Performance, click Settings
-Go to Advanced
-Under Virtual Memory, click Change
-Select No Paging File and then click Set
-Click OK in all the menus
-Restart

Alternatively, you could remove the page file from the SSD and open a new one on your HDD

 

[paobreezy]

I'm at work right now so I'll get back to you when I come back.. Thanks everyone for all the help and I know how helping a noob can be frustrating

 

[paobreezy]

I'm at work right now so I'll get back to you when I come back.. Thanks everyone for all the help and I know how helping a noob can be frustrating

 

[envy14tpe]

I would not suggest disabling Pagefile. Essentially it is like RAM on your SSD. Keep it. If you have issues with room I'd look into moving programs/games. My pagefile is around 12GB and that's ok. It is a debatable topic whether or not to remove it, but most suggest keeping it. If you remove it you might have system issues once your RAM can't handle things. Keep the pagefile.

 

[egilbe]

I would not suggest disabling Pagefile. Essentially it is like RAM on your SSD. Keep it. If you have issues with room I'd look into moving programs/games. My pagefile is around 12GB and that's ok. It is a debatable topic whether or not to remove it, but most suggest keeping it. If you remove it you might have system issues once your RAM can't handle things. Keep the pagefile.

You can move your pagefile to a different disc. SSD's have a limited number of read/writes and a pagefile shortens the life of an SSD by quite a bit.

 

[envy14tpe]

I would not suggest disabling Pagefile. Essentially it is like RAM on your SSD. Keep it. If you have issues with room I'd look into moving programs/games. My pagefile is around 12GB and that's ok. It is a debatable topic whether or not to remove it, but most suggest keeping it. If you remove it you might have system issues once your RAM can't handle things. Keep the pagefile.

You can move your pagefile to a different disc. SSD's have a limited number of read/writes and a pagefile shortens the life of an SSD by quite a bit.

By the time the read/writes of pagefile takes its toll it'll be in 5+ years. By then I'm sure I'll have something new. Also, I believe since OS and all programs are on the SSD (maybe minus some games) it's better to have pagefile on SSD.

 

[P1nnacle]

I would not suggest disabling Pagefile. Essentially it is like RAM on your SSD. Keep it. If you have issues with room I'd look into moving programs/games. My pagefile is around 12GB and that's ok. It is a debatable topic whether or not to remove it, but most suggest keeping it. If you remove it you might have system issues once your RAM can't handle things. Keep the pagefile.

You can move your pagefile to a different disc. SSD's have a limited number of read/writes and a pagefile shortens the life of an SSD by quite a bit.

By the time the read/writes of pagefile takes its toll it'll be in 5+ years. By then I'm sure I'll have something new. Also, I believe since OS and all programs are on the SSD (maybe minus some games) it's better to have pagefile on SSD.

The pagefile consists of commonly used data that the computer thinks it might need for a currently running program. On a HDD this speeds up the seek time for the data because it's set in the same sector on the drive and is easier to access on a physically spinning disc. Putting it on an SSD is a pointless measure since there is no physically moving component to read from, SSD read speeds are the same regardless of what state the SSD is currently running in. So it's better to move the pagefile to a HDD because that's where it would be most beneficial to the user. With 16 GB of RAM, it is rather debatable as to whether or not you actually need a pagefile since chances are you won't exceed your physical memory limit unless you're running a program that can utilize all your RAM (such as Adobe After Effects). It was a bad idea back when we were only running around 4GB max in a system. As far as read writes taking their toll, I'd rather play it safe than sorry.

 

[D0MINI0N]

I have an 840 pro 128gb ssd which I put windows 8 on and program files. I have origin and steam on the ssd and I download the games to my hdd which is a 2tb. It seems everytime I download a game I seem to be losing space on my ssd and it seems to be eating about 1-2gb per game I download. Is this normal? BTW I have an asus p9x79 pro with a 3930k and gtx titan. I have the ssd connected on the gray sata 6 port and the hdd on the gray sata port also but the one that says ssd caching. Any help would be much appreciated. It's just the 128gb ssd seems so limited and I want to conserve as much space as possible.

I don't know if someone's mentioned it already but in Vista and Windows 7 I know that the winsxs file is a real pain in the behind when it comes to taking space up. It progressively gets larger and larger as you update your OS more. I'm pretty sure this file still exists in windows 8 and it cannot be removed. On my version of vista 64, the file itself takes up half of my primary hard drive i..e. 20GB. You might want to check this file in you windows folder yourself to se if it's causing the problems. You may be happy to know that according to a few forum posts I read around this subject it is much easier to manage this file in Windows 8 than it is in other OS versions.

 

[P1nnacle]

I have an 840 pro 128gb ssd which I put windows 8 on and program files. I have origin and steam on the ssd and I download the games to my hdd which is a 2tb. It seems everytime I download a game I seem to be losing space on my ssd and it seems to be eating about 1-2gb per game I download. Is this normal? BTW I have an asus p9x79 pro with a 3930k and gtx titan. I have the ssd connected on the gray sata 6 port and the hdd on the gray sata port also but the one that says ssd caching. Any help would be much appreciated. It's just the 128gb ssd seems so limited and I want to conserve as much space as possible.

I don't know if someone's mentioned it already but in Vista and Windows 7 I know that the winsxs file is a real pain in the behind when it comes to taking space up. It progressively gets larger and larger as you update your OS more. I'm pretty sure this file still exists in windows 8 and it cannot be removed. On my version of vista 64, the file itself takes up half of my primary hard drive i..e. 20GB. You might want to check this file in you windows folder yourself to se if it's causing the problems. You may be happy to know that according to a few forum posts I read around this subject it is much easier to manage this file in Windows 8 than it is in other OS versions.

If that were the case, I would expect more people to have this problem, I have Windows 8 on a SSD and have no problems with the space decreasing for no reason.

 

[envy14tpe]

I would not suggest disabling Pagefile. Essentially it is like RAM on your SSD. Keep it. If you have issues with room I'd look into moving programs/games. My pagefile is around 12GB and that's ok. It is a debatable topic whether or not to remove it, but most suggest keeping it. If you remove it you might have system issues once your RAM can't handle things. Keep the pagefile.

You can move your pagefile to a different disc. SSD's have a limited number of read/writes and a pagefile shortens the life of an SSD by quite a bit.

By the time the read/writes of pagefile takes its toll it'll be in 5+ years. By then I'm sure I'll have something new. Also, I believe since OS and all programs are on the SSD (maybe minus some games) it's better to have pagefile on SSD.

The pagefile consists of commonly used data that the computer thinks it might need for a currently running program. On a HDD this speeds up the seek time for the data because it's set in the same sector on the drive and is easier to access on a physically spinning disc. Putting it on an SSD is a pointless measure since there is no physically moving component to read from, SSD read speeds are the same regardless of what state the SSD is currently running in. So it's better to move the pagefile to a HDD because that's where it would be most beneficial to the user. With 16 GB of RAM, it is rather debatable as to whether or not you actually need a pagefile since chances are you won't exceed your physical memory limit unless you're running a program that can utilize all your RAM (such as Adobe After Effects). It was a bad idea back when we were only running around 4GB max in a system. As far as read writes taking their toll, I'd rather play it safe than sorry.

So, if you want to move pagefile from SSD to HDD do you have to disable it first then move it?

I found some info on tomsguide.com Do you need to keep 800MB pagefile on C? This is what it advised:

Moving the Pagefile calls for some digging around in the Control Panel (and will require admin privileges). Go to Control Panel-> System-> Advanced System Settings-> Advanced-> Performance-> Settings-> Advanced-> Virtual Memory-> Change. This will bring up a window listing all your partitions and any pagefiles located therein. You'll want to move the majority of your pagefile space to another drive partition, but will need to keep a minimum of 800MB pagefile on C:\ if you care about crash memory dumps. Select C:\ and then either set it to Custom Size 800MB (initial and maximum size) or no paging file. Click "set" to save and then go to the drive you want to allocate your pagefile to (In my case, K:\) and either set the pagefile size to "System Managed Size" or "Custom Size" (use the recommended setting that the window provides or check out the copious amounts of online lit for a custom setting). Save the settings, and then restart to have these changes take effect.

 

[D0MINI0N]

I have an 840 pro 128gb ssd which I put windows 8 on and program files. I have origin and steam on the ssd and I download the games to my hdd which is a 2tb. It seems everytime I download a game I seem to be losing space on my ssd and it seems to be eating about 1-2gb per game I download. Is this normal? BTW I have an asus p9x79 pro with a 3930k and gtx titan. I have the ssd connected on the gray sata 6 port and the hdd on the gray sata port also but the one that says ssd caching. Any help would be much appreciated. It's just the 128gb ssd seems so limited and I want to conserve as much space as possible.

I don't know if someone's mentioned it already but in Vista and Windows 7 I know that the winsxs file is a real pain in the behind when it comes to taking space up. It progressively gets larger and larger as you update your OS more. I'm pretty sure this file still exists in windows 8 and it cannot be removed. On my version of vista 64, the file itself takes up half of my primary hard drive i..e. 20GB. You might want to check this file in you windows folder yourself to se if it's causing the problems. You may be happy to know that according to a few forum posts I read around this subject it is much easier to manage this file in Windows 8 than it is in other OS versions.

If that were the case, I would expect more people to have this problem, I have Windows 8 on a SSD and have no problems with the space decreasing for no reason.

It is a large problem, but only rears it's head over time from what I gather with each incremental windows update, which is why you'll find plenty of people complaining about it for earlier OS's. As the OP didn't detail how long ago he installed his OS I thought it was worth looking at.

 

[P1nnacle]

I would not suggest disabling Pagefile. Essentially it is like RAM on your SSD. Keep it. If you have issues with room I'd look into moving programs/games. My pagefile is around 12GB and that's ok. It is a debatable topic whether or not to remove it, but most suggest keeping it. If you remove it you might have system issues once your RAM can't handle things. Keep the pagefile.

You can move your pagefile to a different disc. SSD's have a limited number of read/writes and a pagefile shortens the life of an SSD by quite a bit.

By the time the read/writes of pagefile takes its toll it'll be in 5+ years. By then I'm sure I'll have something new. Also, I believe since OS and all programs are on the SSD (maybe minus some games) it's better to have pagefile on SSD.

The pagefile consists of commonly used data that the computer thinks it might need for a currently running program. On a HDD this speeds up the seek time for the data because it's set in the same sector on the drive and is easier to access on a physically spinning disc. Putting it on an SSD is a pointless measure since there is no physically moving component to read from, SSD read speeds are the same regardless of what state the SSD is currently running in. So it's better to move the pagefile to a HDD because that's where it would be most beneficial to the user. With 16 GB of RAM, it is rather debatable as to whether or not you actually need a pagefile since chances are you won't exceed your physical memory limit unless you're running a program that can utilize all your RAM (such as Adobe After Effects). It was a bad idea back when we were only running around 4GB max in a system. As far as read writes taking their toll, I'd rather play it safe than sorry.

So, if you want to move pagefile from SSD to HDD do you have to disable it first then move it?

I found some info on tomsguide.com Do you need to keep 800MB pagefile on C? This is what it advised:

Moving the Pagefile calls for some digging around in the Control Panel (and will require admin privileges). Go to Control Panel-> System-> Advanced System Settings-> Advanced-> Performance-> Settings-> Advanced-> Virtual Memory-> Change. This will bring up a window listing all your partitions and any pagefiles located therein. You'll want to move the majority of your pagefile space to another drive partition, but will need to keep a minimum of 800MB pagefile on C:\ if you care about crash memory dumps. Select C:\ and then either set it to Custom Size 800MB (initial and maximum size) or no paging file. Click "set" to save and then go to the drive you want to allocate your pagefile to (In my case, K:\) and either set the pagefile size to "System Managed Size" or "Custom Size" (use the recommended setting that the window provides or check out the copious amounts of online lit for a custom setting). Save the settings, and then restart to have these changes take effect.

Like they say, they recommend keeping an 800 MB pagefile for your crash reports. I almost never read them when I have a computer problem, it all comes down as to whether or not you want to be able to. If you don't care, just disable your SSD's pagefile because it's pointless to have two running. I'm not entirely sure that having a pagefile on another drive won't hold your crash reports anyway.