Don't know what's wrong with my PC

[NCjz1]

Computer Specs:

CPU: Intel Core i5 4460 @ 3.20GHz, Haswell 22nm Technology

Graphics: Graphics SAMSUNG (1920x1080@60Hz), Intel HD Graphics 4600 (MSI)

Storage: 111GB Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120GB (SSD)

Optical Drives: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224FB

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 (MS-7817) (SOCKET 0)

RAM: 8.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 800MHz (11-11-11-28)

Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit

Basically my computer started freezing ever since i updated league of legends one day it just froze as soon as i entered the game. There artifacts and it makes a loud buzzing sound. The fans are really noisy pretty much as soon as i turn on the PC. Now it freezes for basic tasks but much more easily on HD videos etc. My CPU also skyrockets to 100% for really basic tasks and I'm not sure why. If i buy a graphics card will this solve the problem? Or is it a bigger issue than just that now.

 

[Insomniac Jack]

It should help. Your CPU seems to be having trouble running the game and processing the graphics which is giving you the 100% usage. If LOL is the only thing you play you could easily get by with a GTX 1050 or GTX 1050Ti The other issue is that Integrated graphics also uses your RAM as video memory which is probably causing some the issues as well. A dedicated video card has it's on VRAM so that'll remove that constraint as well.

 

[NCjz1]

It should help. Your CPU seems to be having trouble running the game and processing the graphics which is giving you the 100% usage. If LOL is the only thing you play you could easily get by with a GTX 1050 or GTX 1050Ti The other issue is that Integrated graphics also uses your RAM as video memory which is probably causing some the issues as well. A dedicated video card has it's on VRAM so that'll remove that constraint as well.

Thanks for your help, appreciate it. I just thought having 8GB RAM would be enough and the fact that its been working all the way up until now has me confused.

 

[adiec]

you need to provide a better list of your specs . make and model of cpu, ram, motherboard, psu

 

[madmatt30]

Its an i5 4460 at a guess ??

Cpu usage 100% at basic tasks & freezing /artifacting under GPU load would point me to temperature issues personally.
If its throttling down due to being too hot it raises the shown CPU usage .

Check your temps under load .

 

[adiec]

Its an i5 4460 at a guess ??

Cpu usage 100% at basic tasks & freezing /artifacting under GPU load would point me to temperature issues personally.
If its throttling down due to being too hot it raises the shown CPU usage .

Check your temps under load .

i thought it was an i3 .. assumed it was a dual core because of the 7.14ghz rating crap .

 

[madmatt30]

Its an i5 4460 at a guess ??

Cpu usage 100% at basic tasks & freezing /artifacting under GPU load would point me to temperature issues personally.
If its throttling down due to being too hot it raises the shown CPU usage .

Check your temps under load .

i thought it was an i3 .. assumed it was a dual core because of the 7.14ghz rating crap .

Cant think of an i3 haswell with a 3.2ghz base clock??

Theres the pentium g3258 but I dont think that has hd4600 igp.

As you said though we need more specs really.

 

[Insomniac Jack]

Yeah I agree he needs to check his temps with MSI afterburner or another program. I didn't pick up the fact that the game was running fine before but is now having issues. My guess is the PC needs a good cleaning.

 

[adiec]

Its an i5 4460 at a guess ??

Cpu usage 100% at basic tasks & freezing /artifacting under GPU load would point me to temperature issues personally.
If its throttling down due to being too hot it raises the shown CPU usage .

Check your temps under load .

i thought it was an i3 .. assumed it was a dual core because of the 7.14ghz rating crap .

Cant think of an i3 haswell with a 3.2ghz base clock??

Theres the pentium g3258 but I dont think that has hd4600 igp.

As you said though we need more specs really.

i was just thinking more about the 7.14ghz rating.. usually the rating is based upon doubling the core clock speed.. or at least i thought 😛 plus the OP seems like this was a budget decision build . i base my assumption on nothing but whispers in the wind though haha would not be the first time i have been wrong .. might be the first time i'd have to admit it though 😛

 

[NCjz1]

Its an i5 4460 at a guess ??

Cpu usage 100% at basic tasks & freezing /artifacting under GPU load would point me to temperature issues personally.
If its throttling down due to being too hot it raises the shown CPU usage .

Check your temps under load .

Sorry for the really delayed response but yeah it might be that because the fans have become really noisy recently and you are correct that its an intel i5 4460.

 

[NCjz1]

Yeah I agree he needs to check his temps with MSI afterburner or another program. I didn't pick up the fact that the game was running fine before but is now having issues. My guess is the PC needs a good cleaning.

Sorry for the late reponse I'll do this now and take a look and report back

 

[madmatt30]

Hwifo is the best for checking clocks & temps

https://www.hwinfo.com

Run it & select the sensors only option.

 

[NCjz1]

I checked the temps and they seem perfectly fine on msi afterburner. They're all around 40 although my fans appear quite loud. Here's some more specs -

CPU: Intel Core i5 4460 @ 3.20GHz, Haswell 22nm Technology

Graphics: Graphics SAMSUNG (1920x1080@60Hz), Intel HD Graphics 4600 (MSI)

Storage: 111GB Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120GB (SSD)

Optical Drives: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224FB

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 (MS-7817) (SOCKET 0)

RAM: 8.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 800MHz (11-11-11-28)

Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit

 

[madmatt30]

Don't rely on afterburner for CPU temps , use hwinfo as I posted above.

You also need to put an artificial heavy load on the CPU while the sensors are onscreen.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/intelburntest.html

Unzip to desktop , run it & press the start button.

 

[NCjz1]

Hwifo is the best for checking clocks & temps

https://www.hwinfo.com

Run it & select the sensors only option.

What exactly am i looking for on this one other than temps? They're 41, 43, 42 & 40 for the 4 cores

 

[NCjz1]

Don't rely on afterburner for CPU temps , use hwinfo as I posted above.

You also need to put an artificial heavy load on the CPU while the sensors are onscreen.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/intelburntest.html

Unzip to desktop , run it & press the start button.

Ok i'll run this aswell

 

[NCjz1]

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[NCjz1]

Don't rely on afterburner for CPU temps , use hwinfo as I posted above.

You also need to put an artificial heavy load on the CPU while the sensors are onscreen.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/intelburntest.html

Unzip to desktop , run it & press the start button.

I tested it on standard and core max temp it got to was like 70degrees and it said my CPU is stable. Am i looking for anything else on the hwinfo app, i'm surprised my pc didn't freeze tbh. Also btw I did a graphics stress test with geek smth and used furmark and on each of these my computer freezes each time as soon as they start the program starts, then i have to restart with power button or sometimes it'll restart on its own.

 

[madmatt30]

http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/

Install , run a 720p windowed test.

Check temps again while its running.

 

[NCjz1]

http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/

Install , run a 720p windowed test.

Check temps again while its running.

Done this, as soon as i open it my whole PC freezes within 3 seconds of seeing the red hole thingy. Then I have to restart using power button. Don't have time to check temps cuz it freezes quick. Happened 3 times in a row.

 

[madmatt30]

Then plainly its igp related (which we did already know sort of).
CPU temps are fine under a general 100% load then (70c is what I'd expect with a stock cooler)

Its possible doe the igp to fail & the chip remain running for CPU related tasks .
Its something I've only seen however twice in 6 or 7 years.
As you say , not being able to see temps under any kind of load is an issue.
The other issue is its possible to be ram related .

Leave with me mate , I'll try & have a think about a few more tests to run.

In the meantime download cpu-z

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

Install, run
Open the SPD tab
Look at the jedec tables
What voltage b does it show (bottom row)/for column jedec with frequency at 800mhz?

In hwinfo what is it showing for dram voltage ??

 

[adiec]

Then plainly its igp related (which we did already know sort of).
CPU temps are fine under a general 100% load then (70c is what I'd expect with a stock cooler)

Its possible doe the igp to fail & the chip remain running for CPU related tasks .
Its something I've only seen however twice in 6 or 7 years.
As you say , not being able to see temps under any kind of load is an issue.
The other issue is its possible to be ram related .

Leave with me mate , I'll try & have a think about a few more tests to run.

In the meantime download cpu-z

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

Install, run
Open the SPD tab
Look at the jedec tables
What voltage b does it show (bottom row)/for column jedec with frequency at 800mhz?

In hwinfo what is it showing for dram voltage ??

well done btw on deducing which cpu the OP had i was wrong :O damn assumptions haha.

has the op tried to run in safe mode ? i haven't read the whole thread as i have just gotten in.
or been able to enter bios without freezing ?

 

[NCjz1]

Then plainly its igp related (which we did already know sort of).
CPU temps are fine under a general 100% load then (70c is what I'd expect with a stock cooler)

Its possible doe the igp to fail & the chip remain running for CPU related tasks .
Its something I've only seen however twice in 6 or 7 years.
As you say , not being able to see temps under any kind of load is an issue.
The other issue is its possible to be ram related .

Leave with me mate , I'll try & have a think about a few more tests to run.

In the meantime download cpu-z

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

Install, run
Open the SPD tab
Look at the jedec tables
What voltage b does it show (bottom row)/for column jedec with frequency at 800mhz?

In hwinfo what is it showing for dram voltage ??

I did a RAM stress test using most of my RAM and it didn't cause my pc to freeze, it said it was stable etc.. so i think it's highly unlikely to be RAM although i could check again maybe i've missed something.

 

[madmatt30]

Looks like he's fine at low speed 2d clocks on the igp .
As soon as it comes under stress & raises clock speed - whammo!!

 

[madmatt30]

NCjz1 - just check the voltages in cpu-z SPD tab for 800mhz mate against what it shows in hwinfo.

I've seen 1.35v ram running at 1.2v & working fine under normal use, passing 10 hour memtest benching , then failing when its hit with heavy stress for shared GPU memory usage.

Upping it to the 1.35v it was specced at , it then did everything absolutely fine including quicksync encoding & heavy 3d stuff.