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This concerns a program I downloaded to my desktop but didn't install;
Thunderbird - an email program by Mozilla. First, I was surprised it
downloaded to the desktop without asking where I wanted it. I was given two
options: Install or Remove. I chose Remove. The file went away but the
window remained open giving me an option at the bottom to Close. I closed it
and was surprised to find the icon on my desktop. I highlighted it and found
it contained slightly less than the size the program was reported to be;
exactly the size, however, if I roughed to a whole number.

Thinking I missed something about in the download instructions, I repeated
the process and decided to let the download complete again to the desktop. I
ended up with TWO icons. I deleted one and left the other. NETHER of these
two were "installed".

I just ran a search for "thunderbird" and found the desktop entry, a Recycle
bin entry, three Temporary Internet Files, three mozilla entries identified
simply as "mozilla (www.mozilla.org)" , one "texturizer (texturizer.net)"
and one "Windows\Prefetch" entry. All these entries appear to be preceded by
either a dot, a apostrophe, or pipe "|"... but not as long. I have no idea
what those little marks mean that precede everything.

I could use some comforting that I haven't screened anything up here as well
as some instructions for getting rid of the icon that's armed to begin the
setup routine. I've read more about the email program and don't think I want
to tackle it at this point. Outlook "ain't broke" yet so ... why fix it!
 
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Adjust your download options in Firefox!

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Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard 🙂

If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"John Gregory" <jaygreg90@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OT762De8EHA.3988@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> This concerns a program I downloaded to my desktop but didn't install;
> Thunderbird - an email program by Mozilla. First, I was surprised it
> downloaded to the desktop without asking where I wanted it. I was given
> two options: Install or Remove. I chose Remove. The file went away but the
> window remained open giving me an option at the bottom to Close. I closed
> it and was surprised to find the icon on my desktop. I highlighted it and
> found it contained slightly less than the size the program was reported to
> be; exactly the size, however, if I roughed to a whole number.
>
> Thinking I missed something about in the download instructions, I repeated
> the process and decided to let the download complete again to the desktop.
> I ended up with TWO icons. I deleted one and left the other. NETHER of
> these two were "installed".
>
> I just ran a search for "thunderbird" and found the desktop entry, a
> Recycle bin entry, three Temporary Internet Files, three mozilla entries
> identified simply as "mozilla (www.mozilla.org)" , one "texturizer
> (texturizer.net)" and one "Windows\Prefetch" entry. All these entries
> appear to be preceded by either a dot, a apostrophe, or pipe "|"... but
> not as long. I have no idea what those little marks mean that precede
> everything.
>
> I could use some comforting that I haven't screened anything up here as
> well as some instructions for getting rid of the icon that's armed to
> begin the setup routine. I've read more about the email program and don't
> think I want to tackle it at this point. Outlook "ain't broke" yet so ...
> why fix it!
>
 
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John Gregory wrote:
> This concerns a program I downloaded to my desktop but didn't install;
> Thunderbird - an email program by Mozilla. First, I was surprised it
> downloaded to the desktop without asking where I wanted it.

If you are using the Mozilla Firefox browser, that is its default
behaviour. You can change it by editing the preferences in "Edit -->
Preferences --> Downloads".

> I was given two
> options: Install or Remove. I chose Remove. The file went away but the
> window remained open giving me an option at the bottom to Close. I closed it
> and was surprised to find the icon on my desktop. I highlighted it and found
> it contained slightly less than the size the program was reported to be;
> exactly the size, however, if I roughed to a whole number.

I don't know about the installatoin behaviour, but the size issue is
merely a mathematical issue, since for example 2,048kb are exactly 2mb,
but also 2,050kb or 2,046 will report as 2.0mb in the Windows Explorer.

> Thinking I missed something about in the download instructions, I repeated
> the process and decided to let the download complete again to the desktop. I
> ended up with TWO icons. I deleted one and left the other. NETHER of these
> two were "installed".

Well, you downloaded two setup programs of the same application to your
dektop, so now there are these two files on the desktop.

> I just ran a search for "thunderbird" and found the desktop entry, a Recycle
> bin entry, three Temporary Internet Files, three mozilla entries identified
> simply as "mozilla (www.mozilla.org)" , one "texturizer (texturizer.net)"
> and one "Windows\Prefetch" entry. All these entries appear to be preceded by
> either a dot, a apostrophe, or pipe "|"... but not as long. I have no idea
> what those little marks mean that precede everything.

Files in the Temporary Internet Files usually have strange filenames. I
wouldn't worry about them. You seem to have visited the sites
mozilla.com and texturizer.net, which are both official and safe sites.

> I could use some comforting that I haven't screened anything up here as well
> as some instructions for getting rid of the icon that's armed to begin the
> setup routine.

Just right click the remaining icon on the desktop and choose delete, it
should then be deposited in the Recycle Bin (which you could then empty).

> I've read more about the email program and don't think I want
> to tackle it at this point. Outlook "ain't broke" yet so ... why fix it!

It depends on how you see "Outlook ain't broke". It surely works fine,
but it has lots of security issues, and Thunderbird is commonly
considered the more stable and safe choice.

HTH,
~Mik

--
"The geek shall inherit the earth."
-- Rainer Wolfcastle in "Undercover Nerd"
 
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>>It depends on how you see "Outlook ain't broke". It surely works fine,
but it has lots of security issues, and Thunderbird is commonly
considered the more stable and safe choice.<<

The security issue was the initial interest. Then the files system sounded
intriguing. But when I read somewhere it took someone two hours to set up
his email, I worried about the complexity and time of failing back to
Outlook if I didn't like what I found. How difficult would it be?


"Mario Berger" <no_damned_spam@nospam.no> wrote in message
news:crcgme$boi$1@online.de...
> John Gregory wrote:
>> This concerns a program I downloaded to my desktop but didn't install;
>> Thunderbird - an email program by Mozilla. First, I was surprised it
>> downloaded to the desktop without asking where I wanted it.
>
> If you are using the Mozilla Firefox browser, that is its default
> behaviour. You can change it by editing the preferences in "Edit -->
> Preferences --> Downloads".
>
>> I was given two options: Install or Remove. I chose Remove. The file went
>> away but the window remained open giving me an option at the bottom to
>> Close. I closed it and was surprised to find the icon on my desktop. I
>> highlighted it and found it contained slightly less than the size the
>> program was reported to be; exactly the size, however, if I roughed to a
>> whole number.
>
> I don't know about the installatoin behaviour, but the size issue is
> merely a mathematical issue, since for example 2,048kb are exactly 2mb,
> but also 2,050kb or 2,046 will report as 2.0mb in the Windows Explorer.
>
>> Thinking I missed something about in the download instructions, I
>> repeated the process and decided to let the download complete again to
>> the desktop. I ended up with TWO icons. I deleted one and left the other.
>> NETHER of these two were "installed".
>
> Well, you downloaded two setup programs of the same application to your
> dektop, so now there are these two files on the desktop.
>
>> I just ran a search for "thunderbird" and found the desktop entry, a
>> Recycle bin entry, three Temporary Internet Files, three mozilla entries
>> identified simply as "mozilla (www.mozilla.org)" , one "texturizer
>> (texturizer.net)" and one "Windows\Prefetch" entry. All these entries
>> appear to be preceded by either a dot, a apostrophe, or pipe "|"... but
>> not as long. I have no idea what those little marks mean that precede
>> everything.
>
> Files in the Temporary Internet Files usually have strange filenames. I
> wouldn't worry about them. You seem to have visited the sites mozilla.com
> and texturizer.net, which are both official and safe sites.
>
>> I could use some comforting that I haven't screened anything up here as
>> well as some instructions for getting rid of the icon that's armed to
>> begin the setup routine.
>
> Just right click the remaining icon on the desktop and choose delete, it
> should then be deposited in the Recycle Bin (which you could then empty).
>
>> I've read more about the email program and don't think I want to tackle
>> it at this point. Outlook "ain't broke" yet so ... why fix it!
>
> It depends on how you see "Outlook ain't broke". It surely works fine, but
> it has lots of security issues, and Thunderbird is commonly considered the
> more stable and safe choice.
>
> HTH,
> ~Mik
>
> --
> "The geek shall inherit the earth."
> -- Rainer Wolfcastle in "Undercover Nerd"
 
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John Gregory wrote:
> The security issue was the initial interest. Then the files system sounded
> intriguing. But when I read somewhere it took someone two hours to set up
> his email, I worried about the complexity and time of failing back to
> Outlook if I didn't like what I found. How difficult would it be?

If you know the server data of your email account (pop and smtp
servers), it really isn't hard. Most email services will provide a help
section in their webmail account telling you how to setup a mail program.

~Mik

--
"The geek shall inherit the earth."
-- Rainer Wolfcastle in "Undercover Nerd"
 
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Thanks Mario. Perhaps I should at least give it a try. After all... the
program is setting on my desktop already. 🙂

"Mario Berger" <no_damned_spam@nospam.no> wrote in message
news:cre3gc$qbl$2@online.de...
> John Gregory wrote:
>> The security issue was the initial interest. Then the files system
>> sounded intriguing. But when I read somewhere it took someone two hours
>> to set up his email, I worried about the complexity and time of failing
>> back to Outlook if I didn't like what I found. How difficult would it be?
>
> If you know the server data of your email account (pop and smtp servers),
> it really isn't hard. Most email services will provide a help section in
> their webmail account telling you how to setup a mail program.
>
> ~Mik
>
> --
> "The geek shall inherit the earth."
> -- Rainer Wolfcastle in "Undercover Nerd"