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More info?)
Thanks to all (Leythos, Paul, Tim, anybody else whose reply has not yet made
it to my news server) for the input! Maybe the PC-DL would e a safer
route -- never pays to rush in... Anyway, all the help and links is greatly
appreciated; I'll keep digging!
"Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:cg4kte$s7u$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Hi,
>
> 2CPU has a link to this review covering the new nocona 800MHz offering.
>
>
http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD04MjImdXJsX3BhZ2U9MQ
>
> - Tim
>
>
> "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
> news:nospam-2008040557250001@192.168.1.177...
> > In article <OsdVc.625$Yzm.237@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
"Tony
> > Gilchrist" <tony.NOSPAM.gilchrist@rogers.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi;
> >>
> >> I am building / upgrading a 2-proc. box, and I need some advice. I
like
> >> the
> >> asus line, and want to use it, but am not clear on which mobo I would
be
> >> best off with. I need two processors, and it should be reasonably
fast,
> >> but
> >> that's the only major criteria. I will use a seperate scsi card, so
> >> don't
> >> want the onboard scsi (or onboard anything extra, really). The system
> >> will
> >> be used for 3D animation and graphics dev.
> >>
> >> There seem to beseveral choices: (PCH-DL, PCH-DLW, PU-DL, maybe
others?)
> >>
> >>
http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=PCH-DL&langs=09
> >>
> >>
http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=PU-DL&langs=09
> >>
> >>
http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=PP-DLW&langs=09
> >>
> >> I am wading through the specs, but if anyone has advice or suggestions,
> >> they
> >> would be welcome.
> >>
> >> Thx!
> >
> > Take a look on forums.2cpu.com .
> >
> > There is mention of Xeon processors with FSB800. These could
> > possibly give more memory bandwidth. The two boards mentioned
> > are very recent (bleeding edge
🙂 so buying these would make
> > you an early adopter. (The PC-DL Leythos suggested, is a
> > mature product, so less likely to create problems for you.
> > Whether you would be interested in these, depends on how soon
> > you need it to work.)
> >
> >
http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?threadid=54871
> >
http://www.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/Socket604/NCCH-DL/e1636_ncch-dl.pdf
> >
http://www.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/Socket604/NCT-D/e1737_nct-d.pdf
> >
> > A quick glance at the manual, shows NCCH-DL is ATX form factor,
> > uses the same 875 Northbridge used by P4C800 boards, and uses
> > ordinary unbuffered PC3200 (with ECC or without ECC, your choice).
> > In a sense, it is like a P4C800 with two processors instead of one.
> > The Southbridge is different, and I don't know anything about its
> > track record. The NCCH-DL looks to be the successor to the PC-DL
> > that Leythos mentioned, only supports FSB800, whereas PC-DL
> > does FSB400 and FSB533 processors (officially). Note that although
> > you stuff 4x1GB modules in it, you get to use only 3.2 to 3.5GB of
> > the memory, due to the PCI/AGP needing some address space. And it
> > takes an AGP 8X graphics card, so you can use the board for
> > visualization as well as computing. (Play Doom3 on one processor,
> > while the other one is grinding out some work.
🙂
> >
> > The NCT-D appears to be ATX form factor too. It is 12 x 9.8 inches.
> > It can have up to 8 GB of registered ECC DDR2 memory (I wonder where
> > you buy that ?). I expect the NCCH-DL might have the better memory
> > bandwidth of the two, but you may have to wait for a review site
> > to bench it to be sure. The NCT-D has a slot for PCI Express x16,
> > for the successor to AGP video cards.
> >
> > If you look at Asus web sites, you might notice that the motherboard
> > models listed, differ from site to site. Not all boards are sold
> > in all markets (like model numbers for microATX boards for example,
> > sometimes differ from one part of the world to another). This makes
> > it difficult to see stuff like the two boards mentioned above.
> >
> >
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/mbindex.htm (6 boards listed)
> >
http://www.asus.com.tw/products/mb/mbindex.htm (26 boards listed)
> >
> > On the forums.2cpu.com, you may see some mention of Tyan boards
> > as well. Tyan has some dual and quad Opteron boards, which are
> > fun to look at, just for the sheer amount of stuff on the board.
> > Note that some boards take video cards, while other boards are
> > true server boards with ATI Rage XL build-in graphics only, which
> > wouldn't be very practical for visualization. (Useful benchmarks
> > comparing Xeon desktops to Opteron desktops are hard to find, so
> > I have no idea which is a better fit for you.)
> >
> >
http://www.tyan.com/l_chinese/products/html/matrix.html
> > (A Quad to drool over...)
> >
http://www.tyan.com/l_chinese/products/html/thunderk8qspro.html
> >
> > Things to watch out for - finding a chassis to house your purchase,
> > finding the right power supply, with the connectors needed and
> > power rating, and the all important cooling solution for the
> > processor. I don't know if the FSB800 Xeons will need something
> > special for cooling or not (as they are 90nm, expect a bit of
> > extra heat). Failure to cool these properly, means they'll
> > run in thermal throttle mode all the time, and they won't
> > benchmark well as a result. Perhaps forums.2cpu.som will
> > have some suggestions.
> >
> > The bottom of this page, lists the Xeons available for sale:
> > http://www.intel.com/intel/finance/pricelist/
> >
> > Have fun,
> > Paul
>
>
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