E4300 Pin mod

[dasickninja]

No problem.

 

[darious00777]

You fool!! If you were a true enthusiast you would lap you heatsink till it was mirror smooth, then buy and apply Shin-Etsu X23 thermal paste, make your own phase changer, and build a shrine to me. I tell you. The nerve of noobs today...

:lol:

Well, least the E and U were in the correct place.

And no shrine, sorry, don't do idol worship. Let my processor singing at 2.4 gigahertz be praise enough. Remember, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. 😛

 

[killz86]

so if you do this mod, you need a 1066mhz mobo. just asking still kinda new to the c2d line and such. have spent more time on router's then anything but now that problem is fixed i am all back to nomal learning sorry to ask what would you say a noobish qestion i belive.

 

[croc]

Now that Wusy no longer talks to 'us folks' (not even to Kiwi's) how's the Wusy doing?

Nice mod, BTW...

 

[dasickninja]

Most Conroe/Allendale ready boards can support the 1066MHz FSB that you'll get form this mod, so thats not really a problem.

@Croc
He's cool, going to school, working on stuff, teaching me certain things.

 

[Talon]

Bosaka Wrote:

Non Acetone based nail polish remover will take care of conductive pen traces. I tried messing around with some vold mods on an E6600 that didnt pan out - the remover took it off without a trace.

That sounds like a reasonable way to clean up to me. So there you go.

 

[rdhood]

First off, THANK YOU! I paid $159 for the Frys special with E4300 and ECS Mobo. I did the Mod, and BAM 2.4. My PCMark05 score is much higher on my $159 rig than my Opty 185 @2.8 rig now. Makes me want to cry.

I went into BIOS and raised FSB to 300 and BAM 2.7. Was not stable at stock volts at 2.7 but is a rock at 2.4.

Anyway thanks again for the GOOD info. 😀

Exactly, Joe. That is the point of this mod... for all those wondering "why does this matter?". That ECS board does not have AGP/PCI lock, so anything above 200Mhz (for a 200Mhz FSB CPU) or 266 Mhz (for a 266 Mhz FSB CPU) risks lockups from some other system device (hard drives, video cards, etc). So you fool the MB into thinking the chip is a 266Mhz CPU instead of 200Mhz CPU, and you still have a nice overclock if you are not ready to move to an oc'ing MB.

 

[mars633]

Please help me out here. The picture is confusing me when I look at Intel Socket 775 processor land coordinates (sec. 3.1.8) and the accompanying figure 17 which is the land-out diagram. When I look at the picture the writer is connecting pins H1 to K1. Am I correct? But, if you goto Intel's developers info site mentioned beofre you see that H1 is GTLREF0 not BSEL1. BSEL1 is H30 which is on the opposite side of the CPU. VSS is nowhere near H1. K1 (assuming the picture is correct) is VTT_OUT_LEFT NOT VSS. My question: is the diagram correct becuase the labeling is not?

 

[dasickninja]

Can you link me to which Pin out coordinates you are viewing?

 

[mars633]

http://www.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/313278.htm

 

[mars633]

The pin mod is correct. The Intel's developers info shows a "TOP" view while the picture shows a "BELOW" view. Sorry for the heads-up!

 

[dasickninja]

That was the next thing I was going to ask you, what is the orientation of your chip.

 

[joewho]

Just wanted to spit out some numbers.

ECS P4M800PRO-M V.2 with E4300 at 2.5ghz PCMark05=5787

Rig in sig PCMark=2987

I was told by ECS Tech support that the AGP/PCI is locked on V.2 MoBo.

I have a question for yall smart ones. I'm using Mushkin Redline DDR PC4000 Ram in this motherboard. Will this make a differance or can I just put in PC3200 and still get the same overclock :?:

Thanks

 

[darious00777]

IT WORKS, IT WORKS. I'M SCREAMING IT TO THE MOUNTAINS, IT WORKS!!!

I'd like to thank you, DaSickNinja, you have helped me to achieve my first overclock. My deepest and most sincerest thanks also goes to the person from whom you were revealed this information from. I don't think it was the nail polish remover, or the conductive ink pen, or the isopropyl alchohol that brought tears to my eyes, it was you guys. Thank you so very much.

DaSickNinja, may this be the everlasting shrine built from me to honor and give thanks to you.



Notes:

That Conductive Ink Pen from Radio Shack could be more pricey then what is said on the website. It cost me $13+tax, which was a little bit of a surprise. For application on the chip, if using this stuff, ignore the electrical tape, it's a pain in the rear and causes more problems then it helps to relieve. For me to get it to work I set the chip down on piece of paper I printed where to put the ink, made a very tiny drop of the ink on the paper, then dipped the tip of the pen in this drop, and then applied it to the chip. It gave me the ability to define where I wanted the ink to go, instead of oozing all over the place, which hapened to me many times.

Hope this helps.

Sidenote 2: Intel's Thermal Analysis Tool is reported a five degree increase in temperature, and not going much above. Standing at 43 degrees celsius right now.

 

[Grimmy]

well.. dang. Guess that pen was kinda messy?

Nice job on the pin mod though. 😀

 

[darious00777]

Yeah, the pen was a bit messy, but it all worked in the end. Coffee filters, isopropyl alchohol for the thermal paste, filters and non-acetone nail polish remover to take care of the three failed attempts to create the modification. But, at least it dries very fast.

 

[Retrolock]

according to the MSI forums, a guy tested this mod and confirmed that this mod does not work on

MSI P965 Neo-F

it has crappy bios it seems

 

[darious00777]

All I can say for certain is that it works on an Intel D945GCF motherboard. That much I can confirm.

 

[joefriday]

according to the MSI forums, a guy tested this mod and confirmed that this mod does not work on

MSI P965 Neo-F

it has crappy bios it seems

Some boards simply don't recognize pinmodded bootstraps. My theory is that those boards set the CPU bus speed through microcode instead. From my own personal experience, other boards where pinmodding the bootstrap does not work are the Asrock 775i65G, and the Foxconn E-bot sff barebones socket 478. However, vcore pinmods still work on both.

 

[Dave_McMahon]

Hi I have the MB in title and have setup my E4300 to a 266MHz FSB using the BIOS!

I'm using 2x512MB Kingston Value DDR2-667 RAM and the System (I think it's memory related) wont Clock higher than 266MHz dead (not even 267MHz)

Is there any advantage in using this mod in terms of stabilty (already clocked up 8hrs of prime 95) Or for performance? (to get past 266MHz limit?

p.s How did anyone find out about this? Was the info leaked from Intel, Or did someone randomly connect groups of pins!!! Would love to know how this kind of stuff gets found out!

Do you guys know/can guess why I cant set my Trc to lower than 21, despite my mem running 4-4-4-12? ( I think it should be Trc 16 at 4-4-4-12??????

Thanks for reading.

 

[darious00777]

I'm not entirely sure, so don't take my word on it, but I think for BIOS control for the front side bus, the limit is on what the motherboard can handle. You shouldn't have a problem upping the front side bus after the modification, unless 266 is the limit for the motherboard in any situation.

For the pin mods themselves, I think people who have studied CPU design and read how the pins relate to each other figured these things out. Just like how for Conroes instead of the 266 they're set at, they can be pin modded up to 333.

On a note for memory, it could be the memory that's limiting your overclock. Try lowering the 667 to 533 and see how it works out.

 

[tik]

Thanks Ninja.

 

[dasickninja]

Eh, no problem.

 

[balister]

Here's a question for Ninja since we're looking at overclocking just by a quick pin mod. How likely do you think it would be to overclock a 4400 to a 333 fsb from the base 200 fsb (using something like a 680i board) and using a multiplier of x8 or x9? I'm sure there's going to be a lot of heat issues as you're running the processor at 66% overclock effectively. Think it's doable or doomed to failure without some exotic cooling?

 

[dasickninja]

I'll say, you'll need very efficient cooling like a T120 or similar, and you'd better hope that you're chip batch is a good one. By the way, do you mean E4300 and not E4400? To my knowledge, Intel hasn't released another Allendale series chip as of yet. :?