E5200 OC

[radguy]

So a few months back I finally decided to upgrade my computer. Picked up an E5200 heard of its oc capabilities and a gigabyte p45 board and set out to find oc joy. well didn't turn out that way. I couldn't get it to run oced until the voltage was bumped up significantly. Heat was never an issue and it just would never boot above 3.5ghz. Best oc I got was 3.4 with a wopping 1.45V. Yeah I say it again 3.4 at 1.45 was the best my oc could get. Temps never got to 60 after hours and hours of prime. Bumped the voltage way up and got nowhere. Finally settled at 3.2 on 1.4V for long term. A little too much voltage for my taste but hey it was only an 80 dollar chip.

So again a couple weeks ago my parents old 1.7ghz pentium 4 computer died and I set out to build them a new one. 900 bucks later including OS monitor and keyboard I today have finished there new build. I bought an E5200 for their build as well and decieded to put there new cpu in my build and put mine in theres. Wasn't going to oc there cpu even though spent about 30 good bucks cooling. So new E5200 and attempt 2 at OCing joy. Well this time I must say things went much better. the old hole gone and booting up nicely at no adjustment to vtt right in at 3.1ghz was nice. after playing around a while booted just fine at 4ghz yep 4 ghz but went over 80 C. sad I must say currently have it a 3.8 and am trying to figure out best long term oc which will probably be closer to 3.6 but I must very happy today. Cooling has once again become the limiting factor.

It just goes to show that ocing is not a guarantee. All you people who sugest oh just oc your computer to whatever value don't be so fast. There chip might run fine at stock but oced might suck. You should easily hit ~4 ghz with that cpu (not so fast). You don't know plain and simple

 

[tripper688]

uhm dude..while ocing is not a gaurantee, you don't easily hit 4ghz with an e5200, most overclocks with that chip wind up in the high 3ghz range. for the 4ghz overclocks, you need to tweak more than just the multi/fsb/vcore in your bios..and not to mention the article that was extremely popular on digg featuring the e5200 OCing to 4ghz and theoretically going much farther...that was done with a lapped e5200, watercooling, and a very experienced overclocker. your results are right where they should be, 3.8ghz is a fine result

 

[tripper688]

but again...knowing what you're doing will get you far more consistent results vs hoping for getting that golden chip . and nice overclock, what chip is it ..sorry for diverting the thread a bit ><

 

[radguy]

When I got the first chip I was hopeing for 3.6ghz. the numbers I was hearing were from 3.8 to 4.0 being faily consistent (with a good bit of voltage though) so I thought I was being pretty conservative. Today I have done a bit more tweaking did some cable management to optimize airflow. Currently have made it 5hrs prime stable at 4.0ghz 1.33V in cpuz and 1.35 in the bios. I think I can bump that down a bit. Max temp 60 C. So needless to say I'm still thrilled with it as this one was 73 dollars. using an S1283 and an antec 900 gigabyet p45. That first chip just oc'ed so freakin weird. It wouldn't go with lots of Volts and to max out a 3.2 just sad.

All I was saying is that I read these forums alot and I keep reading people recomending just oc the chip it will reach X ghz and its usually its an estimate thats probably a little high for people who have never oc'ed. I know exactly say that but thats what I was going after when I said you should easliy hit ~4ghz.

I'm not going to say I am a pro at ocing but I do have quite a bit of knowledge on the subject with todays cpus before pentium 4 not much. I just couldn't figure out what was going on with that chip. I might have been hoping for a golden cpu but I wasn't prepared to get that bad of a chip.

 

[blackpanther26]

well to get more out of an Intel system you must increase the NB and SB voltages as well. Also if you wanted that high of an overclock why did you not look into the Intel Core 2 Duo E8400?

 

[Cache]

I might have been hoping for a golden cpu but I wasn't prepared to get that bad of a chip.

Successful overclocking can be a complicated issue, moreso when you have a chip or board that doesn't want to play nice. You don't mention anything more specific about your system other than a P45 Gigabyte motherboard--and they generally make a good product. Without knowing any of the settings you applied it's utterly impossible to really understand where your problems developed. Was it a dud? Maybe? I can't say for sure until I have some numbers to review.

 

[radguy]

Ok well I posted a thread asking for help a while back. It is a EP45-UD3P. A took the NB and SB up as high as I felt comfortable. I eventually took the voltage to 1.6 Volts but it still wouldn't boot over 3.5. My rams timing were relaxed and underclocked. I had 2 freinds who both have more experience than I do look at it. Couldn't do any better than I could. I spent a month on that cpu and got nowhere. But thats not why I started the thread. All am saying is that some chips just don't oc that well. I think I was just the unlucky 1% that got a really bad chip. I could be wrong but I don't think I am.

My specs are
Antec EA 500
Antec 900
ep45-ud3p
e5200 and an s1283
2x1gb crucial ballistics ddr2 800
8800gt
WD 640 AALS hd -vista 32
250 gb segate - windows 7
some LG dvd drive

I am going to keep playing around with it in my parents new system later on and see what happens. If you have any ideas of what the problem might have been I have all ears open.

 

[radguy]

It wasn't stable and failed at prime on 3.45ghz on 1.45Vs NB and SB bumbed up. Ram not the issue. Would not boot above 3.5ghz

 

[Cache]

It could be--I had a dud once (traded it to my sister and swapped out her identical chip). She never knew the difference and I got a much better PIII. Unfortunately, that only works if you have family that would never notice.

Sorry, man, I don't have anything else I can really offer.

 

[radguy]

its alright I must say I was pretty happy to hear my parents needed a new computer. It meant I could buy another E5200 and trade out mine. Must say 4ghz is a nice upgrade on lower volts. Yeah I eventually just gave up on it. The UD3P version has tons of little tweaking options in it so I played around forever on it. Still trying to figure out what some of them do actually.

Oh and to the E8400 question umm thats like 165 bucks vs 73 at the moment for what 20-30% increase in performance if they are both oced and not duds. My value reasoning got shut down with only a 3.2ghz oc though, but at 3.8-40ghz its alot better. Plus the only game I play that needs the extra cpu performance now is FSX and I ain't about to chuck out 700-800 on a mobo, proc, and ram to play it at the moment. I will say my new oced e5200 does pretty well though.