Editing Desktop Under 2000 Australia

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Hello fellow Toms,
I've been wanting to build my own desktop for a few years already but have never really had the 'reason' or the 'money'... now I have both. The reason being I have finally decided(after designing for quite some time) that I want to break into the apparel industry; I also now have a part time job, hence the money.

A few months ago I had my computer friend put together a few configurations that would suit my needs, all varying in price and power. Here they are https://i.gyazo.com/f92a5ab31310e7872a99d40ea6020763.png . He went extremely in-depth with what products he chose but I am still hesitant to if he 'over-thought' it.

I have $2000(Australian) that I want to spend on this desktop but I don't want a 2000 dollar machine that has the same capabilities as a $1600. I currently am using Photoshop for all my needs but plan on going into video editing also, 16GB ram is my minimum, as I need to be able to have Photoshop, Illustrator and Premier all open at once(with browser, spotify eg). Playing games is nice but I do not want to be paying too much extra, extreme quality is not my objective and from what I understand programming is all ram/processor; which is editing.

Below is the standard layout. Thank you in advance, it really means a lot.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, but on the lower end. Multiples would be cool but most likely later.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes, cheapest win 10 as I understand Pro is not useful.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Australian!

Location: Brisbane, Australia.

Parts Preferences: Quality, WD HDD, long lasting and durable.

Overclocking: No thanks.

SLI or Crossfire: An extra video card? Probably not.

Your Monitor Resolution: I have never had anything bigger than 1920 by 1080 but I only assume bigger is better. I need the price to be justified.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Moving into the big world of editing in both photo and video.

I appreciate the time you're taking so have this
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...Thanks!
 
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Perhaps something like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.00 @ Storm Computers)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($109.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Asus X99-A ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($399.00 @ Storm Computers)
Memory: Kingston FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($139.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($99.00 @ Storm Computers)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($185.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($135.00 @ IJK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($139.00 @ CPL Online)
Monitor: Dell P2414H 60Hz 23.8" Monitor ($249.00 @ Umart)
Total: $2251.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-05 00:32 AEDT+1100

For Premiere it would be a good idea to find a used Nvidia GTX 780. In Adobe premiere it performs better than gtx 970 while being cheaper. Also, for rendering x99 platform and a 6 core cpu would be better than going with Skylake and a 4 core CPU. You can also easily overclock it to 4ghz+ as well. Hope that helps :)
 
Hello!, I'm not the most experienced when it comes to professional rendering builds but I'll do my best to help.

I've outlined a general build for you for 2K AUD, and I'll explain the reasoning behind chosen parts to the best of my ability.

I7 6700- 4 cores and 8 threads, this CPU should do the job pretty darn well when it comes to rendering and editing with the adobe suite and is my personal recommendation for builds like this.

Cryorig H7- An easy to install cooler, quiet and should do the job.

Asus H170 Pro - A good, reliable motherboard for the money.

16GB RAM - No need to explain here
STORAGE:

Intel 240GB M.2 SSD- SSD's made by intel are generally reliable, will be the boot drive and scratch drive for editing. (Can be put in a raid 0 with a SATA3 drive in the future if needs be.)

WD 3TB Blue Drive- 3TB's should be enough to store your projects, though can be expanded with more drives in the future

Asus GTX 960- Should help accelerate your editing and rendering well, and will allow you to play games at good settings if you ever decide to start
gaming.

Fractal Define R5- Very high quality case with lots of room to work in and sound dampening materials for better peace of mind.

Antec 620W- High quality PSU with semi modular cabling which will make setting the computer up more easier.

Viewsonic VX2370SMH- Excellent IPS monitor for the price- has a color accuracy mode called sRGB so you know what you'll get when it comes to printing time.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($458.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($45.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Asus H170-PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($172.00 @ Umart)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($103.40 @ Newegg Australia)
Storage: Intel 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($125.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($136.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($279.00 @ CPL Online)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($169.00 @ IJK)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.00 @ Umart)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($139.00 @ CPL Online)
Monitor: ViewSonic VX2370Smh-LED 23.0" Monitor ($229.90 @ Newegg Australia)
Total: $1975.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-05 01:25 AEDT+1100
 
Here you go
PCPartPicker part list: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/VXsgRB
Price breakdown by merchant: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/VXsgRB/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($458.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus H170-PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($172.00 @ Umart)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($111.10 @ Newegg Australia)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($175.00 @ Umart)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($509.00 @ CPL Online)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($135.00 @ IJK)
Monitor: Asus VS228T-P 60Hz 21.5" Monitor
Total: $1828.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-05 01:25 AEDT+1100
 


Thank you, this appears to be a very solid build although I would swap the Seagate for a WD. One question though, do you still recommend the 780 over the 970 for photo editing as video editing isn't going to be happening from the word go unlike photo editing?



Not sure if you purposely put the 5400 over a 7200 but thank you for the build. Do you think it would be wiser to wait out lower prices for the SSD and then buy a 500gb or more?



Thanks for the build! Is a 8GB video card going to be of any use to an editor like myself since not even games use all of that?

Appreciate the replies!
 
Chucked together a build based on everyones suggestions, http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/nHKgRB . Is the price justifying performance and quality?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($458.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($45.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Asus H170-PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($172.00 @ Umart)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($103.40 @ Newegg Australia)
Storage: Intel 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($125.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.00 @ IJK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card ($329.00 @ Umart)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($162.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.00 @ Umart)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($19.00 @ IJK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($139.00 @ CPL Online)
Monitor: AOC I2379VHE 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($195.00 @ CPL Online)
Keyboard: Thermaltake CHALLENGER PRIME Wired Gaming Keyboard ($45.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($61.00 @ Umart)
Total: $2114.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-05 12:56 AEDT+1100
 


I've picked that 2TB Seagate hdd, because it's a hybrid. It also has a small SSD to cache most used software and speed them up. In my opinion it's really good buy for the price. For Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator having a powerful GPU doesn't make much of a difference, so 6 core cpu would be much more useful there. Although, if you also want to game on your new system GTX 960 is a good pick.
If you decide to go with the i7 6700 and a h170 motherboard, skip the aftermarket C7 CPU cooler. You can't overclock on h170 and having an aftermarket cooler wouldn't matter. I would still strongly suggest for you to consider X99 system, having 6 CPU cores would make a difference in your use case scenario :)
 


My updated list is below, the price has risen but I think it is justified. I've swapped the 6700 to a K so that instead of upgrading earlier I'll just OC it, added in a cooler for the same reason. I opted for the newer generation of motherboard (Z170) because I don't want to bottleneck future upgrades and have to upgrade too soon. Also, went for the GTX 970 4gb because A) It's a newer generation than the 780; B) It's more powerful than the 960 especially if I ever choose to game; C) I don't want to upgrade soon and want to make the most of my money even if that means shipping out extra.

One question regarding these upgrades is... are they the best for their types? For example is the cooler the best one for the price and is the 970 the best branded version? Thanks in advance! : )

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($519.00 @ CPL Online)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212X 82.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($52.00 @ Umart)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($353.10 @ Newegg Australia)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($103.40 @ Newegg Australia)
Storage: Intel 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($125.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($475.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($162.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.00 @ CPL Online)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($19.00 @ IJK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($139.00 @ CPL Online)
Monitor: AOC I2379VHE 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($195.00 @ CPL Online)
Keyboard: Thermaltake CHALLENGER PRIME Wired Gaming Keyboard ($45.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($61.00 @ Umart)
Total: $2510.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-07 18:44 AEDT+1100
 
Consider swapping your CPU cooler for this one http://www.fishpond.com.au/Electronics/CRYORIG-H7-Tower-Cooler-For-AMDIntel-CPUs/9999897748054 . Almost 10C difference in temperature under load between it and Cooler Master 212X. Do you need any extra features that Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO gives you? This motherboard would be more than enough: http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157634&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction-AU&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-AU-_-Motherboards%20-%20Intel-_-ASRock-_-13157634&cm_sp=&AID=11892377&PID=3938566&SID= . Also, I would consider getting a 27 inch 1440p IPS monitor :), not sure if that's out of your budget though
 


Cheers for all the help man, really appreciate it! I'd go for that suggested motherboard but I'd feel safer with 4x SATA 6 slots like this one has http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z170extreme6 but from the looks it's the same but with more slots? That cooler is $79 from fishpond and I'm pretty sure that is excluding postage(from usa) otherwise I'd get it without a doubt. Also, I wish I could afford to get a 27 inch or even a multiple 23 inch setup but atm getting the right hardware is more important.


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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($519.00 @ CPL Online)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212X 82.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($52.00 @ Umart)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Extreme6+ ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($276.10 @ Newegg Australia)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($103.40 @ Newegg Australia)
Storage: Intel 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($125.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($475.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($162.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.00 @ CPL Online)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($19.00 @ IJK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($139.00 @ CPL Online)
Monitor: Asus VC239H 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($195.00 @ CPL Online)
Keyboard: Thermaltake CHALLENGER PRIME Wired Gaming Keyboard ($45.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($61.00 @ Umart)
Total: $2433.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-07 21:39 AEDT+1100
 


The motherboard that I've suggested (ASRock Fatal1ty Gaming Z170 Gaming K4 ) has 6x Sata 3 (6gbps) ports, 2 x Sata express and an M.2 32gbps port (pcie x4). I've double checked that..
Also Asrock Z170 Extreme6+ has 8x Sata 3 (6gbps) ports. You shouldn't trust specifications on pcpartpicker. They're quite often incorrect.
 


Looking through the link you sent me I did notice that but assumed the pcpartpicker one must of been a different model, thanks for the clarification. Would it be okay to ask your opinion on the r9 380, 390 and 390x in comparison to the 970 GTX? It appears to be a substantially better card in terms of performance minus the heat it produces. Cheers :)


I checked gpuboss and it dominates the 970 in every category, the 380, 390 and 390x all seem to be very powerful cards. My question is though, how much of an effect will I actually notice over the GTX during editing both videos and photos? Will all the 8gb of vram actually be taken advantage of and do I really need more than 4gb? The downside to the 380, 390/x is they're hot... Would my current case, fans and cooler be efficient enough to keep that under control? Thanks in advance.
 
Actually the gtx 970 may be better for you because of its cuda cores ( I completely forgot about that!). The 8 gb of vram of the r9 r390 mostly come in handy in demanding games since many of them now require over 4 gb of vram to run at higher resolutions and settings. So I guess if you're only editing the 970 is better.
 


Stick to Nvidia cards for adobe creative suite. Adobe supported CUDA (technology behind nvidia cards) for years and only quite recently they've introduced support for Open CL (AMD cards). GTX 970 and R9 390 are more or less equal for gaming, but nvidia gtx 970 is a better choice for Photoshop, Premiere, etc.
 


Thanks, decided on getting the [strike]Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX, the metal build was the only edge really[/strike] MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V since it has a better cooling solution and my IT friend recommended it. A question regarding my CPU though, would getting the Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor over the i7-6700K be a good idea? I ask this because it has 2 more cores and also is similarly priced... the only problem being that it's an older generation. Would the impact be negligible or not even at all? Thanks in advance!

(Question is open to everyone)

E: How far off are the next generation of video cards 'Pascal' and would they greatly affect the 970/980 GTX pricings?
 


Yes, that's why I went with the 5820k build at first, but for some reason you didn't really consider it ;D i7 5820k build is a much better idea for video/photo editing, especially if you're going to overclock it. Most 5820k processors would get to at least 4.2ghz. When comparing Skylake vs Haswell, Skylake has ~6% better performance per clock, but if you went with 5820k, you would get 2 extra cores and that would be a much bigger improvement for editing.
New nvidia "Pascal" GPU's should come out some time this summer, but we can only guess how much they're gonna impact gtx 970/980 pricing ;S
 


I've really grown through this process, I guess finally being able to purchase a desktop has pushed me from being just a 'spectator' to a 'builder'... To think, I used to judge processors by i7>i5>i3 and higher#>lower#.
Well, I popped the 5820K into the build with the ASRock motherboard but it states it isn't compatible. Could this be because the ASRock is Z170 and if so, would the benefits from having a Z170 and the 6700K outweigh having a H170 and 5820K? Thanks!

E: The socket for the 5820K is an old and I assume that is the reason it won't work with the motherboard? The socket is a LGA2011-3 for the cpu and LGA1151 for the mobo.
 


In order to use i7 5820k, you have to go with the X99 chipset and LGA2011-3 socket motherboard :) Such as this one: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gax99sli
 
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