Question Excessive noise from PC ?

[Values]

Hello everyone. I have a PC with an MSI MPF X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI motherboard, AMD Ryzen 7 3700X cpu, Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX580 8GB graphics card, and a Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB liquid cooling system. Since I bought the PC, I haven't been able to make it silent—it always makes quite a bit of noise to prevent overheating. I've tried adjusting the fan speeds in the BIOS, but there's still noise.

After all this time, I haven't been able to balance silence with keeping temperatures low. I gave up long ago and accepted that this PC would be noisy.

But I decided to post in this forum to see if anyone had a similar problem and achieved positive results.

Thank you very much.

 

[COLGeek]

Please describe your total cooling configuration. Number of case fans and direction they move air.

Typically, front, side, and bottom fans pull air into the case.

Top and rear suck hot air out.

What, if anything, are you overclocking (CPU, GPU, memory)?

 

[CountMike]

Hello everyone. I have a PC with an MSI MPF X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI motherboard, a Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX580 8GB graphics card, and a Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB liquid cooling system. Since I bought the PC, I haven't been able to make it silent—it always makes quite a bit of noise to prevent overheating. I've tried adjusting the fan speeds in the BIOS, but there's still noise.

After all this time, I haven't been able to balance silence with keeping temperatures low. I gave up long ago and accepted that this PC would be noisy.

But I decided to post in this forum to see if anyone had a similar problem and achieved positive results.

Thank you very much.

Which CPU,? 5800x and up need better cooler.

 

[Values]

Which CPU,? 5800x and up need better cooler.

Please describe your total cooling configuration. Number of case fans and direction they move air.

Typically, front, side, and bottom fans pull air into the case.

Top and rear suck hot air out.

What, if anything, are you overclocking (CPU, GPU, memory)?

Hi both.
I'm using an AMD Ryzen 7 3700X.
The tool I use to control the fans is MSI's own BIOS tool.

I'm not currently overclocking.

The fans I have are as follows:
-System 1: the one at the back of the case.
-System 2: at the bottom of the front of the case.
-System 3: at the top of the front of the case.
-System 4: in the middle of the front of the case.
-CPU 1: the two in the RL that are screwed to the ceiling.
-Pump 1: I assume this is the RL itself; it doesn't make much noise even at maximum rpm.
-Chipset: I'm not sure what this one is. It's normally at 0 rpm, but if I increase its rpm, it starts up.

The three fans on the front of the case bring in air.
The rear case fan draws air.
The two fans on the CPU 1 roof draw air into the case.

I've installed MSI Center and Adrenaline software for the graphics card, in case that might help control all of this. I don't think it should be necessary, though.

The case is very similar to a Cooler Master MB510L.
Three front fans and one rear fan.
Thank you very much.

 

[Gururu]

So you have four 4x4 case fans, two CPU cooler fans, and two GPU fans. Sounds like it could be loud, especially if the case fans are mid-tier or aging. Is the water cooler pump contributing at all?

 

[CountMike]

Hi both.
I'm using an AMD Ryzen 7 3700X.
The tool I use to control the fans is MSI's own BIOS tool.

I'm not currently overclocking.

The fans I have are as follows:
-System 1: the one at the back of the case.
-System 2: at the bottom of the front of the case.
-System 3: at the top of the front of the case.
-System 4: in the middle of the front of the case.
-CPU 1: the two in the RL that are screwed to the ceiling.
-Pump 1: I assume this is the RL itself; it doesn't make much noise even at maximum rpm.
-Chipset: I'm not sure what this one is. It's normally at 0 rpm, but if I increase its rpm, it starts up.

The three fans on the front of the case bring in air.
The rear case fan draws air.
The two fans on the CPU 1 roof draw air into the case.

I've installed MSI Center and Adrenaline software for the graphics card, in case that might help control all of this. I don't think it should be necessary, though.

The case is very similar to a Cooler Master MB510L.
Three front fans and one rear fan.
Thank you very much.

Something must be wrong, my 3700x stayed at max 60c cooled by Arctic Liquid Cooler 240 even with fans at half speed.

 

[CountMike]

So you have four 4x4 case fans, two CPU cooler fans, and two GPU fans. Sounds like it could be loud, especially if the case fans are mid-tier or aging. Is the water cooler pump contributing at all?

He has AIO liquid cooler so case fans are not important,

 

[Unolocogringo]

The three fans on the front of the case bring in air.
The rear case fan draws air.
The two fans on the CPU 1 roof draw air into the case.
You have 5 fans trying to blow air into the case and one trying to remove it?

Put the top AIO fans as exhaust.
Rear fan as exhaust. Front as intake..
Your fans are fighting each other with them all blowing air IN the case.

 

[COLGeek]

Those top fans (on the AIO) should be exhaust fans, removing hot air from the case.

 

[Values]

So you have four 4x4 case fans, two CPU cooler fans, and two GPU fans. Sounds like it could be loud, especially if the case fans are mid-tier or aging. Is the water cooler pump contributing at all?

Why do you say that 2 are for cpu and 2 are for gpu?

The fans are at least from 2019, they are the ones from the box itself.
Right now without an excessive workload, I only have web browsers open and little else, it would be like this:

-System 1: the one at the back of the case. 950rpm
-System 2: at the bottom of the front of the case. 833 rpm
-System 3: at the top of the front of the case. 845rpm
-System 4: in the middle of the front of the case. 853 rpm
-CPU 1: the two in the RL that are screwed to the ceiling. 760rpm
-Pump 1: I assume this is the RL itself; it doesn't make much noise even at maximum rpm. 2200rpm
-Chipset: I'm not sure what this one is. It's normally at 0 rpm, but if I increase its rpm, it starts up. 833 rpm.

The GPU temperature right now is averaged at 50º.
The CPU temperature is averaged at 44º.

 

[Values]

Something must be wrong, my 3700x stayed at max 60c cooled by Arctic Liquid Cooler 240 even with fans at half speed.

As you can see, the temperature doesn't reach 60°C. Although it's true that I'm not currently gaming or using the PC extensively, just browsing and little else.

Although I tried to play with the temperatures a while ago, I couldn't find the balance between staying warm and not making too much noise.

 

[Values]

The three fans on the front of the case bring in air.
The rear case fan draws air.
The two fans on the CPU 1 roof draw air into the case.
You have 5 fans trying to blow air into the case and one trying to remove it?

Put the top AIO fans as exhaust.
Rear fan as exhaust. Front as intake..
Your fans are fighting each other with them all blowing air IN the case.

So your idea is to remove the RL fans that are on the ceiling and change their direction so that they expel air?

 

[Values]

Those top fans (on the AIO) should be exhaust fans, removing hot air from the case.

I understand, it's the same thing @Unolocogringo said before, right?

 

[Paperdoc]

As advised above, remove and re-mount the fans on the top radiator to blow air out.This will balance the airflow and improve it overall. Ensure that the REAR fan is set to blow out.

From your posts it appears you have set ALL fans manually to fixed speeds no matter what you are doing. Most people would NOT do that. The simplest way to make the fans adjust to what is really needed as your workload changes is to use the default fan speed control setting in BIOS Setup. Doing this gets the fans running slower and quieter when you are doing low-workload tasks and has them speed up only when you do heavy work. The related alternative is to do that BUT alter the details of what speed to run for what temperature (that is, the "fan curve"), which also is possible in your system. But I advise you use the default settings at first and AFTER you have done that for a while you decide whether or not to customize the fan curve.

How? Go into BIOS Setup (as you appear to have done) and alter the settings for EACH fan header as follows. (See mobo manual p. 63.)

For every header, start by setting All Set Default at lower right. Assuming that all your fans are the newer 4-pin type, on all headers set the fan type at upper left to PWM, not DC and not Auto.

CPU1 you may bot have any option for this, but it should be set to use the CPU temperature sensor (may already be set that way with no option)

PUMP ought to operate the pump of your AIO CPU cooling system at full speed all the time. You may not have any setting options here - it just will do that one job no matter what.

All System fans (you are using all four headers for case vent fans front and back) should use the motherboard temperature sensor, not CPU and not any other. PWM fan type (upper left) and default fan curve for all.

I am puzzled by your comments on the CHIPSET header. Some mobos have such a header but the manual for yours says it does not, even though it is shown as possible on the fan control screen on p. 63. Many mobos with no such header still do have a temperature sensor on the mobo typically near the Voltage Regulator circuits, and an option to use this instead of the motherboard general sensor for any of the SYS_FAN headers. This is ONLY to be used IF you somehow mount a fan dedicated to cooling that spot of the mobo. But since you have no such header, I am puzzled how you say it "starts up" if you manually set a speed there. You have no such fan.

If you set the headers this way, all four (front and rear) case ventilation fans will operate exactly the same to blow air though the case and their speeds will be adjusted according to the temperature sensor on the motherboard. The rad fans of your CPU cooler will also be adjusted, but guided instead by the temp sensor built into your CPU chip. As exhaust fans they will contribute to removing warm air from inside the case, but their priority will be cooling the CPU. The pump of your CPU cooling system will run full speed always as designed. At low to medium workloads the system should be pretty quiet, but will make more noise at high workloads.

 

[Values]

As advised above, remove and re-mount the fans on the top radiator to blow air out.This will balance the airflow and improve it overall. Ensure that the REAR fan is set to blow out.

From your posts it appears you have set ALL fans manually to fixed speeds no matter what you are doing. Most people would NOT do that. The simplest way to make the fans adjust to what is really needed as your workload changes is to use the default fan speed control setting in BIOS Setup. Doing this gets the fans running slower and quieter when you are doing low-workload tasks and has them speed up only when you do heavy work. The related alternative is to do that BUT alter the details of what speed to run for what temperature (that is, the "fan curve"), which also is possible in your system. But I advise you use the default settings at first and AFTER you have done that for a while you decide whether or not to customize the fan curve.

How? Go into BIOS Setup (as you appear to have done) and alter the settings for EACH fan header as follows. (See mobo manual p. 63.)

For every header, start by setting All Set Default at lower right. Assuming that all your fans are the newer 4-pin type, on all headers set the fan type at upper left to PWM, not DC and not Auto.

CPU1 you may bot have any option for this, but it should be set to use the CPU temperature sensor (may already be set that way with no option)

PUMP ought to operate the pump of your AIO CPU cooling system at full speed all the time. You may not have any setting options here - it just will do that one job no matter what.

All System fans (you are using all four headers for case vent fans front and back) should use the motherboard temperature sensor, not CPU and not any other. PWM fan type (upper left) and default fan curve for all.

I am puzzled by your comments on the CHIPSET header. Some mobos have such a header but the manual for yours says it does not, even though it is shown as possible on the fan control screen on p. 63. Many mobos with no such header still do have a temperature sensor on the mobo typically near the Voltage Regulator circuits, and an option to use this instead of the motherboard general sensor for any of the SYS_FAN headers. This is ONLY to be used IF you somehow mount a fan dedicated to cooling that spot of the mobo. But since you have no such header, I am puzzled how you say it "starts up" if you manually set a speed there. You have no such fan.

If you set the headers this way, all four (front and rear) case ventilation fans will operate exactly the same to blow air though the case and their speeds will be adjusted according to the temperature sensor on the motherboard. The rad fans of your CPU cooler will also be adjusted, but guided instead by the temp sensor built into your CPU chip. As exhaust fans they will contribute to removing warm air from inside the case, but their priority will be cooling the CPU. The pump of your CPU cooling system will run full speed always as designed. At low to medium workloads the system should be pretty quiet, but will make more noise at high workloads.

Thank you so much for your message, it's helped me a lot.
The first thing I'll do is change the direction of the ceiling fans.

Regarding the chipset, when I enter the BIOS, there's a fan that's literally called that. I don't know exactly what it is, but that's the name they gave it.

When I take the RL apart, I'll try to figure out what it could be, because I'm a little confused myself.