Extremely Disappointed with Gaming PC

[OmiexStrike]

Ever since I bought the parts for this PC and did my first build, it has brought nothing but disappointment to me. In almost every game I try, except for older games, I can never manage to achieve a stable 60 fps or higher. Everytime I fight big mobs, look in the open world, go into towns, my fps drops to like the 30's. Lowering the settings makes it better but that's not the point, I built this pc to game on good settings and it can't even do that without fps drops to 30's. Is there something wrong with it? I keep thinking my cpu is absolute garbage and that I should have went with intel, amd is just pure garbage when it comes to CPU's imo if that is even the problem.

Here are my specs: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qZjygs

I have vsync on since my monitor is 60 hz otherwise I get horrible screen tears.

I also have latest video card drivers too.

Games I have tried: TERA, Firefall, Defiance, Diablo 3 (big mobs causes drops), Planetside 2, etc.

The only game it seems to do good in is League of Legends and it stays at constant 60 even in fights. But that game is designed to even run good on laptops...

The total came to about 1.1k with OS and monitor after I ordered everything and tax. Pcpartpicker had some prices which weren't right and I had to order off other places which caused it to come to that total.

Anyways, is there something I am doing wrong or anything I can do or does my pc just plain out suck and I got ripped off?

Thanks...

Also: My temps and everything seem to be fine, I checked with MSI afterburner and when gaming temps were around 50-60 degrees C, and gpu usage varied on the game tested on. So everything appears to be normal. And I'm not OC'ing or anything as I don't have a CPU cooler except for my stock. I just keep the fx 6300 at stock speeds.

Man, I just want to go into a corner and cry lol, all I wanted was a gaming pc and all I get is fps problems..

EDIT:

Video I just took showing my problem:

Game is Defiance on maxed settings.

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2mgt5ax&s=8#.U9jFuPldX_Y

EDIT: 2

Just two questions I'm kind of OCD about ever since I built my pc several months back:

-On my first install of Windows 8.1 64 bit, when I first put in the disc, the install like crashed with an error or idk if it was a blue screen or something but when I ran the installation again, everything was fine and Windows 8.1 64bit was installed.

-Some wires were kind of sticking out of the sides of the case, the big thick PSU cables, when I finished the build so I kind of had to force the case panels a little in order to close the case. Due to this, the case panels are a little popped out, just a very little bit due to it pushing against the psu cables, but I don't think its putting that much force on the cables, if any force at all, because what is mostly making the case pop out is this little rubber circle thing on the side of the case, I don't know what its for but its sort of glued onto the case. Nonetheless, if say it was pushing a little on the big, thick PSU cables, the PSU cables are sturdy enough to handle a very small bit of force right?


Pictures of small popped out parts of case:

http://postimg.org/image/fha21ii55 (top right corner)
http://postimg.org/image/race7wx5b (bottom right corner)
http://postimg.org/image/wmuhzspwz (top left corner)
http://postimg.org/image/z1hs6hgs3 (bottom left corner)

From these two questions, could any of these potentially be causing fps problems or more specifically drops to 30's 20's in huge fights? Or should I just ignore them since my benchmarks proved my pc to be good and even better than some people's builds with the same components as me, and also that my cpu/gpu temps, gpu usage, etc. all look ok due to tests with msi afterburner and other programs?

 

[MasterDell]

FX CPUs are quite terrible for half the games in existence. A decent i3 will blow away an FX-6300 in most games, and match it in the others. I'd suggest you switch to an i5 if you can afford it, or an i3 if you can't afford an i5. Or settle for less than ultra/60 fps. Because the FX CPUs really don't hack it in many games, regardless of how nice their artificial specs look, or how many people are fooled by the simple advertising stats.

He couldn't have worded that better

 

[doctoordave77]

This has been an interesting thread, and I've learned something about CPU's. I'm not an expert, but here is a quote from someone who claims to be;



All GPUs being equal, the AMD chip is going to hold back your graphics card in comparison to the performance you could get in combination with an Intel CPU.

by Tech Radar

 

[OmiexStrike]

Hey guys,

Thanks for all the help and I have basically accepted that I can't go at a solid 60 fps on max settings for every game, especially due to using vsync as well since that caps the framerate, making the fps become more likely to drop below 50's, etc.

I have also looked at a number of videos on youtube where I saw people benchmarking the games I was playing but they had i5's and everything and noticed that they too did not have a solid 60 fps either, even without recording in fraps as some of them mentioned in the description. Even though it had a little better performance than my system, their fps was dropping to the 50's and even 40's, and also in the 20's in massive fights (just like mine) which should be expected in a lot of systems anyways due to the high number of monsters, etc., it is bound to cause some significant fps drops. I guess I couldn't expect to maintain a solid 60 fps like I said, especially with this budget build. If anything, I would need a high end system to be able to try to achieve a solid 60 fps with vsync on as well due to horrible screen tears. I also have to consider the optimization/coding of the game which can heavily affect performance.

In the end, I guess I shouldn't be all picky about everything, I used to uninstall games just cause my fps was not a solid 60 and was dropping to 50's or 40's, but it's normal anyways, at least for this budget build. I believe that this is still a good build and I shouldn't expect every game to be able to run on max/60 fps solid with no drops haha.

I'm happy there is nothing wrong with my system either as proven by benchmarks, temps, etc., it actually exceeds some people's builds with the same cpu/gpu according to 3dmark benchmarks so I'm happy about that as well. I guess I did pretty good for my first ever build =D. All in all, the games are still very playable and not everything has to be put up to the maximum detail and quality for my eyes to be pleased.

 

[MasterDell]

Hey guys,

Thanks for all the help and I have basically accepted that I can't go at a solid 60 fps on max settings for every game, especially due to using vsync as well since that caps the framerate, making the fps become more likely to drop below 50's, etc.

I have also looked at a number of videos on youtube where I saw people benchmarking the games I was playing but they had i5's and everything and noticed that they too did not have a solid 60 fps either, even without recording in fraps as some of them mentioned in the description. Even though it had a little better performance than my system, their fps was dropping to the 50's and even 40's, and also in the 20's in massive fights (just like mine) which should be expected in a lot of systems anyways due to the high number of monsters, etc., it is bound to cause some significant fps drops. I guess I couldn't expect to maintain a solid 60 fps like I said, especially with this budget build. If anything, I would need a high end system to be able to try to achieve a solid 60 fps with vsync on as well due to horrible screen tears. I also have to consider the optimization/coding of the game which can heavily affect performance.

In the end, I guess I shouldn't be all picky about everything, I used to uninstall games just cause my fps was not a solid 60 and was dropping to 50's or 40's, but it's normal anyways, at least for this budget build. I believe that this is still a good build and I shouldn't expect every game to be able to run on max/60 fps solid with no drops haha.

I'm happy there is nothing wrong with my system either as proven by benchmarks, temps, etc., it actually exceeds some people's builds with the same cpu/gpu according to 3dmark benchmarks so I'm happy about that as well. I guess I did pretty good for my first ever build =D. All in all, the games are still very playable and not everything has to be put up to the maximum detail and quality for my eyes to be pleased.

I'm glad you came to that conclusion, enjoy your computer

 

[Duckhunt]

Do you have two screens? You need to tell me the speed while doing something intensive like gaming. It might go back and forth from two speeds. Just tell me the max speed it went to.

Unfortunately I have a single monitor, but I can try alt tabbing real quick and seeing the speed before it jumps down, I'll let you know the speeds in a couple mins.

Did you go the steam website and talk with the experts on your AMD cpu fx-6300. Go there and give them hell. I heard that it should be able to do it but i have not seen anyone who has.

 

[OmiexStrike]

Do you have two screens? You need to tell me the speed while doing something intensive like gaming. It might go back and forth from two speeds. Just tell me the max speed it went to.

Unfortunately I have a single monitor, but I can try alt tabbing real quick and seeing the speed before it jumps down, I'll let you know the speeds in a couple mins.

Did you go the steam website and talk with the experts on your AMD cpu fx-6300. Go there and give them hell. I heard that it should be able to do it but i have not seen anyone who has.

Haha, what do you mean?

 

[OmiexStrike]

Hey guys,

Thanks for all the help and I have basically accepted that I can't go at a solid 60 fps on max settings for every game, especially due to using vsync as well since that caps the framerate, making the fps become more likely to drop below 50's, etc.

I have also looked at a number of videos on youtube where I saw people benchmarking the games I was playing but they had i5's and everything and noticed that they too did not have a solid 60 fps either, even without recording in fraps as some of them mentioned in the description. Even though it had a little better performance than my system, their fps was dropping to the 50's and even 40's, and also in the 20's in massive fights (just like mine) which should be expected in a lot of systems anyways due to the high number of monsters, etc., it is bound to cause some significant fps drops. I guess I couldn't expect to maintain a solid 60 fps like I said, especially with this budget build. If anything, I would need a high end system to be able to try to achieve a solid 60 fps with vsync on as well due to horrible screen tears. I also have to consider the optimization/coding of the game which can heavily affect performance.

In the end, I guess I shouldn't be all picky about everything, I used to uninstall games just cause my fps was not a solid 60 and was dropping to 50's or 40's, but it's normal anyways, at least for this budget build. I believe that this is still a good build and I shouldn't expect every game to be able to run on max/60 fps solid with no drops haha.

I'm happy there is nothing wrong with my system either as proven by benchmarks, temps, etc., it actually exceeds some people's builds with the same cpu/gpu according to 3dmark benchmarks so I'm happy about that as well. I guess I did pretty good for my first ever build =D. All in all, the games are still very playable and not everything has to be put up to the maximum detail and quality for my eyes to be pleased.

I'm glad you came to that conclusion, enjoy your computer

Thank you =D

 

[Duckhunt]

Do you have two screens? You need to tell me the speed while doing something intensive like gaming. It might go back and forth from two speeds. Just tell me the max speed it went to.

Unfortunately I have a single monitor, but I can try alt tabbing real quick and seeing the speed before it jumps down, I'll let you know the speeds in a couple mins.

Did you go the steam website and talk with the experts on your AMD cpu fx-6300. Go there and give them hell. I heard that it should be able to do it but i have not seen anyone who has.

Haha, what do you mean?

I heard it was suppose to work at that and I am hoping that other pals of mine who bought a similar setup have it. I never bothered to ask them but the theory says all the performance is in the GPU. The CPU is not it. I am sure that few people bought your setupt to run 1080p at 60fps or higher. Else something is really wrong?. I had to search up. Don't believe it can be hype that i5 kills fx-6300 or fx-6300 is worse then i3. This is what I found.

GTX590
Processor: Fx6300
Mainboard: 970 Extreme 3
Memory: Corsair Vengence 1600mhz
Soundcard: Sound Blaster Z
PSU: Silent Pro 1KW

This is the set up. He had the same problem exactly like you. His problem was the Bios settings. Your memory should at stock speed 1600mHz.
I quote,
"
I found the issue. There was a setting in my bios that had my ram running at something stupid like 940? Not sure why? I set it to 1600mhz and the botteneck is gone!

Seems SO obvious now but somehow I didn't notice it at all. So at the moment I'm at 2560x1080 high-ultra and it's running fine, averaging 40 or 50 frames a second.

So relieved. "

 

[MasterDell]

Do you have two screens? You need to tell me the speed while doing something intensive like gaming. It might go back and forth from two speeds. Just tell me the max speed it went to.

Unfortunately I have a single monitor, but I can try alt tabbing real quick and seeing the speed before it jumps down, I'll let you know the speeds in a couple mins.

Did you go the steam website and talk with the experts on your AMD cpu fx-6300. Go there and give them hell. I heard that it should be able to do it but i have not seen anyone who has.

Haha, what do you mean?

I heard it was suppose to work at that and I am hoping that other pals of mine who bought a similar setup have it. I never bothered to ask them but the theory says all the performance is in the GPU. The CPU is not it. I am sure that few people bought your setupt to run 1080p at 60fps or higher. Else something is really wrong?. I had to search up. Don't believe it can be hype that i5 kills fx-6300 or fx-6300 is worse then i3. This is what I found.

GTX590
Processor: Fx6300
Mainboard: 970 Extreme 3
Memory: Corsair Vengence 1600mhz
Soundcard: Sound Blaster Z
PSU: Silent Pro 1KW

This is the set up. He had the same problem exactly like you. His problem was the Bios settings. Your memory should at stock speed 1600mHz.
I quote,
"
I found the issue. There was a setting in my bios that had my ram running at something stupid like 940? Not sure why? I set it to 1600mhz and the botteneck is gone!

Seems SO obvious now but somehow I didn't notice it at all. So at the moment I'm at 2560x1080 high-ultra and it's running fine, averaging 40 or 50 frames a second.

So relieved. "

If you are speculating if the 6300 is worse than the i5 please read: The i5 will destroy, tag, and bag the 6300 on any occasion even if it was overclocked to its teeth in an ice cold room.

 

[Duckhunt]

Do you have two screens? You need to tell me the speed while doing something intensive like gaming. It might go back and forth from two speeds. Just tell me the max speed it went to.

Unfortunately I have a single monitor, but I can try alt tabbing real quick and seeing the speed before it jumps down, I'll let you know the speeds in a couple mins.

Did you go the steam website and talk with the experts on your AMD cpu fx-6300. Go there and give them hell. I heard that it should be able to do it but i have not seen anyone who has.

Haha, what do you mean?

I heard it was suppose to work at that and I am hoping that other pals of mine who bought a similar setup have it. I never bothered to ask them but the theory says all the performance is in the GPU. The CPU is not it. I am sure that few people bought your setupt to run 1080p at 60fps or higher. Else something is really wrong?. I had to search up. Don't believe it can be hype that i5 kills fx-6300 or fx-6300 is worse then i3. This is what I found.

GTX590
Processor: Fx6300
Mainboard: 970 Extreme 3
Memory: Corsair Vengence 1600mhz
Soundcard: Sound Blaster Z
PSU: Silent Pro 1KW

This is the set up. He had the same problem exactly like you. His problem was the Bios settings. Your memory should at stock speed 1600mHz.
I quote,
"
I found the issue. There was a setting in my bios that had my ram running at something stupid like 940? Not sure why? I set it to 1600mhz and the botteneck is gone!

Seems SO obvious now but somehow I didn't notice it at all. So at the moment I'm at 2560x1080 high-ultra and it's running fine, averaging 40 or 50 frames a second.

So relieved. "

If you are speculating if the 6300 is worse than the i5 please read: The i5 will destroy, tag, and bag the 6300 on any occasion even if it was overclocked to its teeth in an ice cold room.

Well maybe in the specs but I am sure some folk I know got fx-6300s and they did well at 1080p 60fps with a good GPU and even in the bigger things it was not 20fps. An i3 will not do anything at 1080p.

I do agree with the consensus that i5s seem to do it well at 1080p at 60fps with a decent GPU. He has a decent GPU.

Is it the motherboard that makes the difference? I am not doubting that i5 will do it. I am just saying that fx-6300 should be able to do it too at overclock. I am sure I have heard that over and over.

 

[OmiexStrike]

Do you have two screens? You need to tell me the speed while doing something intensive like gaming. It might go back and forth from two speeds. Just tell me the max speed it went to.

Unfortunately I have a single monitor, but I can try alt tabbing real quick and seeing the speed before it jumps down, I'll let you know the speeds in a couple mins.

Did you go the steam website and talk with the experts on your AMD cpu fx-6300. Go there and give them hell. I heard that it should be able to do it but i have not seen anyone who has.

Haha, what do you mean?

I heard it was suppose to work at that and I am hoping that other pals of mine who bought a similar setup have it. I never bothered to ask them but the theory says all the performance is in the GPU. The CPU is not it. I am sure that few people bought your setupt to run 1080p at 60fps or higher. Else something is really wrong?. I had to search up. Don't believe it can be hype that i5 kills fx-6300 or fx-6300 is worse then i3. This is what I found.

GTX590
Processor: Fx6300
Mainboard: 970 Extreme 3
Memory: Corsair Vengence 1600mhz
Soundcard: Sound Blaster Z
PSU: Silent Pro 1KW

This is the set up. He had the same problem exactly like you. His problem was the Bios settings. Your memory should at stock speed 1600mHz.
I quote,
"
I found the issue. There was a setting in my bios that had my ram running at something stupid like 940? Not sure why? I set it to 1600mhz and the botteneck is gone!

Seems SO obvious now but somehow I didn't notice it at all. So at the moment I'm at 2560x1080 high-ultra and it's running fine, averaging 40 or 50 frames a second.

So relieved. "

If you are speculating if the 6300 is worse than the i5 please read: The i5 will destroy, tag, and bag the 6300 on any occasion even if it was overclocked to its teeth in an ice cold room.

Well maybe in the specs but I am sure some folk I know got fx-6300s and they did well at 1080p 60fps with a good GPU and even in the bigger things it was not 20fps. An i3 will not do anything at 1080p.

I do agree with the consensus that i5s seem to do it well at 1080p at 60fps with a decent GPU. He has a decent GPU.

Is it the motherboard that makes the difference? I am not doubting that i5 will do it. I am just saying that fx-6300 should be able to do it too at overclock. I am sure I have heard that over and over.

My RAM is at 1600 mhz, I checked in the BIOS, and its been like that ever since I first built my pc.

About your friend, was his fx 6300 overclocked? Because mine isn't since I don't have an aftermarket cooler, just the stock.

And also, did he use vsync in his games? I have to use vsync which caps the fps at 60 to avoid bad screen tearing.

Lastly, did he play any of the following games: Firefall, TERA, Defiance? Those are the games I have the issues with. If not, what games did he play so I can try them out and see if I have this problem.

 

[MasterDell]

I think you are under the misconception that it is my and others opinions the i3 will beat the 6300. No it is a fact that the i3 will beat the 6300 and YES. The i3 will play games very well at 1080p.. I'm not sure if you are an AMD fan boy or not but look at benchmarks of the two CPUs

 

[Outlander_04]

FX CPUs are quite terrible for half the games in existence. A decent i3 will blow away an FX-6300 in most games, and match it in the others. I'd suggest you switch to an i5 if you can afford it, or an i3 if you can't afford an i5. Or settle for less than ultra/60 fps. Because the FX CPUs really don't hack it in many games, regardless of how nice their artificial specs look, or how many people are fooled by the simple advertising stats.

He couldn't have worded that better

He couldn't have worded it worse .
The FX6300 is only beaten by an i3 in older game engines . Of which there are going to be less and less .
When a game can use all 6 cores the cpu is only a few percentage points behind an i5 . The difference in fps is not noticeable , or barely noticeable .
The problem in this build is the 7870 . Its a mid range card and people expect it to max out all games at 1080p resolution? It wont . It never could .

 

[all stalked out]

At the end of the day The FX range is outdated and needs replacing, The 6300 is the low end 6 core of it's gen and it needs overclocking to keep close to the competition at stock, Even then it's not always close.

Having said all that the FX range is a good option for any budget build and that's the operative word "BUDGET".
If your building something and your making concessions by going for cheaper options your gonna get lower performance figures. The FX range is the budget option, there's nothing wrong with that, just don't expect a high end experience across the board.

As I said in my first post upgrading the gpu to a 280/280x and then the cpu to a 8320/50 is the cheapest way you can improve things, Upgrading just the gpu won't cut it in the long term.

 

[Duckhunt]

They are right. Fx-6300 is your problem. I talked to my pal. he told me so what if it has some problems. It is a budget pc and it is playable, just have to live within your means. I feel so foolish now.

OC it or else you can't do much else. keep an eye on temps. Maybe add a fan if you want to help keep it cool. Just do what ever is the cheapest way. I did notice in your 3dmark speed you had these things. Make sure your memory is 1600Mhz. I misread your GPU. It aint as good as gtx590. I thought it was. Though just becareful if you try to go crossfire your Power won't cut it.
64-bit Windows 8.1 (6.3.9600)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. M5A97 R2.0
Memory
8,192 MB
Module 1
4,096 MB G.Skill DDR3 @ 800 MHz
Module 2
4,096 MB G.Skill DDR3 @ 800 MHz
Hard drive model
1,000 GB WDC WD10EZEX-21M2NA0

Remember you can't future proof, Just go for even a 2nd hand upgrade. See what is there? . There are many second hand i5s with m/bs about. Just make sure they run it for you before hand. Usually for 10 minutes or so. If you can't smell anything or see anything burned or funny rebooting and the temperature is ok. you can be sure that its fine.

 

[papablista]

Why is your memory running at 800mhz (according to 3d mark results) with that board the minimum should be 1066 and your partpicker shows you as having 1600... hmmmm!

 

[all stalked out]

Why is your memory running at 800mhz (according to 3d mark results) with that board the minimum should be 1066 and your partpicker shows you as having 1600... hmmmm!

Your reading it wrong,

Plus they do not always read right look at mine and that's 2133mhz Vengeance pro ram

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2464938

 

[Agente Silva]

Go to BIOS and set your CPU multipliers manually instead of auto adjust... A friend of mine with the FX8500 (I think this is the model) had that multiplier constantly changing from 7x to 21x... after setting it to 20x he never had crashes/stutters in BF4. By looking at your PC setup, 1.1k is way too much money for a rig without an SSD or 16GB of RAM. Your PC is mid end, don´t expect it to run like high end...

 

[partonjon]

I had a similar situation a few years back. My first real build had a X4 975 and a 6850, and it worked pretty well for a few years because I mostly just played wow and I didnt really care about maxing it out. Most other games played pretty well, but I mostly played those on 360 anyway.

After I moved on from wow and wanted to play other MMOs I realized not so quickly that my cpu was the problem, i realized this after buying another 6850 to crossfire, which didnt help much at all, so I sold those and bought a 6950. This was great for other games, huge difference, but not for MMOs. So i bought an aftermarket cooler, but it was loud and I hated it (I still hate it!), so I got an H60, which was great for ambient temps, not spectacular for overclocking. I couldnt get my cpu stable above 3.8 without heat issues.

This became my obsession, Ive spent so much time and money since building that first damn computer. New parts, new cases, new fans, you name it. Just to get that damn 60 fps. I know your pain.

Now Ive got a 4670K and a 680 Lightning, and Im pretty happy with it. Stuck at 4.3 right now because of the H60.

My point is, you shouldnt let it consume you, because it can become a rather spendy obsession.

Some advice as well I suppose, look around for optimization guides for the particular game your playing. Sometimes there are config edits that can improve fps, or something as simple as turning down shadows usually makes a huge impact on the fps.

And then, like everyone has said, overclock. Get a decent aftermarket cooler and jack that thing up to 4.5, this makes a very big difference on MMOs.

And for now, try disabling the cpu auto throttle features, in windows or BIOS, and set it to run at the boost speed, it should be able to handle the temp since its designed to run at 4.1 when needed. Run prime95 on small FFT and see where your temps get after about 10 mins. And then for a few hours on blend to check stability if the temps are fine.

 

[Rationale]

Well maybe in the specs but I am sure some folk I know got fx-6300s and they did well at 1080p 60fps with a good GPU and even in the bigger things it was not 20fps. An i3 will not do anything at 1080p.

Uh, lol. My i3 destroys the FX-6300. It also destroys overclocked FX-6300s in every way. Please don't talk about things you don't understand.

 

[MasterDell]

Well maybe in the specs but I am sure some folk I know got fx-6300s and they did well at 1080p 60fps with a good GPU and even in the bigger things it was not 20fps. An i3 will not do anything at 1080p.

Uh, lol. My i3 destroys the FX-6300 in every way. It also destroys overclocked FX-6300s in every way. Please don't talk about things you don't understand.

THANK YOU

 

[OmiexStrike]

Go to BIOS and set your CPU multipliers manually instead of auto adjust... A friend of mine with the FX8500 (I think this is the model) had that multiplier constantly changing from 7x to 21x... after setting it to 20x he never had crashes/stutters in BF4. By looking at your PC setup, 1.1k is way too much money for a rig without an SSD or 16GB of RAM. Your PC is mid end, don´t expect it to run like high end...

If I do that, wouldn't that be considered overclocking? And without a aftermarket cooler I'm not sure if I should mess with that haha.

 

[OmiexStrike]

I had a similar situation a few years back. My first real build had a X4 975 and a 6850, and it worked pretty well for a few years because I mostly just played wow and I didnt really care about maxing it out. Most other games played pretty well, but I mostly played those on 360 anyway.

After I moved on from wow and wanted to play other MMOs I realized not so quickly that my cpu was the problem, i realized this after buying another 6850 to crossfire, which didnt help much at all, so I sold those and bought a 6950. This was great for other games, huge difference, but not for MMOs. So i bought an aftermarket cooler, but it was loud and I hated it (I still hate it!), so I got an H60, which was great for ambient temps, not spectacular for overclocking. I couldnt get my cpu stable above 3.8 without heat issues.

This became my obsession, Ive spent so much time and money since building that first damn computer. New parts, new cases, new fans, you name it. Just to get that damn 60 fps. I know your pain.

Now Ive got a 4670K and a 680 Lightning, and Im pretty happy with it. Stuck at 4.3 right now because of the H60.

My point is, you shouldnt let it consume you, because it can become a rather spendy obsession.

Some advice as well I suppose, look around for optimization guides for the particular game your playing. Sometimes there are config edits that can improve fps, or something as simple as turning down shadows usually makes a huge impact on the fps.

And then, like everyone has said, overclock. Get a decent aftermarket cooler and jack that thing up to 4.5, this makes a very big difference on MMOs.

And for now, try disabling the cpu auto throttle features, in windows or BIOS, and set it to run at the boost speed, it should be able to handle the temp since its designed to run at 4.1 when needed. Run prime95 on small FFT and see where your temps get after about 10 mins. And then for a few hours on blend to check stability if the temps are fine.

I see, how would I set it to run at boost speed in the BIOS? Also in the catalyst control center I see an option under the tab CPU Power which shows a slider from 1.4 Ghz to 4.1 Ghz, if I move the slider so it only selects the 4.1 Ghz range is that the same thing as overclocking to boost speed and setting it to always run at that speed instead of messing in the BIOS?

 

[Outlander_04]

Well maybe in the specs but I am sure some folk I know got fx-6300s and they did well at 1080p 60fps with a good GPU and even in the bigger things it was not 20fps. An i3 will not do anything at 1080p.

Uh, lol. My i3 destroys the FX-6300. It also destroys overclocked FX-6300s in every way. Please don't talk about things you don't understand.

I dont think you understand what the word "destroy"means

 

[Outlander_04]

Go to BIOS and set your CPU multipliers manually instead of auto adjust... A friend of mine with the FX8500 (I think this is the model) had that multiplier constantly changing from 7x to 21x... after setting it to 20x he never had crashes/stutters in BF4. By looking at your PC setup, 1.1k is way too much money for a rig without an SSD or 16GB of RAM. Your PC is mid end, don´t expect it to run like high end...

What your friend was seeing is AMD cool'n'quiet changing the multiplier and voltage to save power when the cpu performance is not required . Intel chips do exactly the same thing