News Fake HDMI cable crackdown - Taiwanese police raid suppliers of counterfeit HDMI cables, seize $2.6 million in knockoffs in a single day

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Police in Taiwan have cracked down on counterfeit HDMI cable sales, raiding online sellers across the island.

Fake HDMI cable crackdown - Taiwanese police raid suppliers of counterfeit HDMI cables, seize $2.6 million in knockoffs in a single day : Read more

 

[bit_user]

...makes me wonder how many counterfeit HDMI cables have been sold in the US.

I think counterfeits aren't necessarily inferior, although anyone too cheap to pay the HDMI licensing fee is probably too cheap not to take shortcuts in the cable design, construction, or materials.

If you want to be sure you're getting quality cables, I've found these guys to be reliable:

HDMI Cable from Blue Jeans Cable

To be honest, I've also bought plenty of cables off Newegg and Amazon, but I carefully check the claimed specs and the customer reviews. I look for cables with good review ratings, not just the cheapest.

 

[gggplaya]

...makes me wonder how many counterfeit HDMI cables have been sold in the US.

I think counterfeits aren't necessarily inferior, although anyone too cheap to pay the HDMI licensing fee is probably too cheap not to take shortcuts in the cable design, construction, or materials.

If you want to be sure you're getting quality cables, I've found these guys to be reliable:

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HDMI Cable from Blue Jeans Cable

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To be honest, I've also bought plenty of cables off Newegg and Amazon, but I carefully check the claimed specs and the customer reviews. I look for cables with good review ratings, not just the cheapest.

If all you need is standard 4k 24hz or 30hz video, then cheap cables work fine. But once you step up into HDR and true 120hz or higher refresh rates as well as VRR(Gsync/Freesync), you need good cables. I tried with what I though were 48gbps cables on amazon, it would cause my screen to flicker and go black periodically. Thank goodness for easy returns on Amazon.

I found that Zeskit hdmi cables on Amazon are a good budget option with true certification. At least they fixed my problems.

 

[Co BIY]

These sound more like unlicensed than counterfeit products and that seemed to be the police take as well.

I've never had a cable problem and I pretty much buy the cheapest thing on amazon every time. I do go for something with a few decent reviews that seem real.

I am not doing anything that maxes out a spec though.

 

[bit_user]

I am not doing anything that maxes out a spec though.

Yeah, I try to buy higher-spec than I think I'll need - just to build in a little safety margin. Plus, I might someday actually need a cable of that spec and perhaps the extra margin won't have been necessary.

 

[ThomasKinsley]

That's why everyone should exclusively use Monster cables as they offer the best value for performance. 😛

 

[gggplaya]

That's why everyone should exclusively use Monster cables as they offer the best value for performance. 😛

When I worked retail during college, they were always pushing us to sell Monster cables along with TV and related home theater products because the markups on those cables was insane. If I remember correctly, they were like 3x what we paid for them and the TV itself had very low margins when they are on sale. So we would make maybe 5-10% profit on a tv for $1000 which equates to about $50-$100, and about 300% profit on the cable for $75, so about $50, we could double the profit for that sale just by selling a Monster cable with it.

 

[bit_user]

That's why everyone should exclusively use Monster cables as they offer the best value for performance. 😛

I bought Monster Cables two times, before I learned better.

The first time was 1m RCA interconnect cables with connectors so tight they could rip the socket right out of your device. There was a twisting technique for getting them on and off, though it was complicated by the fact that the cables had a connector cover that was screwed on. So, you could only twist them one direction to avoid it unscrewing instead.

The second time was a pair of wires for my center channel speaker. When I moved, I noticed those cables had scorch marks and were a bit melted at the speaker end. The funny thing is I lived in an apartment with rather thin walls and so I kept the volume at the absolute minimum (and didn't use a subwoofer, either). Can't fathom how/why it melted, other than a really badly-made cable. To Monster's credit, they replaced it free-of-charge. The A/V receiver was made by Onkyo and not some cheap no-name brand, although this was like 20 years ago.

Anyway, the main reason I don't buy Monster is that they're just selling an image and not offering real value. For audio frequencies, you don't need a specially-designed cable. Speaker cables just need enough gauge. Interconnect cables can be shielded, but that's about it. Nothing else you can do to a cable makes a bit of difference to the sound.

we could double the profit for that sale just by selling a Monster cable with it.

I'll bet it was a similar story with extended warranties. I remember certain electronics retails used to make a very hard sell on the extended warranties.

 

[cyrusfox]

Display port for anything serious, HDMI for toys.
The $856 fee per cable is puzzling though ($2600000/3037 cables recovered)

 

[bit_user]

Display port for anything serious, HDMI for toys.

DisplayPort is more computer-oriented, while HDMI is more home theater-oriented. That's just due to where they started life and the motives of the standards bodies behind them.

If you're doing anything related to home theater, you'll tend to do a lot better with HDMI. For PCs, I agree that I prefer DisplayPort because it's simpler. Sadly, I've found monitors to have more HDMI inputs than DisplayPort, in spite of the fact that DisplayPort is royalty-free and HDMI isn't.

 

[gggplaya]

DisplayPort is more computer-oriented, while HDMI is more home theater-oriented. That's just due to where they started life and the motives of the standards bodies behind them.

If you're doing anything related to home theater, you'll tend to do a lot better with HDMI. For PCs, I agree that I prefer DisplayPort because it's simpler. Sadly, I've found monitors to have more HDMI inputs than DisplayPort, in spite of the fact that DisplayPort is royalty-free and HDMI isn't.

My problem is that many computer monitors are VRR(FreeSync) capable, but you need HDMI 2.1 ports for that. However they do not include a physical HDMI 2.1 port and only allow VRR with display port. You must read the fine spec print for your monitor and most mainstream consumers would never understand this. I had to help a couple friends with this, and simply told them to buy a display port cable. The problem is when they try to use a PS5 or Xbox X with the monitor, they can't do 120hz or VRR. They end up returning the monitor.

Most TV's that have true 120hz+ will have an HDMI 2.1 port.

 

[bit_user]

My problem is that many computer monitors are VRR(FreeSync) capable, but you need HDMI 2.1 ports for that. However they do not include a physical HDMI 2.1 port and only allow VRR with display port. You must read the fine spec print for your monitor and most mainstream consumers would never understand this. I had to help a couple friends with this, and simply told them to buy a display port cable. The problem is when they try to use a PS5 or Xbox X with the monitor, they can't do 120hz or VRR. They end up returning the monitor.

Most TV's that have true 120hz+ will have an HDMI 2.1 port.

HDMI 2.1 is not required for 120 Hz.

For example, this monitor I just bought can do up to 144 Hz over its HDMI 2.0 ports:

ROG Strix XG27AQMR | Monitors | ROG United States

27”, WQHD (2560 x 1440), Fast IPS, 300 Hz, 1 ms GTG, G-Sync compatible, Variable Overdrive, DisplayHDR 600, ELMB Sync

rog.asus.com

Now, the crazy part is why it has only 1x DisplayPort and 2x HDMI, given those restrictions - and this is not uncommon among monitors I've seen!