Fermi 'slips into January'

[jennyh]

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16342/1/

Nobody except John_ is really suprised.

Note this will not be ready in January, try April now.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

To me, this isnt the problem. Its actually having DX11 chips out in the market, and having the mids out, which is most important.
nVidia needs to step it up, for all our sakes, just to move progress forwards

 

[Mousemonkey]

Four day old news. [:mousemonkey]
http://xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20091105234423_Nvidia_to_Ramp_Up_Fermi_Graphics_Cards_Only_in_2010.html

 

[randomizer]

Fuad is slow off the mark? Never!

 

[Mousemonkey]

And he wasn't the only one this time. :lol:

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Didnt fit til it was official from nV PR?

 

[rescawen]

i think john will have nervous breakdown

 

[randomizer]

Well technically Xbit did get it from NVIDIA. They got it right from Jensen. He has spoken!

 

[jennyh]

You know most Nvidiots don't take it seriously until Fuad agrees.

 

[randomizer]

This is true.

 

[jennyh]

Realistically, it could be June before we see fermi, if at all. That's just incredible - that will be 2 years since the 260 and 280 gtx's were launched.

It's not all their fault ofc but with the yield issues at TSMC I cannot see how a chip so large can be viable unless TSMC are footing the bill for the failures.

As for me, I can't get a replacement for my 5850 and there is not ETA on them coming back into stock so this is a real problem for the whole graphics sector tbh.

 

[jennyh]

I should add, there are hardly any 4-series and 200-series cards left either. Now is a bad time to be looking for graphics cards.

 

[Mousemonkey]

But not an unforeseen one really, considering TSMC had issues back in April/May with the HD4770.

 

[randomizer]

Interesting times ahead. All we need now is VIA.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Well we always have the "Jensen goes to see his old buddy at TSMC" theory heheh

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

So, even when fermi arrives, itll most likely face ATI refrsh parts, narrowing any gap, and ATIs process and drivers and devrel will be in full swing OUCH

 

[jennyh]

Tbh both companies have found themselves in a hole of TSMC's making. AMD are clearly getting it worse - OEM's are trying to build whole 'Windows 7' systems but they are missing one very important ingredient. That isn't just affecting gpu sales, but cpu and chipset too.

TSMC really need to get their act together soon, but how likely is that? As mousemonkey says they've been having issues with their 40nm for months now - is there any reason to believe they will get it sorted at all? If they don't, we will not see Fermi at all, at least not the high end part.

 

[randomizer]

I wonder what's so screwed up over at TSMC. All they've said is they're having chamber matching problems.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

They maybe had to finish what theyd started, finish that, start over, go from there.
Means slow, then nothing, then hopefully fixed, if so

 

[Mousemonkey]

Tbh both companies have found themselves in a hole of TSMC's making. AMD are clearly getting it worse - OEM's are trying to build whole 'Windows 7' systems but they are missing one very important ingredient. That isn't just affecting gpu sales, but cpu and chipset too.

TSMC really need to get their act together soon, but how likely is that? As mousemonkey says they've been having issues with their 40nm for months now - is there any reason to believe they will get it sorted at all? If they don't, we will not see Fermi at all, at least not the high end part.

Hence why I haven't been getting excited, or frustrated, about this round of new cards.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Problem is, by the time Fermi comes out, therell be new releases from both comapies again, thus limiting anu Fermi exclusibity, and lowering it perf ratio

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Like my typos? heheh

 

[Mousemonkey]

Reduce the OC on your keyboard. :lol:

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Anyways, a refrsh could mean a 20% boost in perf by then, counting drivers and clocks and tweaks.
nVidia has to step it up, I personally want to see fermis perf, and not only for games.
Im more excited for it for its gpgpu usage

 

[Mousemonkey]

It should be able to fold like a mad thing, at least I hope it will, whether I get one of not though depends on price still.