[SOLVED] Final Revisions

Karadjgne

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Well to be fair, you did say final revision, lol. But I'd still opt for the 32Gb right off the batt, Ryzens do Not like 4 dimms, you'll be running the ram at 2933MHz at absolute best with 4 sticks, if the mix even works, so purchasing 32Gb later means wasting money on the prior 16Gb.

16Gb for this level of build is a lose-lose situation, in one way or another.
 

Karadjgne

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All that 'future proofing' (hate that term, but it kinda applies here) power and you opted for 16Gb of ram. That's like buying a new pair of shoes and re-using your old laces.

With as long and powerful as that setup will last, I'd have opted for 32Gb of ram, there are games out today with that as a 'recommended' option, and for sure there will be more games out tomorrow with that as not only an option, but recommended requirement.

Even with that cpu, you'll only require a 750w psu and still have extra headroom, you'll not need the 850w models. Could save some money there.
 
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All that 'future proofing' (hate that term, but it kinda applies here) power and you opted for 16Gb of ram. That's like buying a new pair of shoes and re-using your old laces.

With as long and powerful as that setup will last, I'd have opted for 32Gb of ram, there are games out today with that as a 'recommended' option, and for sure there will be more games out tomorrow with that as not only an option, but recommended requirement.

Even with that cpu, you'll only require a 750w psu and still have extra headroom, you'll not need the 850w models. Could save some money there.
The 16gbs are to start off with, I definitely wouldn’t pair 16gbs of ram with a 5900x and a 3070.

I already have the power supply and a few of the other parts.
 

Karadjgne

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Well to be fair, you did say final revision, lol. But I'd still opt for the 32Gb right off the batt, Ryzens do Not like 4 dimms, you'll be running the ram at 2933MHz at absolute best with 4 sticks, if the mix even works, so purchasing 32Gb later means wasting money on the prior 16Gb.

16Gb for this level of build is a lose-lose situation, in one way or another.
 
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Well to be fair, you did say final revision, lol. But I'd still opt for the 32Gb right off the batt, Ryzens do Not like 4 dimms, you'll be running the ram at 2933MHz at absolute best with 4 sticks, if the mix even works, so purchasing 32Gb later means wasting money on the prior 16Gb.

16Gb for this level of build is a lose-lose situation, in one way or another.
Ahh I understand. So will two sets of the same kit be sufficient? G.Skill 3600mhz 16 CAS?
 
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1 Kit of 2x16GB for no mixing reason and 2 sticks instead of 4 for less stress on the memory controller. Advertised speed is easier to achieve on 2 sticks.
Ahh I understand. And with a high end build it’s better to have 32gbs instead of 16. Thank you so much for the help!
 
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Depends how much you're willing to spend.
A fast 4x 8GB kit, with low timings AND LEDs, is going to cost more than a 2x 16GB kit of similar specs and fluff.
Yeah I can get a kit of Trident Z Royal for about $20 less. What do you think? 4x8 or 2x16? And do you think the Trident Z Royal in silver would look good with the motherboard and the rest of the build (if I were to go for the 2x16)?
 
Zen 3 actually performs better with 4 dimms according to Steve at GN.
No, the difference there is not actually four sticks versus two sticks, but rather a dual-rank memory setup versus single-rank, and applies to all modern CPUs to varying degrees, not just Zen3. In the video they were showing the difference between 2x8GB and 4x8GB, but you can achieve a dual rank setup with 2x16GB as well. It doesn't have to be four sticks. Most 16GB sticks today are double-sided, while most 8GB sticks are single sided, meaning a setup using 8GB sticks typically requires twice as many ram modules to enable interleaving. The second page of this article Tom's did for Zen2 last year describes this...

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-3000-best-memory-timings,6310-2.html

They also showed similar performance gains (with an i9-10900K) using a 2x16GB kit in Cyberpunk in an article just yesterday, though realistically one's performance is more likely going to be graphics limited with a 3070 in that game, unless settings are turned way down...

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cyberpunk-2077-memory-tested-how-much-ram-do-you-need
 

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Yeah I can get a kit of Trident Z Royal for about $20 less. What do you think? 4x8 or 2x16?
Ehh, what's 20 bucks? Will the kit pay for itself?

And do you think the Trident Z Royal in silver would look good with the motherboard and the rest of the build (if I were to go for the 2x16)?
That one's subjective, thus all on you, mate.
I'm not the guy to ask regarding aesthetics: The only time I'm actually looking inside my chassis is during maintenance or I'm swapping parts out on a whim; it's out of my field of vision most of the time, even though the box is literally a few feet away...
 
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Ehh, what's 20 bucks? Will the kit pay for itself?


That one's subjective, thus all on you, mate.
I'm not the guy to ask regarding aesthetics: The only time I'm actually looking inside my chassis is during maintenance or I'm swapping parts out on a whim; it's out of my field of vision most of the time, even though the box is literally a few feet away...
Ahh okay. I would go for Corsair Dominator since a lot of my hardware is Corsair (the fans and AIO, more specifically), since I can just use iCue, but that’s extremely expensive. But anyways, I’ll ask a few people about the aesthetics, I think the right choice is 2x16, I can just feel it.
 
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