I find this situation almost inconceivable. That OEMs would make these computers yet deem the North American market, (what?), too sophisticated, not big enough(?)for an FX-8800P laptop. A laptop that can play GTA V @ 1080p on normal settings, chomp through 4K video, has H.S.A. (which Java9, et. al. will leverage), etc., etc.. I'm sure AMD would love to sell their chips in the U.$., but unfortunately only Germany, Asia, India, Europe, (actually everywhere else) but North America, will get them. I've asked my mother, who is currently in Berlin, to bring one back for me when she returns at the end of August. The 17" Acer Aspire checks most of the right boxes, (http://www.saturn.de/mcs/product/_ACER-Aspire-E-17,48352,241166,2044268.html). I've really liked my Gateway NV55S15 (A6-3400M) which is owned by Acer. My question is, who stands to profit or benefit from this situation, certainly not AMD, certainly not the OEMs, (why build them in the first place if not to sell them in as many different markets as possible). It appears that there will be a number of OEMs coming out with a number of different AMD-based laptops this year, just, I guess, don't expect to be able to buy one in the U.$.. Perhaps a few token, anemic Carrizo-L versions will be made available in America, just not one you'd want to buy. This is deplorable. Out of idle curiosity, how many would buy a well-specced one if made available - based on what we know about the FX-8800P, I would, Heck, I am. Too bad it will have a German keyboard and I'll need a voltage adapter. It was either that or crowd-source an outfit to make them and sell them at cost - everybody get together, pool their $600 - $700, agree to specs and off you go. If my mother wasn't in Berlin right now, and bringing a laptop back for me (I'm paying, of course) I'd probably start doing it myself. If someone does decide to make them I'm in for one computer - just tell me where to send my $600 or $700.00 check.