[SOLVED] First build 2.0

[Tsjavo]

Hey guys,

A while back I posted a first build idea, thanks for all the help with that, since then I upgraded my budget a bit and need your advice once again.
This is what’s on my mind now:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fbzd8Y

The pc mostly gonna be used for gaming all sorts of titles, I’m gonna run a 1080p 144hz monitor. What do you guys think? Any better suggestions? Thanks

 

[vMax]

Actually a fairly decent balanced build. The 3600, B450 and DDR4 3200 is a good combination and the ADATA SX8200 is a very good NVMe drive (I have one!) though with the prices being fairly low, if you can stretch the a 500GB NVMe drive, I would do that as you will be surprised how quick it will get filled.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor | $194.79 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard | $149.89 @ OutletPC
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $77.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $94.99 @ Adorama
Video Card | Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 8 GB PULSE Video Card | $359.99 @ Newegg
Case | Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case | $89.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply | Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $102.98 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1070.62
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-10 15:20 EDT-0400 |

Used a single 1TB NVME SSD instead od a 256gb SSD and 2tb hdd.

Changed the GPU to a noticably more powerful but only $30 more Sapphire Radon RX5700 8gb.

 

[jeremyj_83]

Hey guys,

A while back I posted a first build idea, thanks for all the help with that, since then I upgraded my budget a bit and need your advice once again.
This is what’s on my mind now:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fbzd8Y

The pc mostly gonna be used for gaming all sorts of titles, I’m gonna run a 1080p 144hz monitor. What do you guys think? Any better suggestions? Thanks

Spend and extra $3 on this PSU instead https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Wr...fied-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-650fx

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Spend and extra $3 on this PSU instead https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Wr...fied-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-650fx

TXM and SS focus plus gold are on par.

The Focus Plus is fully modular as opposed to the semi-modular TXM, but they are both robust inside.

 

[logainofhades]

I would avoid B450, and go straight to x570, or wait on the MSI B450 max boards. The cost of that Pro carbon, is putting it in budget x570 territory. I threw in a budget cooler, as the wraith stealth can get loud.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400R 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: EVGA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($96.53 @ Walmart)
Total: $1089.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-10 15:27 EDT-0400

 

[jeremyj_83]

TXM and SS focus plus gold are on par.

The Focus Plus is fully modular as opposed to the semi-modular TXM, but they are both robust inside.

They aren't on par though. The Focus Plus Gold is a set above the TXM.

Warranty:
Focus Plus - 10 years
TXM - 7 years

Fan bearing:
Focus Plus - dual ball bearing
TXM - Rifle bearing

Is the TXM a bad PSU, No it isn't. However, when you can get a superior product for $3 you go with the superior product.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

They aren't on par though. The Focus Plus Gold is a set above the TXM.

Warranty:
Focus Plus - 10 years
TXM - 7 years

Fan bearing:
Focus Plus - dual ball bearing
TXM - Rifle bearing

Is the TXM a bad PSU, No it isn't. However, when you can get a superior product for $3 you go with the superior product.

TXM650- 50c temp rating.
Focus Plus gold 650 - 40c temp rating.
Seasonic Focus gold 650 controversial ripple aswell.

Both very good. Each one has pros and cons, which makes them on par in my opinion.

 

[Tsjavo]

They aren't on par though. The Focus Plus Gold is a set above the TXM.

Warranty:
Focus Plus - 10 years
TXM - 7 years

Fan bearing:
Focus Plus - dual ball bearing
TXM - Rifle bearing

Is the TXM a bad PSU, No it isn't. However, when you can get a superior product for $3 you go with the superior product.

However in my country (the netherlands) the price difference is €34 or 37 usd..

 

[jeremyj_83]

TXM650- 50c temp rating.
Focus Plus gold 650 - 40c temp rating.
Seasonic Focus gold 650 controversial ripple aswell.

Both very good. Each one has pros and cons, which makes them on par in my opinion.

Actually both are 50C units and when looking at hard data the Focus Plus is ahead of the TXM more often than it is behind. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-ssr-750fx-focus-plus-750-gold-psu,5206.html
Also tomshardware seems to be the only one that saw issues with ripple. Jonnyguru didn't for the 750W, so it was probably tomshardware's sample. https://www.jonnyguru.com/blog/2017/07/10/seasonic-focus-plus-750-gold-750w-power-supply/6/

 

[jeremyj_83]

However in my country (the netherlands) the price difference is €34 or 37 usd..

Realistically you only need a 550W PSU in that build. https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product...fied-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-550fx
Ironically the 750W version is cheaper than the 650W version though. https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product...fied-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-750fx

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Seasonic even commented on the issue :
https://knowledge.seasonic.com/article/20-focus-plus-and-gpu-potential-compatibility-issues

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/s...us-plus-psu-has-gpu-compatibility-issues.html
https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...s-goldplatinum/?tab=comments#comment-12821954

The newer ones have capacitors in the cable to try to help.

The list in my description shows the focus at 40c.
According to seasonic:0 - 50 °C (derating from 100 % to 80 % from 40 °C to 50 °C)

 

[Tsjavo]

I would avoid B450, and go straight to x570, or wait on the MSI B450 max boards. The cost of that Pro carbon, is putting it in budget x570 territory. I threw in a budget cooler, as the wraith stealth can get loud.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400R 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: EVGA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($96.53 @ Walmart)
Total: $1089.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-10 15:27 EDT-0400

Why should I avoid the b450? And the pro carbon runs wifi (what I don’t necessarily need) the x570 a pro is €30 more over here, my other option was the msi b450 tomahawk max which costs €40 less then the pro carbon, is that worth going for?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

B450 lacks PCIE4. There are some other issues with delayed bios updates aswell.

Id go for the tomahawk max and use the extra money for the RX5700