Question First Gaming PC (Just bought a 3070 TI FE from Best Buy)

Dragonisles

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Budget (including currency): $2000 USD
Country: USA
Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Overwatch, Apex, Control, Hearts of Iron IV, and I want it to be pretty future proof
Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):
I currently have a 144hz 1080p monitor but plan to upgrade to a 1440p monitor at some point down the line. I just bought a 3070 TI FE from Best Buy so looking to get the rest of the parts! I put this pcpartpicker list together but if you think I could make changes no matter how big or small I would love to here your opinion. This is my first gaming PC as I am upgrading from my old gaming laptop with a i7-6700HQ and Nvidia 980M.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NPhWp2

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($269.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: EK EK-AIO Basic 360 77 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($190.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Team T-Force Cardea Zero Z330 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card (Purchased For $599.99)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Phanteks AMP 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($108.07 @ Amazon)
Total: $1892.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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As a complete aside...I has posted about the In Store Event they were having today.

Do you mind saying how long or how early you arrived, what lines or crowd was like and particularly in reference to the employees handing out tickets?
Any idea how many tickets and what level of what stock they had on hand for it?

I apologize for the thread derail on the first comment. I have one of these stores close by. IDK if they will do this again, or pick the same store even...but would be interested in hearing how it all went down.

The only comments I have regarding your build relate to the case.
I have a Phanteks p400, and later upgraded to the mesh front, essentially making it an A model. Before I did so it had significant heating issue. After the cooling got well better, but CPU and case fan noise was pretty distracting and particularly with the case on the desk beside me.
I found that an AIO and working the fan curves to only be aggressive under load helped a lot. They are a beautiful case and I have enjoyed doing two builds within this one so far.
 

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As a complete aside...I has posted about the In Store Event they were having today.

Do you mind saying how long or how early you arrived, what lines or crowd was like and particularly in reference to the employees handing out tickets?
Any idea how many tickets and what level of what stock they had on hand for it?

I apologize for the thread derail on the first comment. I have one of these stores close by. IDK if they will do this again, or pick the same store even...but would be interested in hearing how it all went down.

The only comments I have regarding your build relate to the case.
I have a Phanteks p400, and later upgraded to the mesh front, essentially making it an A model. Before I did so it had significant heating issue. After the cooling got well better, but CPU and case fan noise was pretty distracting and particularly with the case on the desk beside me.
I found that an AIO and working the fan curves to only be aggressive under load helped a lot. They are a beautiful case and I have enjoyed doing two builds within this one so far.
As the experience is was good. I got to the best buy location at 5:30am and waited for 3hrs for them to hand out the tickets at 8:30 then they let us into the store at 9am. They had roughly 170 cards to sell and when I got there I was 115 person in line. When they got to me they had 3090/3080ti/3070ti/3060ti (all 3080/3070 tickets were given out).
So but with my build it looks good? nothing you would change
 
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As the experience is was good. I got to the best buy location at 5:30am and waited for 3hrs for them to hand out the tickets at 8:30 then they let us into the store at 9am. They had roughly 170 cards to sell and when I got there I was 115 person in line. When they got to me they had 3090/3080ti/3070ti/3060ti (all 3080/3070 tickets were given out).
So but with my build it looks good? nothing you would change
Thank you for the deets on that. I wanted to go but had to work.

I feel like your parts are solid. The 5600X is considered among the best current gaming CPU, so certainly no fault there. That G Skill is going to look killer in there...

The only worrisome aspect to me is concerning your cooler. The only fitment for that will be in the front. The lower half of that bottom fan area is actually in the basement of the Phanteks case. There is a drive cage that will have to be removed as well as a small panel that comes off above. I would triple check to be sure the 360 is going to fit there. I would probably consider doing due diligence to be sure your selected RAM is on the QVL. Also, check your mobo to be sure it's ready for the 5xxx or has the BIOS flash feature. I did not look.

I actually don't know anything about your chosen power supply, so perhaps someone else can comment on that aspect. It's voltage and rating instill confidence in my opinion, but have never used one.
 
Budget (including currency): $2000 USD
Country: USA
Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Overwatch, Apex, Control, Hearts of Iron IV, and I want it to be pretty future proof
Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):
I currently have a 144hz 1080p monitor but plan to upgrade to a 1440p monitor at some point down the line. I just bought a 3070 TI FE from Best Buy so looking to get the rest of the parts! I put this pcpartpicker list together but if you think I could make changes no matter how big or small I would love to here your opinion. This is my first gaming PC as I am upgrading from my old gaming laptop with a i7-6700HQ and Nvidia 980M.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NPhWp2

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($269.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: EK EK-AIO Basic 360 77 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($190.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Team T-Force Cardea Zero Z330 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card (Purchased For $599.99)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Phanteks AMP 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($108.07 @ Amazon)
Total: $1892.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The list looks fine to me, I would feel a little out of focus buying such expensive memory kit.
You should really see no diference in real life performance by going wth something like: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fBLwrH/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c18d-32gtzr, or even the: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H7hmP6/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-f4-3600c18d-32gtzn.
As for te PSU, if you were to save some money on the RAM, you could get similar brand/model but with a 850 watts rating (Far as I know and from the website itself, thats probably a Seasonic rebranded PSU: https://www.phanteks.com/Amp-Series.html).

But hey, thats me!
 

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The list looks fine to me, I would feel a little out of focus buying such expensive memory kit.
You should really see no diference in real life performance by going wth something like: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fBLwrH/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c18d-32gtzr, or even the: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H7hmP6/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-f4-3600c18d-32gtzn.
As for te PSU, if you were to save some money on the RAM, you could get similar brand/model but with a 850 watts rating (Far as I know and from the website itself, thats probably a Seasonic rebranded PSU: https://www.phanteks.com/Amp-Series.html).

But hey, thats me!
What I was reading I thought cl18 was a bad ram speed and the goal is to get 3600 cl16. Do you know if either of the kits are B-Die? (Of what I understand B-Die is a whole lot easier to overclock and get better mhz and timings) - Im new to OC ram but I am willing to learn!

didn't change the ram but made a couple edits
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nBzBK3
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($269.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: EK EK-AIO Basic 240 77 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Team T-Force Cardea Zero Z330 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card (Purchased For $599.99)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($123.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Noctua P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan ($14.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $1858.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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What I was reading I thought cl18 was a bad ram speed and the goal is to get 3600 cl16. Do you know if either of the kits are B-Die? (Of what I understand B-Die is a whole lot easier to overclock and get better mhz and timings) - Im new to OC ram but I am willing to learn!

didn't change the ram but made a couple edits
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nBzBK3
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($269.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: EK EK-AIO Basic 240 77 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Team T-Force Cardea Zero Z330 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card (Purchased For $599.99)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($123.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Noctua P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan ($14.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $1858.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-07-21 02:52 EDT-0400
OC RAM may or not be easy, and it will be tied to the controller inside your CPU and the RAM chips you get. Its a lottery , but yeah B-dies usually OC better. Im really not sure that kit have b-die, you may try to look around with google to find out.

On the other hand the RAM kit you have chosen is really good, so keep that one if you can afford it.

One piece of advice, leave the overclocking thing for a few months in the furture. First get your PC, intall winwods, drivers, games and the most important thing enjoy it, at least for a few months. Once you are sure everything is working as expect it, and if you really feel you need more performance, try OCing.
 

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OC RAM may or not be easy, and it will be tied to the controller inside your CPU and the RAM chips you get. Its a lottery , but yeah B-dies usually OC better. Im really not sure that kit have b-die, you may try to look around with google to find out.

On the other hand the RAM kit you have chosen is really good, so keep that one if you can afford it.

One piece of advice, leave the overclocking thing for a few months in the furture. First get your PC, intall winwods, drivers, games and the most important thing enjoy it, at least for a few months. Once you are sure everything is working as expect it, and if you really feel you need more performance, try OCing.
How big of an upgrade is a 5800x over a 5600x


PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pd9hQD

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($394.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: EK EK-AIO Basic 240 77 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Team T-Force Cardea Zero Z330 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card (Purchased For $599.99)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($123.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Noctua P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan ($14.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $1983.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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How big of an upgrade is a 5800x over a 5600x


PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pd9hQD

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($394.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: EK EK-AIO Basic 240 77 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Team T-Force Cardea Zero Z330 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card (Purchased For $599.99)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($123.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Noctua P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan ($14.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $1983.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-07-21 16:18 EDT-0400
Well, it all depends on what you need the ystem for.
Your current list with the R5 5600X + 32GB RAM and RTX 3070TI, should be plenty enough for gaming and lightwork (which is not that "light" actually, you could really do video editing, or compile huge pieces of software without issues).

Going with the Ryzen 7 5800X would mean you need to do a lot of multithreading, and I mean a lot.

Gaming wise my Ryzen 5 3600 has eaten without any problem every single game I tried and played. In fact I don't even have the CPB (Core Performance Boost this is like intels turbo boost tech) nor the PBO (Precision Boost OVERDRIVE). This mean I run my R5 3600 at its base speed, and playing games at 1440p I never seen a single issue. The reason, when you play AAA games at ultra settings with a card like mine (RTX 2070) the card will limit the performance, not the CPU.

Is all about balance, and in PC the balance is hard to achieve sometimes, specially with the prices all over the place. Also games gets a lot of patches/updates that can change the way they run on your system and if that wasn't enough you also get drivers updates that can modify the way your GPU perform.
The only thing you can do is hope for the best, and not to overdo in one part. For exmaple, it wont be balance to go with a Core i3 and RTX 3090, but you should be safe for a while by going with a Ryzen 7/9 or Core i7/9 with that RTX 3090. But then again it also depends on the game, the resolution and the graphic settings.

Im sure my R5 3600 could easily run the 3070TI at AAA gaming - 1440p ultra settings, maybe I would have to enable CPB.

This is the best I can do with the time I have and the info you give. You seem to be focusing on gaming, and future proof (I have no clue about the future), both CPUs are great and are at the top of the performance charts, figthing without issues with the cores i9 and ryzen 9.
Only time will tell if those extra cores/threads of the R7 5800X will become important.
 

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Well, it all depends on what you need the ystem for.
Your current list with the R5 5600X + 32GB RAM and RTX 3070TI, should be plenty enough for gaming and lightwork (which is not that "light" actually, you could really do video editing, or compile huge pieces of software without issues).

Going with the Ryzen 7 5800X would mean you need to do a lot of multithreading, and I mean a lot.

Gaming wise my Ryzen 5 3600 has eaten without any problem every single game I tried and played. In fact I don't even have the CPB (Core Performance Boost this is like intels turbo boost tech) nor the PBO (Precision Boost OVERDRIVE). This mean I run my R5 3600 at its base speed, and playing games at 1440p I never seen a single issue. The reason, when you play AAA games at ultra settings with a card like mine (RTX 2070) the card will limit the performance, not the CPU.

Is all about balance, and in PC the balance is hard to achieve sometimes, specially with the prices all over the place. Also games gets a lot of patches/updates that can change the way they run on your system and if that wasn't enough you also get drivers updates that can modify the way your GPU perform.
The only thing you can do is hope for the best, and not to overdo in one part. For exmaple, it wont be balance to go with a Core i3 and RTX 3090, but you should be safe for a while by going with a Ryzen 7/9 or Core i7/9 with that RTX 3090. But then again it also depends on the game, the resolution and the graphic settings.

Im sure my R5 3600 could easily run the 3070TI at AAA gaming - 1440p ultra settings, maybe I would have to enable CPB.

This is the best I can do with the time I have and the info you give. You seem to be focusing on gaming, and future proof (I have no clue about the future), both CPUs are great and are at the top of the performance charts, figthing without issues with the cores i9 and ryzen 9.
Only time will tell if those extra cores/threads of the R7 5800X will become important.
Ok thank you. I think I’ll prob stick with a 5600x as I don’t plan to do much in the plan of multithreaded activities. I might do some streaming but not a lot
 

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