First time build - Does GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP work with xeon e3-1230v2

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Nodrog01

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Building a small budget video/photo editing machine with casual gaming.

The requirements for my build are
1. Case size must be less than 9" x 14" x 22".
2. Has space to upgrade to 32gb Ram
3. Can hold at least 4 HDD / 1 SSD's and 1 Optical Drive
4. No Intention currently of overclocking.
5. System must run cool and quiet
6. Must support at least 1 Video Card and usb 3.0
7. Budget is under $1200

CPU - Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler - Noctua NH-L12 37.8 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory - Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage - Crucial m4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
- Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Bay Converter - SilverStone SDP08 2 x 2.5" to 3.5" Bay Converter
GPU - Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card
Case -Cooler Master Elite 343 (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply - SeaSonic 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V
Optical Drive - Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer
Operating System - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)

I have left over hdd's from previous computers that i am using as well.

So I guess my question are

Will there be any problems with compatibility with this build?

Is this CPU going to cause me problems since it is a server CPU?($100 < i7 3770k)

Would it be less trouble to get the i7 3770k and a lower budget GPU since this is mainly a media editing PC?
 
What's the primary use of this build going to be? You're better off not buying a Xeon for gaming or multimedia applications (Adobe CS5/6, Autodesk Suite, etc). Only very rare circumstances would I recommend a Xeon.
 
Nodrog01,

The Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP motherboard does appear to have good features at a reasonable price. However, it's listed as supporting i3, i5, and i7's using the LGA 1155 socket, but does not mention compatibility with any Xeon. Doing a search > "Xeon E3" on Newegg in "motherboards" yields>

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006654&IsNodeId=1&Description=Xeon%20E3&bop=And&Order=RATING&PageSize=20

While I am a Xeon enthusiast, I have to partially second comments by g-unit1111 to the degree that Xeons should be selected according to the type and degree of use. You can go a long way in certain workstation uses with an i7 and a GTX, but for certain intensive uses that require very high precision > 3D CAD, CAD simulations like fluidic, structural, thermal, image processing, GCI animation, video processing, and etc., I would always steer in a Xeon > ECC RAM > Quadro direction. However, all those words are more expensive and may not have benefits in your uses. Because Xeons and Quadros are quality, precision, and reliability oriented instead of speed oriented, they are generally not as good at gaming.

A couple of other comments> For this type of system, I also am a believer in using the largest format motherboards, having the largest case that fits your space- roomy for building, good air circulation, expandable for drives. For imaging systems, the monitor is highly important and for video sound editing so is the soundcard and sound monitoring. So, to rephrase the comment by g-unit1111, "What's the primary use of this build going to be?" > Think about the applications your using in order of use, whether you're doing processing, rendering, editing, etc., and generally the file sizes.

Overall, the system you listed earlier, but substituting an Xeon E3 with an i7-3770K would probably work very well. Only, as you apparently have a lot of large files and HD's, I'd still recommend at least a one step larger case if you have room. And, if you're adventurous, consider buying the GPU used and finding a GTX 670 with 256-bit and 4GB, or the GTX 580 which is 384-bit, 512 CUDA, and in the 3GB version is said to be very good at video editing.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

 
While I am a Xeon enthusiast, I have to partially second comments by g-unit1111 to the degree that Xeons should be selected according to the type and degree of use. You can go a long way in certain workstation uses with an i7 and a GTX, but for certain intensive uses that require very high precision > 3D CAD, CAD simulations like fluidic, structural, thermal, image processing, GCI animation, video processing, and etc., I would always steer in a Xeon > ECC RAM > Quadro direction. However, all those words are more expensive and may not have benefits in your uses. Because Xeons and Quadros are quality, precision, and reliability oriented instead of speed oriented, they are generally not as good at gaming.
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Yeah I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this. Just because PC Part Picker lists Xeon processors now does not mean you need to include them in your rigs. I wouldn't pair a Xeon with anything but a dedicated workstation board and ECC RAM with a professional GPU, because that is when you really start to see the benefits. I would not in any circumstances recommend them for a gaming rig, and I don't know where this madness got started but it's got to stop.
 


I see what you are saying, but isnt the Xeon E3-1230 v2 basically an i7 3770 without the iGPU for cheaper? I dont see why it wouldnt be recommended if someone wants a i7 3770 (non k) but doesn't need integrated graphics...

Dont mistake it for the high(er) end E5 Xeons...
 
The Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP motherboard does appear to have good features at a reasonable price. However, it's listed as supporting i3, i5, and i7's using the LGA 1155 socket, but does not mention compatibility with any Xeon. Doing a search > "Xeon E3" on Newegg in "motherboards" yields>

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
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Read here: http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4192

All xeon CPU is supported.

While I am a Xeon enthusiast, I have to partially second comments by g-unit1111 to the degree that Xeons should be selected according to the type and degree of use. You can go a long way in certain workstation uses with an i7 and a GTX, but for certain intensive uses that require very high precision > 3D CAD, CAD simulations like fluidic, structural, thermal, image processing, GCI animation, video processing, and etc., I would always steer in a Xeon > ECC RAM > Quadro direction. However, all those words are more expensive and may not have benefits in your uses. Because Xeons and Quadros are quality, precision, and reliability oriented instead of speed oriented, they are generally not as good at gaming.
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Why need ECC RAM with this build? Is xeon e3 going to work only with ECC memory? Kind of wondering my own build with xeon issue. I was thinking mITX or mATX build with xeon.

i wouldnt see why you wouldnt recommend a xeon for wrokstation usage. they are the same chips. only until you throw them on a server board that they start making a difference
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can you give a more precise answer to why not xeon for a gaming machine? I have seen multiple treads that do recommend that xeon for a gaming pc. Is there something they do not know? That you do?

You're better off not buying a Xeon for gaming or multimedia applications (Adobe CS5/6, Autodesk Suite, etc). Only very rare circumstances would I recommend a Xeon.
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And this? Why I'm better off not buying xeon for gaming or multimedia apps? Some other forums will tell the exact opposite information. They tell you to buy the xeon. Why is this? I have been reading couple months treads of this xeon cpu and this is really confused too read other things in other forums and other things in other place.

So please tell more of this xeon. Why it is not a good buy?







 


Sort of. The thing is by forfeiting the integrated graphics you lose a diagnostic tool. This is especially helpful if you plan to game or use your system for anything that's multimedia intensive. I still would not use a Xeon for any purpose but a true dedicated workstation. The motherboards and RAM that take full advantage of these CPUs are significantly more expensive than a regular Z77 motherboard is.
 
xeon CPUs were meant for server boards and ecc memory. if you dont include those, the xeon turns right back into a regular desktop chip. there isnt anything wrong with it anyways. if this was for gaming, id suggest a i5 3470 since its a fair bit cheaper and you dont need the threads. but then if you were doing some video work for a lower budget, you may as well grab the xeon
 


The Primary use is going to to be photo/video editing, some 3d CAD, and minor gaming...
I am new to this build your own idea, I looked on gigabytes sight at the motherboard CPU Support List(http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4328#) and it showed "Intel Xeon E3-1230v2" on its list. Does this mean that it is supported? I want this build to be relatively straight forward since it is my first.
I initially had the i7 3770k for a CPU, but I was steered towards the xeon because i was not going to OC and because it was <$100 than the i7 for the same performance.
Another question, if i used non ECC RAM Would the Performance be comparable to the i7 3770k still or would it drop off?
 


The thing is, the Xeon is CHEAPER.

The Xeon in question is $234
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117286

The i7 3770 is $279
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116502

If you arent overclocking and arent interested in iGPU, the Xeon is a great CPU for the money even for gaming.

I say it again, DONT CONFUSE THE E3 XEONS WITH THE HIGH END E5 XEONS.
 


The E3 Xeon in question is CHEAPER than an i7 and will work fine without ECC RAM.

 


i know. i can tell the difference when i have recommended a ton of them before. i do my research
 



Sorry buddy, quoted the wrong person.
 


Since I am using a dedicated GPU how will not having a integrated GPU affect my performance for Video/and 3d rendering?

 


It wont. The iGPU is effectively disabled when you use a dedicated GPU anyway.

 


what do this were meant server bords and ecc memory mean? this xeon is regular desktop chip? it is same chip that the 3770 is. That they do tell in other forums. That it works fine with all 1155 mobos and all memory that are supported by your mobo. Are they trolling or are you?



 
this is how a xeon chip works. in the hardware department, they are the same chips (same die, same transistors everything). but the thing with xeons is that they are binned for the lower temperatures and reliability.

if you plug a xeon labeled chip into a regular board, it will function like a regular consumer chip. but once you plug it into a server board, it will become a true xeon and it will support ecc ram

there is nothing complicated about it.
 
they tell you its the same thing as a i7 3770 because it is the same thing in the hardware department and they would like to show you that it will peform the same, but in the right motherboard and software, they are completely different
 


Most Xeons are meant for server chipsets and ECC RAM, but this Xeon is basically a workstation CPU which is almost identical to the i7 3770. However, this Xeon does support ECC Ram with the correct motherboard chipset, but its not a requirement.

 




so the main difference between the i7 3770 and the xeon e3-1230v2 is the i7 has a igpu which draws more Wattage so it runs hotter. So the Xeon runs cooler with no loss of performance since i am using a Dedicated GPU.
 


pretty much yes for what you are using it for. for the IGPU part however, its not that it doesnt exist on a e3 1230v2, but its either that intel lazed it off or it was defective from the start
 


So I can build pc with xeon and there is no issue with programs and other stuff if I m using a 1155 mobo?
It will work fine? Or is it better to take 3570k same price.

so the main difference between the i7 3770 and the xeon e3-1230v2 is the i7 has a igpu which draws more Wattage so it runs hotter. So the Xeon runs cooler with no loss of performance since i am using a Dedicated GPU.
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So it is better in small case like mITX case? Because it is cooler? Nice :)
 


yes you are fine with a xeon. there is nothing that is changed until you slap a server board with the CPU. its not optimal for you to get a i5. it performs worse for what you are doing

yes it might be better for itx but then most itx cases can cool their CPUs well enoigh
 
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