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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 18:07:33 +0100, Henrik Dissing
<sorry@drowned.in.spam.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:19:24 +0000, Palindrome wrote:
>
>>Yes, I agree - the wordless invite, oft-repeated in spite of no LFG
>>tag really bugs me.
>>
>>Strange, I thought I'd be a loner with that gripe, and that others
>>would think I was weird 😀
>
>Well, I do think you're all weird, actually ;-)
>
>It's an invitation, for crying out loud. Where's the insult in that?

They ask silently for me to join, I silently refuse. No problem. It's
when the meatball clicks "invite" several more times that I get pissed
off... Then they get /ignored forever.

In any case, if I have no LFG tag showing, it means I do not want a
group. Great thing, that LFG thing - if I want a group, I use it 😉



Palindrome
 
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:45:17 -0600, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote:

><damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 11:37:50 -0600, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote:
>>
>> ><myfirstname@thecomdomaincalledSHADOWPIKE> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Faned" <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:slrncvlcvj.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net...
>> >>
>> >> > No, he owned up to it after trying to avoid doing so (obviously with good
>> >> > reason). If he had seriously wanted to lie about it, he would still be
>> >> > lying about it and in the guild. Gives new meaning to "the truth with set
>> >> > you free" and definitely convinced "Wiggo" to not bother telling the truth
>> >> > next time, because he knows how that turns out. =P
>> >>
>> >> Anyone who comes to that conclusion has learned the wrong lesson, but I
>> >> don't doubt it's what he'll take away from this.
>> >
>> >The "wrong lesson" can still be the "right lesson". Believe me, I was
>> >implying that it was the wrong lesson, but in dealing with you it is
>> >apparently still the "right lesson" because owning up to and apologizing for
>> >something is obviously *not* the "right" thing to do.
>>
>> He did not own up out of his own accord. His little rat brain was
>> cudgeling itself for a way out, and he realised he'd backed himself
>> into a corner.
>
>Excuse me while I choose not to believe your claims of psychic powers. =P

If I'd made any, I'd excuse you. Somebody should 😉



Palindrome
 
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<damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:45:17 -0600, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote:
>
> ><damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 11:37:50 -0600, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> ><myfirstname@thecomdomaincalledSHADOWPIKE> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Faned" <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:slrncvlcvj.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net...
> >> >>
> >> >> > No, he owned up to it after trying to avoid doing so (obviously with good
> >> >> > reason). If he had seriously wanted to lie about it, he would still be
> >> >> > lying about it and in the guild. Gives new meaning to "the truth with set
> >> >> > you free" and definitely convinced "Wiggo" to not bother telling the truth
> >> >> > next time, because he knows how that turns out. =P
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyone who comes to that conclusion has learned the wrong lesson, but I
> >> >> don't doubt it's what he'll take away from this.
> >> >
> >> >The "wrong lesson" can still be the "right lesson". Believe me, I was
> >> >implying that it was the wrong lesson, but in dealing with you it is
> >> >apparently still the "right lesson" because owning up to and apologizing for
> >> >something is obviously *not* the "right" thing to do.
> >>
> >> He did not own up out of his own accord. His little rat brain was
> >> cudgeling itself for a way out, and he realised he'd backed himself
> >> into a corner.
> >
> >Excuse me while I choose not to believe your claims of psychic powers. =P
>
> If I'd made any, I'd excuse you. Somebody should 😉

You told me what his brain was doing. In your own words, "his little rat
brain was cudgeling itself"...

Projection, claims of psychic powers, the voice of god, it matters not. You
don't know because it's simply impossible to know with any degree of
certainty. =P
 
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:02:12 -0600 in
<slrncvo5dr.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net>, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> graced
the world with this thought:

><tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:43:25 -0600 in
>> <slrncvlce6.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net>, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> graced
>> the world with this thought:
>>
>> ><foxeye@EEKSPAM.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Faned wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > <myfirstname@thecomdomaincalledSHADOWPIKE> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I told the guy I would discuss with the officer team and get back to him.
>> >> > > Not much to discuss, but we did, and the next day I de-guilded the guy.
>> >> >
>> >> > Congratulations on de-guilding someone who broke no rules and then actually
>> >> > apologized in spite of not having broken any rules. =P
>> >>
>> >> OMG, yes, because apologies are SO hard to make. Typing out words you
>> >> might never mean or stand behind is a hard task, and that guy should be
>> >> given a lot of respect for this.
>> >>
>> >> /sarcasm off
>> >>
>> >> Given the guy lied several times, how in the world could anyone accept his
>> >> apologies? The whole idea behind an apology is that someone BELIEVES that
>> >> you are actually ashamed/regretful.
>> >
>> >You've shown me the error in my ways. I can't imagine why anyone would ever
>> >BELIEVE any apology. It's just words. =)
>>
>> Sorry I beat and raped your mother.
>
>Man... I know what my mother looks like. I BELIEVE that you are sorry...
>
>I also question your taste...

Funny, she always speaks highly of you.
 
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<tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:02:12 -0600 in
> <slrncvo5dr.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net>, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> graced
> the world with this thought:
>
> ><tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:43:25 -0600 in
> >> <slrncvlce6.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net>, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> graced
> >> the world with this thought:
> >>
> >> ><foxeye@EEKSPAM.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Faned wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > <myfirstname@thecomdomaincalledSHADOWPIKE> wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I told the guy I would discuss with the officer team and get back to him.
> >> >> > > Not much to discuss, but we did, and the next day I de-guilded the guy.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Congratulations on de-guilding someone who broke no rules and then actually
> >> >> > apologized in spite of not having broken any rules. =P
> >> >>
> >> >> OMG, yes, because apologies are SO hard to make. Typing out words you
> >> >> might never mean or stand behind is a hard task, and that guy should be
> >> >> given a lot of respect for this.
> >> >>
> >> >> /sarcasm off
> >> >>
> >> >> Given the guy lied several times, how in the world could anyone accept his
> >> >> apologies? The whole idea behind an apology is that someone BELIEVES that
> >> >> you are actually ashamed/regretful.
> >> >
> >> >You've shown me the error in my ways. I can't imagine why anyone would ever
> >> >BELIEVE any apology. It's just words. =)
> >>
> >> Sorry I beat and raped your mother.
> >
> >Man... I know what my mother looks like. I BELIEVE that you are sorry...
> >
> >I also question your taste...
>
> Funny, she always speaks highly of you.

We were talking about my mother, not yours...
 
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:00:10 -0600, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote:

>> I bet you could cut the sincerity with a knife 😉 I used to think
>> Faned had sense...
>>
>>
>> Palindrome
>
>I have unwavering morals and ethics, even when they may be unpopular. I
>personally consider it a virtue. =)

Stupidity and gullibility on a scale you demonstrate borders on
insanity, not virtue.

>I'm not buying bizbee's claims of psychic powers either. The guy's motives
>and sincerity are entirely in his own head, and always will be. There was
>an option of giving him a chance to prove his sincerity, and then there was
>the option taken.

So, why do you try and guess what was in HIS head and in the original
poster's? The option taken, based on the guy's lamentable performance
so far, was the best one. Your bleeding heart notwithstanding.


Palindrome
 
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<damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:00:10 -0600, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote:
>
> >> I bet you could cut the sincerity with a knife 😉 I used to think
> >> Faned had sense...
> >>
> >>
> >> Palindrome
> >
> >I have unwavering morals and ethics, even when they may be unpopular. I
> >personally consider it a virtue. =)
>
> Stupidity and gullibility on a scale you demonstrate borders on
> insanity, not virtue.

I don't think at least one of those words means what you think it means...

> >I'm not buying bizbee's claims of psychic powers either. The guy's motives
> >and sincerity are entirely in his own head, and always will be. There was
> >an option of giving him a chance to prove his sincerity, and then there was
> >the option taken.
>
> So, why do you try and guess what was in HIS head and in the original
> poster's? The option taken, based on the guy's lamentable performance
> so far, was the best one. Your bleeding heart notwithstanding.

I don't try and guess what was in his head. Simple as that.
 
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:56:23 -0600 in
<slrncvo52u.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net>, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> graced
the world with this thought:

><damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:13:20 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:50:38 -0800 in
>> ><10vnth863oaan88@news.supernews.com>, "Bob Perez"
>> ><myfirstname@thecomdomaincalledSHADOWPIKE> graced the world with this
>> >thought:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>"Faned" <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote in message
>> >>news:slrncvnilh.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net...
>> >>
>> >>> I assume, and the facts of the situation certainly suggest that assumption
>> >>> to be valid, that he knew there would be issues, and knew that Bob had no
>> >>> inclination to forgive, and would rather not bring it up at all if it
>> >>> could
>> >>> be avoided.
>> >>
>> >>I don't think the facts as I've related them give any basis for an
>> >>assumption that I could not forgive lol, where do you get that?
>> >
>> >Making it up as he goes along because he's getting his dumb ass
>> >pounded into the floor here.
>>
>> Yup, he's had all of... NO people agree with him.
>>
>>
>>
>> Palindrome
>
>Nobody but you. =P

I'm not sure I've seen anyone this plowed this early in the day for
quite a while.
Well, off to the ol' KF for another 30, maybe you'll grow up enough to
quit babbling just to see your own name in print.
But I doubt it.
 
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<tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:56:23 -0600 in
> <slrncvo52u.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net>, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> graced
> the world with this thought:
>
> ><damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:13:20 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:50:38 -0800 in
> >> ><10vnth863oaan88@news.supernews.com>, "Bob Perez"
> >> ><myfirstname@thecomdomaincalledSHADOWPIKE> graced the world with this
> >> >thought:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>"Faned" <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote in message
> >> >>news:slrncvnilh.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net...
> >> >>
> >> >>> I assume, and the facts of the situation certainly suggest that assumption
> >> >>> to be valid, that he knew there would be issues, and knew that Bob had no
> >> >>> inclination to forgive, and would rather not bring it up at all if it
> >> >>> could
> >> >>> be avoided.
> >> >>
> >> >>I don't think the facts as I've related them give any basis for an
> >> >>assumption that I could not forgive lol, where do you get that?
> >> >
> >> >Making it up as he goes along because he's getting his dumb ass
> >> >pounded into the floor here.
> >>
> >> Yup, he's had all of... NO people agree with him.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Palindrome
> >
> >Nobody but you. =P
>
> I'm not sure I've seen anyone this plowed this early in the day for
> quite a while.
> Well, off to the ol' KF for another 30, maybe you'll grow up enough to
> quit babbling just to see your own name in print.
> But I doubt it.

Ahh biz, you know I keep you out of my killfile just for the amusement of
seeing you rail against the various and sundry. Of all the people that read
and post to this group, you are at the very bottom of the list of people I
have an interest in having an actual discussion with. =P

(Post intentionally written in such a way that the first time bizbee will
see it is when he's trolling back over old posts on Google, so he can steam
without the option of responding.) =)
 
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:26:34 +0000 in
<6b3ov0t1779u3m9auhi67s43g4dklqh9e8@4ax.com>, Palindrome
<damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> graced the world with this thought:


>I bet you could cut the sincerity with a knife 😉 I used to think
>Faned had sense...
>
>
>Palindrome

This is about his fourth trip into my KF, just for the sheer lameness
of brainlessly arguing and posting todays equivalent of the content of
the old AOL <me too!> posts. Nothing like dl'ing thirty messages, and
twenty of them are from some idiot calling people names and
disagreeing just to disagree. It's almost like having Taras here
again.
 
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Quoth Faned :

> I assume, and the facts of the situation certainly suggest that
> assumption to be valid, that he knew there would be issues, and knew
> that Bob had no inclination to forgive, and would rather not bring it
> up at all if it could be avoided.

Just out of curiosity... would you welcome this guy in YOUR guild, or
are you just playing Devil's Advocate for a bit of sport?

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<david@alcaudon.com> wrote:
> Quoth Faned :
>
> > I assume, and the facts of the situation certainly suggest that
> > assumption to be valid, that he knew there would be issues, and knew
> > that Bob had no inclination to forgive, and would rather not bring it
> > up at all if it could be avoided.
>
> Just out of curiosity... would you welcome this guy in YOUR guild, or
> are you just playing Devil's Advocate for a bit of sport?

Necessarily playing devil's advocate, as A) my guild takes level 70 players
in EQ, and B) my guild has an unsurpassable screening process, and if you
get in you're in until you do something to get removed *while* in.
 
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On 30 Jan 2005 01:56:28 GMT, David Navarro <david@alcaudon.com> wrote:

>Quoth Faned :
>
>> I assume, and the facts of the situation certainly suggest that
>> assumption to be valid, that he knew there would be issues, and knew
>> that Bob had no inclination to forgive, and would rather not bring it
>> up at all if it could be avoided.
>
>Just out of curiosity... would you welcome this guy in YOUR guild, or
>are you just playing Devil's Advocate for a bit of sport?

Given his style in this discussion, I'd call that a nice way of saying
"trolling". 😛

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"Faned" <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote in message
news:slrncvok19.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net...
> <davian@nospammindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> > "Faned" <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote in message
> > news:slrncvo500.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net...

> > > That may be the most bizarre response my posts in this thread have
gotten
> > > yet. It's *obvious* you didn't forgive him, otherwise your original
story
> > > would have had a different ending.
> >
> > Get ye to a dictionary and don't come back until you learn the difference
> > between "Did not" and "Could not".
>
> So Bob had a gun to his head, so he "could not" forgive the guy?

Allow me to spell it out for you. Just because he did not forgive the guy
does not directly translate to "could not."

> Oh wow, I *do* know the difference... and meant what I said.

No, you apparently don't.


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"Faned" <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote in message
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> "Had no inclination to forgive" doesn't insinuate being incapable.

What it does insinuate is that my lack of forgiveness was a foregone
conclusion and there's nothing that would suggest that other than your own
predisposition toward that conclusion.

> It may all come back around to simply following policies. In which case,
> I
> personally still wouldn't agree with your actions. He got past your
> screening. You then kicked him out with no provocation.

LOL you're a piece of work, Faned. I could try and point out how transparent
are your stubborn attempts to rationalize your unfortunate starting position
in this discussion, but the ref is about to call me for piling on. ;-)
Signing off.

--
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<Veritas>
Dwarven Mystic and Alchemist
Loyal Citizen of the Antonia Bayle
Current resident of the Willow Wood, City of Qeynos
http://veritas.everquest2guilds.com

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<Resolution, Retired>
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"Faned" <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote in message
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> Necessarily playing devil's advocate, as A) my guild takes level 70
> players
> in EQ, and B) my guild has an unsurpassable screening process, and if you
> get in you're in until you do something to get removed *while* in.

I wasn't planning to respond to any more of your posts because I think
you're just being childishly stubborn now, but there's one more comment to
make in light of this message. One of the dynamics that's in play here is
that the EQ2 world is very different from the EQ world you're familiar with.
The servers are still young and guilds are still in their most embyronic
stages just getting off the ground. Your "unsurpassable screening process"
may be relevant in EQ, but it doesn't exist in this context and that
difference is one of the reasons you're having trouble connecting with my
reality.

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<Veritas>
Dwarven Mystic and Alchemist
Loyal Citizen of the Antonia Bayle
Current resident of the Willow Wood, City of Qeynos
http://veritas.everquest2guilds.com

Descendant of the Elder Winterfury Thunderwolf
<Resolution, Retired>
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"Faned" <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote in message
news:slrncvku6j.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net...
> <myfirstname@thecomdomaincalledSHADOWPIKE> wrote:
>>
>> I told the guy I would discuss with the officer team and get back to him.
>> Not much to discuss, but we did, and the next day I de-guilded the guy.
>
> Congratulations on de-guilding someone who broke no rules and then
> actually
> apologized in spite of not having broken any rules. =P

His apology didnt cut it. I think most people would feel that way.
 
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Palindrome <damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
] On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 07:55:52 -0600, D.J. <jolly73@boingcableone.net>
] wrote:
] >Sometimes my having 'no guild invites' or what ever it is, don't
] >remember offhand, puts a message up that someone's 'wanna group'
] >request was automatically ignored.
]
] Hmmm, now THAT I must try out :)

I'll log in and check, ah its,

alt-o, generaltab, deselct 'receive guild invites'.

Its worked twice that I have noticed.

JimP.
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In article <5f3ov0hlr4iqi5p6s2pmcaok8uq94dkrk9@4ax.com>, damon-
nomad@tiscali.co.uk says...

> They ask silently for me to join, I silently refuse. No problem. It's
> when the meatball clicks "invite" several more times that I get pissed
> off... Then they get /ignored forever.
>
> In any case, if I have no LFG tag showing, it means I do not want a
> group.

A lot of people who aren't lfg are willing to group.

I agree a drive by click-invite is a big "don't", but I get tremendously
good results with a simple polite tell asking if they'd be interested in
joining forces, or better still an in person 'say' during their
downtime. (I always do it from the same zone, usually within sight of
them) Sometimes they decline but never has anyone given me a line about
how if they were lfg they'd have their tag up.

I do love ignoring those guys that 'hover' near a group though, ooc'ing
"classX LFG" over and over. If they actually ask us (rare occurance)...
they are usually invited.

My absolute favorite though is this coming through on ooc over a 10
minute span:

....
Monk 50 LFG
Warrior 49 LFG
Cleric 44 LFG
Warrior 49 LFG
Cleric 44 LFG
Monk 50 LFG
Warrior 49 LFG
Cleric 49 LFG
Monk 50 LFG
....

Come on people... its not rocket science.

:)
 
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:10:02 GMT, 42 <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>A lot of people who aren't lfg are willing to group.
>
>I agree a drive by click-invite is a big "don't", but I get tremendously
>good results with a simple polite tell asking if they'd be interested in
>joining forces, or better still an in person 'say' during their
>downtime. (I always do it from the same zone, usually within sight of
>them) Sometimes they decline but never has anyone given me a line about
>how if they were lfg they'd have their tag up.

You see, that's fine, that's not what I'm complaining about. What I'm
complaining about is when I'm off hunting solo and, usually in the
middle of a fight, BOOM! Group invite. This isn't confined to EQ or
newbie levels. I had it happen a lot in the level 40-50 zones in CoH.
In fact, I had it more often there than in the newbie zones,
surprisingly enough.

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 02:19:07 -0800, "Bob Perez"
<myfirstname@thecomdomaincalledSHADOWPIKE> wrote:

>
>"Faned" <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote in message
>news:slrncvokgn.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net...
>
>> "Had no inclination to forgive" doesn't insinuate being incapable.
>
>What it does insinuate is that my lack of forgiveness was a foregone
>conclusion and there's nothing that would suggest that other than your own
>predisposition toward that conclusion.
>
>> It may all come back around to simply following policies. In which case,
>> I
>> personally still wouldn't agree with your actions. He got past your
>> screening. You then kicked him out with no provocation.
>
>LOL you're a piece of work, Faned. I could try and point out how transparent
>are your stubborn attempts to rationalize your unfortunate starting position
>in this discussion, but the ref is about to call me for piling on. ;-)
>Signing off.

Yes, he's had no-one agree with him, so with all his other ramblings
he's just flapping his gums whilst he pisses into the wind. I agree
with you - I think we should leave him there, alone, with his most
appreciative audience....



Palindrome
 
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 20:49:44 -0600, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote:

>> >> He did not own up out of his own accord. His little rat brain was
>> >> cudgeling itself for a way out, and he realised he'd backed himself
>> >> into a corner.
>> >
>> >Excuse me while I choose not to believe your claims of psychic powers. =P
>>
>> If I'd made any, I'd excuse you. Somebody should 😉
>
>You told me what his brain was doing. In your own words, "his little rat
>brain was cudgeling itself"...

Trust me, that is down to understanding human nature, not "psychic
powers" 😀 You analyse someone's past actions, draw suitable
conclusions, then use those conclusions to assess how he will behave
in future. If - as we all have - the likelihood seems he will be just
as big a wanker in future, you bin him. You aren't familiar with
understanding human nature, obviously...

'Bye Faned - enjoy yourself out there 😉)


Palindrome
 
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42 <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in news:MPG.1c665253fe2995479899e5
@shawnews:

> In article <5f3ov0hlr4iqi5p6s2pmcaok8uq94dkrk9@4ax.com>, damon-
> nomad@tiscali.co.uk says...
>
>> They ask silently for me to join, I silently refuse. No
problem. It's
>> when the meatball clicks "invite" several more times that I get
pissed
>> off... Then they get /ignored forever.
>>
>> In any case, if I have no LFG tag showing, it means I do not
want a
>> group.
>
> A lot of people who aren't lfg are willing to group.
>
> I agree a drive by click-invite is a big "don't", but I get
tremendously
> good results with a simple polite tell asking if they'd be
interested in
> joining forces, or better still an in person 'say' during their
> downtime. (I always do it from the same zone, usually within
sight of
> them) Sometimes they decline but never has anyone given me a
line about
> how if they were lfg they'd have their tag up.
>
> I do love ignoring those guys that 'hover' near a group though,
ooc'ing
> "classX LFG" over and over. If they actually ask us (rare
occurance)...
> they are usually invited.
>
> My absolute favorite though is this coming through on ooc over a
10
> minute span:

My most frequent pickup groups in EQ came from running to camp
spots and simply /say Hey guys, anyone here need a 65 mage?

if no response, wave and head out.

if I got a "we're full, sorry" type response
DS tank, mod rod the obvious casters, wave and head out

Often, however I got an invite, or a tell later to see
if I was still looking.

I did, get an unexpected invite from someone in WoW a while
back that I really appreciated. Got jumped by hogger on my
warrior and was about to beat feet when I got a heal and a group
invite - obviously a group thinking of taking him. I accepted,
we dropped him and everyone got their piece to finish the quest.

--
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Feral Lord Bosra Snowclaw
Lanys T'vyl (Retired)

Mairelon, 15th Paladin
Silverhand

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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:34:06 -0500, "Charles Whitney"
<cbillingsw@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"Faned" <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote in message
>news:slrncvo4q8.8ne.faned@wyld.qx.net...
>> <darktiger@somewhere.net> wrote:
>
>>> He lied on more than one occasion. First was a lie through omission.
>>> Second was a blatant, bald-faced lie.
>>
>> Quote from the original post to support your contention that he "only got
>> into the guild based on that lie". Here's the relevant portion so you
>> don't
>> even have to look it up:
>
>>> The Monk who wanted to sponsor him
>>> said "He doesn't want to post, he just wants to talk to someone".
>>>
>>> Me: "Um, there's a reason for the process we have in place, a post is a
>>> good
>>> way for people in the guild who haven't grouped with him to get to know
>>> something about him"
>>> Sponsor: "He's not big on words"
>
>There's your lie of omission.
>
>> But I see that you already realized your error and now claim simply a "lie
>> through omission." I won't start down that slippery slope, but I'll
>> gladly
>> follow along dropping boulders the entire time should you decide to lead
>> the
>> way. =)
>
>Just have to point out that you completely ignored the fact that he
>blatantly lied to Bob later, which was the bigger deal and certainly
>sufficient on its own to deguild him. Why did you omit that? Cat ran off
>with your balls in its mouth? =)

Faned omits anything that doesn't fit with his "turn the other cheek
and forgive" pose. His standard answer to anything.


Palindrome
 
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 20:55:11 -0600, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote:

>In a world filled with illiterates, the inane arguments that someone with an
>actual grasp of the intricacies of the english language must deal with are
>numerous. I realize the concept that "got into the guild based on that lie"
>*must* apply to a lie *before* he got into the guild may be hard to grasp,
>but perhaps you can look up those two words and understand the point. =P

Ah, he realises he's a loser, and is now shifting his argument to
semantics 😀 Oh dear, how sad.

>And cat tongues are rough. Ask your girl.

....and yet another sign he's losing - he resorts to insults in a
further attempted distraction!! My, how the puny have fallen.


Palindrome