For Now, DirectX 11.1 Will Only Be for Windows 8

[blazorthon]

Microsoft is killing PC gaming. Not everyone wants Windows 8.
I have Windows 7, I'm happy with it and I won't upgrade to Windows 8.

How is MS killing PC gaming? The only difference on the gaming front is that there is a slightly updated form of DX11 from what I understand of DX11.1 and that it has additional software distribution platforms. In no way do these hurt gaming.

I have put in some serious time with Windows 8, I'm a software engineer and MSDN Ultimate subscription (yes the $11,300/yr one where I get everything and anything Microsoft). I don't consider my brain "Tiny" as I've been paid well to write software for over 30+ years. But since neither you nor "beetlejuicegr" actually provided an technical details of DX11.1 implementations and even admit to "lagspike" and "strange freezes" ... this is good how? So your suggesting we all agree with someone (beetlejuicergr) that can't even get a stable overclock working with Windows 8??

But anyway, back to specific details on DX11.1 with it's "enhanced WARP support". Do you even know what WARP is? It's a software rasterizer -- it's used for situations where there is no hardware acceleration available (either physically or supported by the driver) - WARP is a software fallback and is definitely NOT the desired usage (for performance situations).

As for Windows 8 and why people "think" it's faster:
1. Startup is now more threaded, meaning stuff is still load after you get to the start screen
2. There is no Aero, no shading on any window, everything is FLAT 2D, almost no gradients anywhere
3. Fresh new installs always "feel" faster, this has been true for every new version of Windows OS, start to load up the registry and add more and more applications and it slows down

Anyway, the market will bare out the success or failure of Windows 8, so far it's "true usage" (not the meaningless pre-sales, and pre-installed sales numbers) is far far far less than Vista, and Vista was a pretty bad news for Microsoft.

I don't use Aero on most of my systems and even in clean install comparisons, I've noticed lower install time and boot time than 7 as well as it being more responsive. Maybe it's just the startup being more threaded, but the cause doesn't seem relevant in that (at least to the best of my knowledge) it can't be reproduced in Windows 7 installations except by MS.

 

[thrasher32]

Ahh, you're an IE user who doesn't use any non-MS software. Sorry, I didn't realize that anyone with such a viewpoint as someone who doesn't care about third party software such as Firefox/Chrome/Opera/other web browsers, games, non-MS office sweets, non-MS compression/decompression software, etc, would care about Windows 8 needing that for a start menu that has no functionality used by such people that isn't present in the Metro menu, sidebar, and hotkeys.

Congratulations, every one of your assumptions is incorrect, especially the pugnacious one that you know any more/are smarter than me. Yeah, I know lots of guys like you, gaseous windbags all full of delusional self importance. You need to find someone else to talk down to, I'll take you down.

 

[blazorthon]

Congratulations, every one of your assumptions is incorrect, especially the pugnacious one that you know any more/are smarter than me. Yeah, I know lots of guys like you, gaseous windbags all full of delusional self importance. You need to find someone else to talk down to, I'll take you down.

Actually they weren't assumptions, simply applying your logic to the rest of your software. Naturally, you can pretend what you want, but that you will go out of your way to get other such software and not for a start menu (which is no less easy to do than the rest and is easier than most of it) is beyond ridiculous.

You most certainly don't know anything about me and assuming that you do and acting like some internet tough guy just makes you look like an idiot. You can't do anything about it and even if you could, I'm just some guy on the internet as far as you should be concerned. I most certainly don't have some ridiculous sense of self-importance or else I wouldn't waste my time with such lectures to people either too blindingly proud or too stupid to admit that what they said doesn't work when proper logic is applied.

You say that you don't want any third party junk on your system, yet you fill it with all of that other software should my purported assumptions be incorrect, so it doesn't make any sense why you wouldn't want a program that gives you functionality that you whine about not having. Or, do you simply like to whine about the problem instead of solve it?

Meh, it doesn't matter to me, all I was doing was pointing out how nonsensical your complaint is since it was so ridiculous that I couldn't tell if you were actually honest or just some troll.

 

[thrasher32]

Actually they weren't assumptions, simply applying your logic to the rest of your software. Naturally, you can pretend what you want, but that you will go out of your way to get other such software and not for a start menu (which is no less easy to do than the rest and is easier than most of it) is beyond ridiculous.

You most certainly don't know anything about me and assuming that you do and acting like some internet tough guy just makes you look like an idiot. You can't do anything about it and even if you could, I'm just some guy on the internet as far as you should be concerned. I most certainly don't have some ridiculous sense of self-importance or else I wouldn't waste my time with such lectures to people either too blindingly proud or too stupid to admit that what they said doesn't work when proper logic is applied.

You say that you don't want any third party junk on your system, yet you fill it with all of that other software should my purported assumptions be incorrect, so it doesn't make any sense why you wouldn't want a program that gives you functionality that you whine about not having. Or, do you simply like to whine about the problem instead of solve it?

Meh, it doesn't matter to me, all I was doing was pointing out how nonsensical your complaint is since it was so ridiculous that I couldn't tell if you were actually honest or just some troll.

Yeah bla bla bla great post. All I am saying is stop being a douche.

 

[blazorthon]

Yeah bla bla bla great post. All I am saying is stop being a douche.

Sorry, I haven't entirely kicked my habit of not being respectful to people who've mocked me first.