Question Forced upgrade due to Win 11 requirements and seeking advise on component longevity

[GARRIGA]

My X99 build is from 2015 based on DDR4 and looking to reuse some components to save money and because I really love my case. Curious if any can have longer life expectancy based on my usage or just bite the bullet and build myself a DDR5 system and perhaps just reuse the case.

Component consideration for reuse
Corsair Dominator DDR4 32Gb (four sticks)
Corsair AX860i power supply
EVGA GeForce 750Ti
Samsung 990 Pro MVNe 4T
Samsung 850 Pro SSD 2.5" 1T

Components being replaced
ASUS X99-E WS Board
Intel i7-5820K

Hoping to extend life another few years then go build a new system off latest technology.

I don't game. Machine is used purely for day trading on ThinkOrSwim, having various browser tabs opened and heavy modeling on Excel. As built it handles or my required tasks without a flaw.

Tried reaching out to Corsair and best they could do is tell me their components built for longevity based on the 10 year warranty which was my expectation and why I'm considering this route vs a new build as I'd rather wait a few more years before throwing more money than I'd want to use at the moment. Being a day trader means I need money to make money therefore all unnecessary expenditures are measured as such.

Don't overclock CPU or memory. Seek stability.

Thanks in advance

 

[punkncat]

If you insist on using the DDR4 that will force you to use AM4 for the DDR4. Intel has options available for DDR 4 or 5. Be aware of the issues reported with Intel 13 and 14th gen CPU over the 65W mark. 12th gen parts can readily be found for good pricing right now as retailers are trying to be rid of it.

IMO the biggest issue with AM4 is finding a quality motherboard at a reasonable price, new.

Given your use case I would see it easy to build a rig to last a good while forward. I would not recommend trying to stretch the power supply use long past that 10 year mark as failure of that unit could cost you significantly in damage to other hardware.

 

[GARRIGA]

If you insist on using the DDR4 that will force you to use AM4 for the DDR4. Intel has options available for DDR 4 or 5. Be aware of the issues reported with Intel 13 and 14th gen CPU over the 65W mark. 12th gen parts can readily be found for good pricing right now as retailers are trying to be rid of it.

IMO the biggest issue with AM4 is finding a quality motherboard at a reasonable price, new.

Given your use case I would see it easy to build a rig to last a good while forward. I would not recommend trying to stretch the power supply use long past that 10 year mark as failure of that unit could cost you significantly in damage to other hardware.

The power supply being my biggest concern. Memory dying not so much.

Sticking to Intel and was considering 14700K. I don't OC CPU or memory therefore is there still a concern I should consider? Alternative was the 12700K. Like the middle of the road performance of the i7 option. What I used for my X99 build.

 

[Lafong]

"As built it handles or my required tasks without a flaw."

If that's true, I'd do nothing until it is not true or until you have a major component failure.

There is a reasonable chance of disappointment any time you build. Why take that chance considering you express no disappointment with current equipment?

But....being a day trader, maybe it makes sense to have a backup machine so that once in a lifetime killing doesn't escape because you are out of action after a motherboard failure?

Or maybe you just have an irresistible itch to build another machine? Don't we all sooner or later?

If you do build, I'd certainly get a new power supply and DDR 5. And SSDs if you are still stuck on spinning drives.

Many would tell you to avoid Intel 13000 and 14000 CPUs. That's another story.

 

[GARRIGA]

"As built it handles or my required tasks without a flaw."

If that's true, I'd do nothing until it is not true or until you have a major component failure.

There is a reasonable chance of disappointment any time you build. Why take that chance considering you express no disappointment with current equipment?

But....being a day trader, maybe it makes sense to have a backup machine so that once in a lifetime killing doesn't escape because you are out of action after a motherboard failure?

Or maybe you just have an irresistible itch to build another machine? Don't we all sooner or later?

If you do build, I'd certainly get a new power supply and DDR 5. And SSDs if you are still stuck on spinning drives.

Many would tell you to avoid Intel 13000 and 14000 CPUs. That's another story.

Change not due to component failure and strictly due to Win 10 Pro support expiring next year in October. I'm considering my options now as I'd rather be prepared then wait last minute and unable to find DDR4 components because they've been discontinued or priced unreasonably high. Something I've experienced with my prior three builds going back to 1997. At some point old tech too expensive or only used as an option.

Fact is I have a Q6600 DDR3 machine lying around because it wouldn't run Win 10 probably still worth a few dollars.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

If you go Intel I think I’d go 12th gen for price to performance and I don’t think there are as many reports about those having issues.

If you have a microcenter nearby they are having killer deals now. For example a ryzen 7700x, 32gb of ddr5 and board for 399.

https://www.microcenter.com/product...ies-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

But they’ve got 7600 bundles for about 300 also.

 

[GARRIGA]

If you go Intel I think I’d go 12th gen for price to performance and I don’t think there are as many reports about those having issues.

If you have a microcenter nearby they are having killer deals now. For example a ryzen 7700x, 32gb of ddr5 and board for 399.

https://www.microcenter.com/product...ies-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

But they’ve got 7600 bundles for about 300 also.

MC near me and been building different configs on their website. Never used AMD based CPU. I'll look into it.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Ironically last year I built my 1st ever Intel box due to costs. But since then the AMD stuff has come down. Been using AMD since the 90s. Always decent stuff imo. The 9000 series is their latest bit if you want the bang for bucks the 7000 series should be good value.

 

[BFG-9000]

Well if you are going to replace almost everything anyway, why not use Win 11 unsupported on your current rig? I mean it should run the current latest 24H2 fine which is good to October 13, 2026. Anything after that depends on what changes Microsoft decides to put into next years' 25H2.

The Win 11 requirements are artificial and even your Q6600 should run Win 11 23H2 until 1 month after the EOL of Windows 10. You only need a 3rd-party program such as Rufus to strip the system requirement checks out of the installer.

As you have two SSDs you could install Win 11 on one and leave Win 10 on the other (be sure to disconnect it while installing Win 11!). Use the BIOS to select which drive to boot from.

 

[USAFRet]

Well if you are going to replace almost everything anyway, why not use Win 11 unsupported on your current rig? I mean it should run the current latest 24H2 fine which is good to October 13, 2026. Anything after that depends on what changes Microsoft decides to put into next years' 25H2.

The Win 11 requirements are artificial and even your Q6600 should run Win 11 23H2 until 1 month after the EOL of Windows 10. You only need a 3rd-party program such as Rufus to strip the system requirement checks out of the installer.

As you have two SSDs you could install Win 11 on one and leave Win 10 on the other (be sure to disconnect it while installing Win 11!). Use the BIOS to select which drive to boot from.

Presumably this new full replacement PC will happen before Oct 2025?

If so, why bother with trying Win 11 on this unsupported system? Just keep it as Win 10.

 

[BFG-9000]

Presumably this new full replacement PC will happen before Oct 2025?

If so, why bother with trying Win 11 on this unsupported system? Just keep it as Win 10.

No. This is so OP could have a 2nd Windows PC after Oct 2025, seeing as it would only require a SSD and case if they are buying everything else new already anyway.

Or so OP can try out Windows 11 for free right now to decide if it's tolerable enough to even build a new PC around.

 

[GARRIGA]

Rather not mess with installing on unsupported hardware as I'm constantly doing updates to avoid hacks or other issues. Stability is key with what I do for a living and MS can disable the feature anytime plus never been a fan of hacking or jail break to make a feature work.

It's either upgrade bare minimum, wait until 10/25 and rebuild or hopefully a paid service exists for consumers and I keep getting updates for a few more years. Only thing truly pressing is more memory for my larger data intensive models.

Been researching AMD and the Ryzen 9 9950X seems the best fit for productivity. Was hoping the new Ultra 9 would but still researching that. Not a gamer therefore it's lackluster performance in that arena not an issue. Hope was wait long enough and build an actual workstation. Pricey but I'd get good mileage out of it. Threadripper territory or Xeon. Plus ECC memory welcomed.

I'm also curious what Win 12 brings. Supposedly Win 10 was the last iteration and now two new upgrades in very few years.

 

[USAFRet]

hopefully a paid service exists for consumers and I keep getting updates for a few more years.

Yes, that has already been announced.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/extended-security-updates

Can't quit Windows 10? Microsoft will charge for updates next year. Here's how much

Businesses can expect to pay a shockingly high sum for Windows 10 Extended Security Updates. Educators will fare better. And for the first time, consumers can sign up - but there's a catch.

www.zdnet.com

 

[GARRIGA]

Yes, that has already been announced.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/extended-security-updates

Can't quit Windows 10? Microsoft will charge for updates next year. Here's how much

Businesses can expect to pay a shockingly high sum for Windows 10 Extended Security Updates. Educators will fare better. And for the first time, consumers can sign up - but there's a catch.

www.zdnet.com

Wasn’t aware the consumer side was worked out. Extends a year only but for me that’s good enough. Upgrade was planned for summer 2026. This solves my dilemma. Thx