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Leakers revise RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 power draw to 575W and 360W respectively — Up to 27% higher than last-generation RTX 40 GPUs
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[citation][nom]Cmartin011[/nom]SHAM on xbox and ps3 they hardly live up to the reliability standards of the one stuff[/citation]
That, at least partially, is because the more complex you make a console (more transistors, more processors, more cores, more intricate gpus) the greater the likelihood of something going bad. That is, the more things there are to break, it is just as likely that one of them will, but you have more chances that one will as well.
That may not have anything to do with the actual manufactured quality of a product. I'm not saying it doesn't because microsoft KNOWINGLY release the 360 knowing it had issues. So in their case, shame on them. Has something come out about Sony knowing that? I haven't kept up there. And it could be true of both of them, I dunno.
That, at least partially, is because the more complex you make a console (more transistors, more processors, more cores, more intricate gpus) the greater the likelihood of something going bad. That is, the more things there are to break, it is just as likely that one of them will, but you have more chances that one will as well.
That may not have anything to do with the actual manufactured quality of a product. I'm not saying it doesn't because microsoft KNOWINGLY release the 360 knowing it had issues. So in their case, shame on them. Has something come out about Sony knowing that? I haven't kept up there. And it could be true of both of them, I dunno.
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[citation][nom]wotan31[/nom]Well yeah, now we have the Windows OS, which requires 2 cores and 4 GB of memory just to boot up. Software back then was actually written efficiently, and in the absolute minimum number of lines of code required.[/citation]
Lots of coding then was done in ASM (assembler), so one naturally wrote the minimum number of lines, bc everything they were doing was directly addressing memory and registers. Now software is written in high level languages like C++, using more generalized, human readable, commands, and broken down to ASM then binary, so we've added at least one layer of complexity to make it easier to code.
Keep in mind too that Windows, or any modern OS does about 1000 times as many things as these ever did. Like multitasking. Windows, Linux, BSD, etc are all OSes designed to run on literally millions of different hardware configurations as well. Most, if not all, of these and other consoles are closed platform development. The code base is far smaller just in that consideration.
So while we do have greater hardware requirements, we're also doing much much more as a society. Most of these had a single task, and were limited to that even in their best moments; as enjoyable as they were. Still have my atari 2600, and a ton of games. Might break it out soon...
Lots of coding then was done in ASM (assembler), so one naturally wrote the minimum number of lines, bc everything they were doing was directly addressing memory and registers. Now software is written in high level languages like C++, using more generalized, human readable, commands, and broken down to ASM then binary, so we've added at least one layer of complexity to make it easier to code.
Keep in mind too that Windows, or any modern OS does about 1000 times as many things as these ever did. Like multitasking. Windows, Linux, BSD, etc are all OSes designed to run on literally millions of different hardware configurations as well. Most, if not all, of these and other consoles are closed platform development. The code base is far smaller just in that consideration.
So while we do have greater hardware requirements, we're also doing much much more as a society. Most of these had a single task, and were limited to that even in their best moments; as enjoyable as they were. Still have my atari 2600, and a ton of games. Might break it out soon...
I thought I would see the "revolutionary" Coleco vision or Pong. I would like to see some led hand held football and a "Merlin" taken apart.
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[citation][nom]someguynamedmatt[/nom]Heh, I just got it fired back up, and it's as solid as ever. Not exactly fast... well... your average smartphone is faster than it... but it's still ticking along happily. It's amazing how far graphics have progressed, though; it still had Flight Simulator '95 on it with its max resolution of 640x480 or something. Oh, the good old days.[/citation]
Makes me wish my MO wasn't to run every machine I owned into the ground, scrape up a few pieces, and move on to a new machine. The good old days of booting my 486 into DOS mode to play Space Quest II brings a tear to my eye just thinking about. I can still smell the dust burning off the heatsink-less CPU.
Makes me wish my MO wasn't to run every machine I owned into the ground, scrape up a few pieces, and move on to a new machine. The good old days of booting my 486 into DOS mode to play Space Quest II brings a tear to my eye just thinking about. I can still smell the dust burning off the heatsink-less CPU.
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Hey!
That Atari 2600 appears to be a later model - same ugly case. Then they stuck it in a modern looking 5200 style case that is smaller.
What about the Odyssey2? Its easily more complicated...
I have working O2 and vectrex machines... I won't take the Vectrex apart since these are much more rare... but those joysticks were tough and awesome.
The LAST two consoles... Those are the FIRST consoles ever, especially the Odyssey. Basically PONG / Tennis games.
That Atari 2600 appears to be a later model - same ugly case. Then they stuck it in a modern looking 5200 style case that is smaller.
What about the Odyssey2? Its easily more complicated...
I have working O2 and vectrex machines... I won't take the Vectrex apart since these are much more rare... but those joysticks were tough and awesome.The LAST two consoles... Those are the FIRST consoles ever, especially the Odyssey. Basically PONG / Tennis games.
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BTW: The first ever VIDEO game was "SPACE WAR" - which a bunch of geeks with the model railroad club & computer center put together with a DPD11 (I am guessing the name) computer (about the size of a refrigerator)
Needless to say, they played ALL into the night and dozens of people would watch the games. Late 60s... played with toggle switches. They soon built the first ever joystick.
Needless to say, they played ALL into the night and dozens of people would watch the games. Late 60s... played with toggle switches. They soon built the first ever joystick.
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nice, I bought an Atari from http://www.playerschoicevideogames.com last month. Best purchase ever!!
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