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[dogman_1234]

Guys, the tax rate for the US is the highest in the world. No conspiracy...just the facts.

BTW, I would recommend all of you take a macro econ class at your local jr college just for shyts and giggles. You will learn a lot.

 

[riser]

GE supports the far left Green agenda. They are the company that has the most to gain from going green. You are seriously under informed. GE holds the patent on Wind Turbines which are being touted.

Come on man, step up and start informing yourself. GE is pushing heavily for the Green agenda while also paying zero in Corporate taxes in the US. Search it, is it very easy to find.

Watch how easy it is:
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=ge+taxes+2011

My political views are minimal; Economics, business, and moral authority trump anything politcal.

 

[dogman_1234]

They want green....they should hire me to design them an all electric jet....oh, wait....what about oil? 😀

That's right...

 

[johnsonma]

GE supports the far left Green agenda. They are the company that has the most to gain from going green. You are seriously under informed. GE holds the patent on Wind Turbines which are being touted.

Come on man, step up and start informing yourself. GE is pushing heavily for the Green agenda while also paying zero in Corporate taxes in the US. Search it, is it very easy to find.

Watch how easy it is:
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=ge+taxes+2011

My political views are minimal; Economics, business, and moral authority trump anything politcal.

Just because GE supports a green agenda does not mean they support the left, you are taking an issue and throwing it in with your political beliefs, maybe they think that there is a bigger market in renewable energy? There is a reason the subsidies are there, to promote the growth of the industry, they see an opportunity and take it. Since Obama put these subsidies in place, they are obviously in bed together. Your kidding yourself if you think I'm uninformed, your just completely close minded, and will not look at the other possibilities surrounding a discussion.

They paid zero for one year which is not unheard of, you can realize future losses to minimize taxes, among many other things.

 

[johnsonma]

According to the dept. of Energy the US has 1.124 trillion barrels of conventional oil in the ground. This doesn't include reserves yet to be discovered. Interestingly, most of these reserves reside under Federally owned land, not privately owned.

http://orbat.com/site/energy/us%20energy%20independence.htm

http://www.fossil.energy.gov/programs/oilgas/eor/index.html

http://www.fossil.energy.gov/news/techlines/2006/06015-Oil_Recovery_Assessments_Released.html

We're not running out anytime soon.

Too bad gasoline prices are dictated by international market forces and any increase in the drilling for oil has no real bearing on them.

 

[johnsonma]

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/ge-ceo-jeffrey-immelt-the-head-of-obamas-jobs-council-is-moving-jobs-and-economic-infrastructure-to-china-at-a-blistering-pace

Yup, unskilled labor is cheaper in China, I already knew this.

 

[johnsonma]

Jeffrey Immelt. GE. Obama job council. Flourescent bulbs made in China cheaply. Green.

Sorry for the brevity but you don't seem to be making the connection.

I see the connection, its a very poor example though.

 

[johnsonma]

Is United States oil production not part of the world market? If not, how so?

Our production is a drop in the bucket when it comes to gasoline prices, research it and stop blindly following the drill baby drill bull****.

 

[riser]

Just because GE supports a green agenda does not mean they support the left, you are taking an issue and throwing it in with your political beliefs, maybe they think that there is a bigger market in renewable energy? There is a reason the subsidies are there, to promote the growth of the industry, they see an opportunity and take it. Since Obama put these subsidies in place, they are obviously in bed together. Your kidding yourself if you think I'm uninformed, your just completely close minded, and will not look at the other possibilities surrounding a discussion.

They paid zero for one year which is not unheard of, you can realize future losses to minimize taxes, among many other things.

You are clearly out of touch. That is a painful pill for you to swallow.

Do you understand why solar and wind technology does not work well in the US, but it can work well in Germany and other countries? Do you know? I doubt it. Keep living in your uninformed little bubble of opinions and as always, do not let facts get in your way.

 

[dogman_1234]

Did you guys know we export our oil, and import what we consume from Saudi Arabia?

 

[johnsonma]

You are clearly out of touch. That is a painful pill for you to swallow.

Do you understand why solar and wind technology does not work well in the US, but it can work well in Germany and other countries? Do you know? I doubt it. Keep living in your uninformed little bubble of opinions and as always, do not let facts get in your way.

LOL, tough pill for me to swallow huh, your arrogance precedes you riser. Maybe you should get off your high horse? Solar and wind are running into trouble because of the inability to store the electricity they produce, it was thought that if you built them close to the consumption points it would mitigate this, it is not working as well as they hoped, I am a bigger fan of nuclear/natural gas. Thanks for proving that you would rather bash on me than put forth any logic.

I believe they could eventually make solar/wind/water power work, it just needs more time and heavy R&D to make it reliable enough to turn off coal based power plants and such.

 

[dogman_1234]

Personally, I am a fusion guy...but don't tell me the logistics of that one!

 

[johnsonma]

Fusion would solve so many problems. Would be pretty damn sweet too!

 

[dogman_1234]

I dare you to read up on ITER and DEMO. Both projects that will give us a base for future fusion.

However, look at each project and tell me what is wrong. What is it?

There is no current fuel that it readily bioavailable on Earth. Now, look to the Moon. He3 would be great. An aneutronic reaction is what we need and it yields higher energy output with virtually no radio-toxins.

Take a look at the basic reaction chart:

2p1n+2p1n=4p2n>2pn + 2p. Output 18.6 MeV.

Basically, 2 Helium 3 isotopes react to produce one Helium stable isotope and 2 protons. With that reaction comes 18.6 megaelectronvolts.

1 eV= 1.60217646 × 10^-19 joules

A lot of power for just one reaction itself.

 

[dogman_1234]

It is actually greener....

 

[dogman_1234]

Thank you for your response dogman, always appreciated.

Always hear to take on sarcasm, gamer!

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production
36 Yemen 288,400 0.34% 2009
— World 87,500,000[3] 100% 2011
35 Vietnam 300,600 0.36% 2010
11 Venezuela 2,472,000 2.93% 2009
56 Uzbekistan 70,910 0.08% 2009
104 Uruguay 997 0.00% 2010
3 United States 7,800,000[3] 8.91% 2011
19 United Kingdom 1,502,000 1.78% 2009
8 United Arab Emirates 2,798,000 3.32% 2009
52 Ukraine 99,930 0.12% 2009
75 U.S. Virgin Islands 16,870 0.02% 2009
41 Turkmenistan 197,700 0.23% 2009
62 Turkey 52,980 0.06% 2009
54 Tunisia 91,380 0.11% 2009
44 Trinidad and Tobago 151,600 0.18% 2009
53 Timor-Leste 96,270 0.11% 2009
32 Thailand 380,000 0.45% 2010
109 Tajikistan 221 0.00% 2009
37 Taiwan 276,800 0.33% 2009
31 Syria 400,400 0.48% 2009
100 Switzerland 3,488 0.00% 2009
94 Sweden 4,833 0.01% 2009
78 Suriname 15,190 0.02% 2009
51 Sudan 111,700 0.14% 2009
70 Spain 27,230 0.03% 2009
33 South Sudan 375,000 0.45% 2010
42 South Africa 191,000 0.23% 2009
112 Somalia 108 0.00% 2009
115 Slovenia 5 0.00% 2009
96 Slovakia 4,114 0.00% 2009
83 Singapore 10,910 0.01% 2009
114 Sierra Leone 29 0.00% 2009
80 Serbia 11,400 0.01% 2010
2 Saudi Arabia 8,800,000[3] 10.06% 2011
1 Russia 10,540,000[3] 12.01% 2011
49 Romania 117,000 0.14% 2009
20 Qatar 1,213,000 1.44% 2009
103 Puerto Rico 1,783 0.00% 2009
95 Portugal 4,721 0.01% 2009
68 Poland 34,140 0.04% 2009
85 Philippines 9,671 0.01% 2010
45 Peru 148,000 0.18% 2009
113 Paraguay 31 0.00% 2009
67 Papua New Guinea 35,090 0.04% 2009
116 Panama 2 0.00% 2009
59 Pakistan 59,140 0.07% 2009
25 Oman

 

[blackhawk1928]

US companies not paying enough tax to the US govt ... that's why your country is in so much poo.

Absolutely NOT! The spending is out of control. Billions here, billions there, trillions here, trillions there. If I were in charge of government, our tax rate would be half of what it is now and we would still be getting revenue. Its all about wasteful spending. The government needs to become more efficient like a private company. Private companies exist due to their economic efficiency. Minimum costs, maximum profit, maximum production. Given, the government needs to be of a larger span in operations than a private company, but the efficiency is leagues weaker.

Thing about the democratic party, you can make taxes 100% and they would still make a debt out of it.

 

[riser]

LOL, tough pill for me to swallow huh, your arrogance precedes you riser. Maybe you should get off your high horse? Solar and wind are running into trouble because of the inability to store the electricity they produce, it was thought that if you built them close to the consumption points it would mitigate this, it is not working as well as they hoped, I am a bigger fan of nuclear/natural gas. Thanks for proving that you would rather bash on me than put forth any logic.

I believe they could eventually make solar/wind/water power work, it just needs more time and heavy R&D to make it reliable enough to turn off coal based power plants and such.

You are clueless on why Solar doesn't work in the US. Our electrical grid needs to be updated. The electricity can't travel as far and too much power is lost. That's why we don't have solar fields in the middle of the desert serving up energy everywhere. If we were running on a newer grid like in Europe, solar would work. It is cost prohibitive in the US to make solar work.

Why do you think companies like First Solar have a single plant in the US (testing, development, some local sales) and all their new plants are being put in areas that can utilize solar energy? Those areas have newer grids.

Nuclear is great because it produces so much energy that what we lose in transferring it over a distance isn't as significant. When you don't produce as much, yet the loss is the same, it isn't beneficial.

 

[riser]

Absolutely NOT! The spending is out of control. Billions here, billions there, trillions here, trillions there. If I were in charge of government, our tax rate would be half of what it is now and we would still be getting revenue. Its all about wasteful spending. The government needs to become more efficient like a private company. Private companies exist due to their economic efficiency. Minimum costs, maximum profit, maximum production. Given, the government needs to be of a larger span in operations than a private company, but the efficiency is leagues weaker.

Thing about the democratic party, you can make taxes 100% and they would still make a debt out of it.

Amen bro. I live it first hand and will attest to the wasteful spending of the government. $0.60 of every dollar spent is pretty much wasted.

 

[johnsonma]

Nice jaydee!

#3 in the world. Hardly a drop in the bucket eh there john? I say we shoot for #1.

Still waiting on your opinion of natural gas production too john. Something tells me you won't respond though.

Why do I think this? Because I'm sure you are well aware that there is NO natural gas production unless we "DRILL BABY DRILL!!!!"

A glittering jewel. Truly, a glittering jewel.

I am all for natural gas, I agree with the statement that it could be used as a transition fuel until alternative methods are refined. Trust me, we are already increasing drilling for natural gas, but the comment drill baby drill is just to open ended, how about drill where its economically feasible and has the least impact on the environment and the people around it?

Even if we shot for #1, which is impossible considering how far behind we are, it wouldn't really help with gas prices. Its simple supply and demand, there is no way we could make up for the supply in the U.S alone to meet the ever increasing demand throughout the world. We need to get away from oil, its only going to get worse as other developing countries continue to increase the demand.

 

[johnsonma]

You are clueless on why Solar doesn't work in the US. Our electrical grid needs to be updated. The electricity can't travel as far and too much power is lost. That's why we don't have solar fields in the middle of the desert serving up energy everywhere. If we were running on a newer grid like in Europe, solar would work. It is cost prohibitive in the US to make solar work.

Why do you think companies like First Solar have a single plant in the US (testing, development, some local sales) and all their new plants are being put in areas that can utilize solar energy? Those areas have newer grids.

Nuclear is great because it produces so much energy that what we lose in transferring it over a distance isn't as significant. When you don't produce as much, yet the loss is the same, it isn't beneficial.

I'm clueless? Interesting, I was thinking the same thing about your comment. Tell me riser, what happens when there is a whiteout blizzard or it's night time and there is no wind, how do we get power? We keep the coal based power plants and other sources running idly so that they can kick on when there is no power coming in and prevent power loss. This reduces the benefits of solar and wind greatly. If we could get to a point were we could shut down the coal plants and such, then we would see incredible results.

 

[riser]

I'm clueless? Interesting, I was thinking the same thing about your comment. Tell me riser, what happens when there is a whiteout blizzard or it's night time and there is no wind, how do we get power? We keep the coal based power plants and other sources running idly so that they can kick on when there is no power coming in and prevent power loss. This reduces the benefits of solar and wind greatly. If we could get to a point were we could shut down the coal plants and such, then we would see incredible results.

You can't just keep a coal plant 'idle' - they either run or they don't. It takes a lot of work to kick the turbines on and get them prepared to produce electricity. If you want to step up coal produced power, you have to have it planned and ready to go. It isn't like one hour you want 50% and the next you want 75%. You either run it or you don't. The solar power can only supplement the coal; coal cannot supplement solar. Aside from that, again the 110v we run on is not efficient enough to work with solar power outside of individual buildings. Even then, most buildings still consume more power than the space required to operate. This is again because of the 110v and inefficiency of that grid compared to 220v.

 

[johnsonma]

You can't just keep a coal plant 'idle' - they either run or they don't. It takes a lot of work to kick the turbines on and get them prepared to produce electricity. If you want to step up coal produced power, you have to have it planned and ready to go. It isn't like one hour you want 50% and the next you want 75%. You either run it or you don't. The solar power can only supplement the coal; coal cannot supplement solar. Aside from that, again the 110v we run on is not efficient enough to work with solar power outside of individual buildings. Even then, most buildings still consume more power than the space required to operate. This is again because of the 110v and inefficiency of that grid compared to 220v.

You can change their output, its just less efficient. All you need to pipe solar electricity to the grid is an inverter. Still the biggest problem with solar and wind is storage and like you said, distribution. Although I think distribution will be easier to solve than storage.

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/the_challenge_for_green_energy_how_to_store_excess_electricity/2170/

 

[riser]

Less efficient on something that is already not as efficient... makes it even worse.

Why do we need to store the energy of something that is essentially free?