Foxconn Worker says, ''Life is Meaningless''

[back_by_demand]

[citation][nom]jeffc1986oh[/nom]Life is not meaningless, someday the earth will be restored to a utopia (bible). Right now it's anything goes until our creator steps in. For now it is a time to be tested, a time "FOR GLORY!"(Spartans LOL). While I don't think I could personally, the person in the photo could have made one hell of a last stand peacefully like Martin Luther King. In most revolutions there is some type of spark, this person could have been that spark (meaning). Capitalism did not cause this maybe it could help idk?[/citation]
Not likely, people are despairing of their harsh work hours and commiting suicide at a rate 1/3 of the national average. We think it's bad bad it is obviously 3 times better than the rest of China.
Dont go expecting any kind of uprising anytime soon, thhe last time there was a serious protest in Tiananmen Square http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989 and depending on who you believe and the Chinese Government is NOT the most likely, up to 10,000 may have been killed.

Honestly, working hard and 10 people commiting suicide, no-one gives a shit.

 

[dark_lord69]

It sounds to me like those in charge crack the whip waaaay too hard. I know it's not america but they need to lighten up. We are humans, not machines.

-They should encourage talk and friendships with co-workers.
-They should allow you to use the bathroom whenever you need to.
-If you have to work on a poduction line for 12 hours a day don't make them stand. Give them a chair.
-They don't need to yell at the employees. Infact any pshcologist will tell you, you are likely to have better workers (overall) if you encourage them and tell them good job rather than yelling.


I guess I feel sad for these people because I worked at a computer factory here in america. We were allowed to talk. We were given chairs and could sit if we wanted to. Of course it was just an 8 hour workday. We were given 2 breaks and a lunch break.

Although when you work at a factory like the one I worked at, there are soo many workers that you just feel like one of the cattle in a herd and not like a valued employee. Which is why I left that job and went to college.

 

[g_h0_st]

[citation][nom]-Alessandro-[/nom]We should just stop buying any product made at Foxconn[/citation]

Actually, that's not as easy as you might think. For instance, I work for Nokia, in a factory similar to the one in the article (albeit I have an office job, but I know how hard it is for the workers on the assembly lines). Point is, one of our major part suppliers is Foxconn. They make a lot of stuff for us, so it means that when you're buying a Nokia phone, you actually buy Foxconn products as well. Like I said, not as easy as you'd think.

 

[Crashman]

[citation][nom]dark_lord69[/nom]It sounds to me like those in charge crack the whip waaaay too hard. I know it's not america but they need to lighten up. We are humans, not machines.[/citation]Foxconn is already treating its employees better than the Chinese government wants them to. Here's a handy little Mao Tse-Tung quote:
"People who try to commit suicide — don't attempt to save them! . . . China is such a populous nation, it is not as if we cannot do without a few people."
pp. 110. ISBN 0674023323.

You have to wonder how much harder Foxconn can push to improve work conditions before China shuts them down!

 

[babachoo]

It sounds to me like those in charge crack the whip waaaay too hard. I know it's not america but they need to lighten up. We are humans, not machines.

-They should encourage talk and friendships with co-workers.
-They should allow you to use the bathroom whenever you need to.
-If you have to work on a poduction line for 12 hours a day don't make them stand. Give them a chair.
-They don't need to yell at the employees. Infact any pshcologist will tell you, you are likely to have better workers (overall) if you encourage them and tell them good job rather than yelling.


I guess I feel sad for these people because I worked at a computer factory here in america. We were allowed to talk. We were given chairs and could sit if we wanted to. Of course it was just an 8 hour workday. We were given 2 breaks and a lunch break.

Although when you work at a factory like the one I worked at, there are soo many workers that you just feel like one of the cattle in a herd and not like a valued employee. Which is why I left that job and went to college.

What computer factory did you work at? Are they still manufacturing computers? Why are you no longer working there?

Can't wait to use your answers to prove my point.

 

[marvelfin]

The People's Republic of China, is ruled by the Communist Party of China and they have a single party system.

Communism is the culprit, not capitalism.

 

[rick_h]

Although I have not seen the conditions of Foxconn first hand, I have seen the conditions of one of it's local subsidiaries in Shenzhen (I am a manufacturing Engineer). Allow me to first explain that I have worked with several CM's in the US and will use this experience as a reference. Overall, the work environment at this factory was far better than I ever imagined, but it certainly is not up to our working environment here in the states. The young men and women working in these factories are like anyone else; they have dreams and passions. They build sophisticated electronic equipment that they will never be able to afford to own, yet it is affordable to most everyone else in the west. We here in the states and especially in Europe take all these luxuries as entitlements. Our decadent culture oozes out to these portals of the western civilization such as like Shenzhen, China. These people see our spoiled culture of entitlements and realize that their situation is hopeless, as their lives may never amount to anything.
In China, if you don't do good in elementary school, you don't make to High School and end up working in a factory such as those in Shenzhen. In the end, it's not capital greed that is the root cause, it's merely that the lazy and undeserving freeloaders here in the west have more entitlements than the hard working poor in China. What a pity.

 

[Guest]

We are all wage slaves, drones.
http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/

 

[blurr91]

1. There are over 300,000 workers at Foxconn facility. The suicide rate, annualized, is on par with ours (11 per 100,000).

2. If they don't like to work there, leave. No one is holding a gun to their head and force them to work.

3. How many of us work boring jobs and haven't thought about suicide?

 

[Crashman]

[citation][nom]MOFO144[/nom]We are all wage slaves, drones.http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/[/citation]Oh yes, green is the new red...

The problem is we all know that people only respond productively to direct reward. Perhaps denial really is a river...

 

[Guest]

THing you may not realize if you won't buy anything made by Foxconn. You won't be buying any HP, Dell, Apple, Microsoft, Cisco/Linksys, Nintendo, Sony, and numerous other companies that contract out manufacturing to them. That will lead you to have pretty much NO choices left if you're a computer technology buyer since almost Everyone outsource to Foxconn.

 

[Guest]

China

 

[Guest]

Nov in 2009, for one of them in Foxconn, his monthly basic salary(basic salary means 8hours a day and 5days a week)is 900RMB, and weekdays overtime 60.5 hours salary is 469RMB, weekends overtime 75hours salary is 776RMB.So, 900+469+776=2149.It means that the most of the operators' salary comes from his work over time but not basic salary. They have to work over time because they want to get more salary. No chats during work and no time to have a rest, so they said," Life is meaningless. I'm becoming a machine."

 

[ctmk]

[citation][nom]JOSHSKORN[/nom]There are plenty of other people that DON'T work at FoxConn that also say "Life is meaningless."[/citation]

Yes, but the point is foxxcon product are widely used. The world needs to know the goods they use and consume comes from where.

We, Them are humans. Even our skin may not be the same but we are the same species.

 

[ctmk]

[citation][nom]blurr91[/nom]1. There are over 300,000 workers at Foxconn facility. The suicide rate, annualized, is on par with ours (11 per 100,000).2. If they don't like to work there, leave. No one is holding a gun to their head and force them to work.3. How many of us work boring jobs and haven't thought about suicide?[/citation]

what you have looked into are statics. You will never see the real fact unless you are at the scene. I rather take on lower salary job for more human rights and freedom. but have you think about in china that company have "special status"? They work above the law till some extend but it is enough to put a hell to anyone without special status. Quitting the company may lead to no other company will hire that person anymore.

P/S: commu.