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[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Man how many times have we covered this topic! Jeez!

Anyhoo, you're almost right except for the most important part. It's not you cones or your rods that are the limiting factor it's the brain. The visual cortex will have different areas that fire under diferent stimuli. The apperance of fluid moion is done in the brain, not the eye. Thing like colour/B&W contrast, line angles and contrasting motion (all of which help determine which way objects are going in the real world) will have an effec on the level of perception. If you trigger more areas devoted to these aspects then you will find it hard to get 'fluid motion' from the same field/frame/refresh rate. This is why things like Jump-fraggine require much higher frame/refresh rates than game aspects that are more linear in nature.


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[Willamette_sucks]

Phsstpok I think you may have replied to the wrong person.

I have an explanation for what you claim to have seen though. The given update intervals of the mouse pointer may not be sync'd with the screen refresh, and you're getting dropped 'mouse frames', or repeated 'mouse frames'. This could very well occur less often at 60hz than at 100hz, or an even higher refresh rate.

Mose games use Direct Input, which is a function of Direct X, it has a higher sampling rate than whatever w1|\|d0wz uses. I'm not sure what that rate is though.


Stop asking people "whats up" or "hows it goin", you know you don't give a sh*t. And noone cares how you're doing either.

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[phsstpok]

No, I replied to the right person, OzzieBloke.

Well, I tried what you suggested.

The numbers are different with every game but I get more cursor images with the higher refresh rate and less with the lower rate.

w1|\|d0wz

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<b>56K, slow and steady does not win the race on internet!</b><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by phsstpok on 10/07/03 09:22 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[OzzieBloke]

You are absolutely right on the brain being the *final* limiting factor on what we perceive as smooth motion; I was only referring to the biophysics of the eyes. But don't underestimate what the brain is capable of detecting under certain (admittedly specific) conditions.

The crosshair motion someone alluded to would be a good exampe of what I am referring to; and I can say quite safely that the sample rate of even the most standard of mouses today is more than the vertical refresh of todays monitors. Kindly, if you disagree, do so in a mature fashion befitting civilized people.

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[ufo_warviper]

Kindly, if you disagree, do so in a mature fashion befitting civilized people.

I beleive this comment is directed at Willamet_Sucks is it not?

WS, can be overly critical at times, especially to newer members, but if you stick around long enough you'll find out he's a pretty good fella.

*Slaps willamette*

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[Willamette_sucks]

Ya I tend to bash teh noobs. I didn't bash you UFO, cause I didn't find you to be a moron, even when you first joined

I got a few warnings, took a break from the flames, but recently I've been getting back into it. Maybe its just cause im fvcked up bout that dumb chick at my school! Damn her awesome personality and utterly beautiful face!


Stop asking people "whats up" or "hows it goin", you know you don't give a sh*t. And noone cares how you're doing either.

"We are far less than we knew." - Bright Eyes

 

[ufo_warviper]

Don't worry Willy, there's tunz of chicks out there. You'll get hooked one day. Besides, I'm 20 & I STILL haven't been hooked yet, so you've got nothin' to worry about, there's plenty of time.

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[Willamette_sucks]

I DONT WANNA BE LIKE YOU UFO!!! DONT DRAG ME DOWN WITH YOU!!!


Stop asking people "whats up" or "hows it goin", you know you don't give a sh*t. And noone cares how you're doing either.

"We are far less than we knew." - Bright Eyes

 

[ufo_warviper]

Time will tell my friend, time will tell.

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[shadus]

Damn, I think I was one of the most unpopular peeps in school and I almost always had a gf and got laid pretty regularly from about 13 on... even being overweight at the time (240lbs @ 18), a geek (computer and pnp-rpg), and totally uninvolved in anything related to school. How the hell do you make it to 20 like that?

Shadus

 

[RCPilot]

ROTFLMAO

I wondered the same thing myself.

Dazzle them with Brilliance, or Baffle them with BS!

 

[phial]

lol

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[ufo_warviper]

How the hell do you make it to 20 like that?

Which? Without being laid, without having a girlfriend, or both?



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[RCPilot]

All!!!!

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[ufo_warviper]

Okay. I'm kind of girl shy around girls I like. I've only been on a few dates in my life. Its something I'm not proud of, but something I'm trying to conquer. Guess what? My brother hasn't ever had a girlfriend either, nor my cousin. And don't get me wrong, its not becuase of ugliness. I've heard lots of girls talk about how handsome my brother is, or "how cute his butt is", etc.

In addition to being girlshy, I have a fetish for Asian woemen. And where I live, Asian women are EXTREMELY rare. :frown: However, I'm definitely willing to have a girlfriend of other races as well.

Now as to why I haven't been laid with a chick yet. Let's just say that I plan to save that for my honey moon night so I'll be extra horny then. :lol:



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[RCPilot]

You've got morals I've never had.

I was screwing them when I was 12 or so. Ah yes, the first baby sitter for my little brother! I was in..... Well it was great! :lol:


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[ufo_warviper]

Wow, at age 12! You could produce "cum" at that age? What's it like? Is the feeling much different from MasturB?

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[RCPilot]

What's so unusual about that? That was my first & it lasted all summer, until the folks got wise! :frown:

No comparison! Try it you'll like it

Rosy Palm & her 5 Daughters will retire :lol:

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[ufo_warviper]

How did they handle your brother's babysitter? I imagine they would have been seriously pissed at her (and you 2 probably, but her especially considering that she was the older one).

My OS features preemptive multitasking, a fully interactive command line, & support for 640K of RAM!<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by UFO_WARVIPER on 10/08/03 07:55 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[RCPilot]

She was 16. Oh what a time. I'd better tell you about it in the other.

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[ufo_warviper]

HEHE!! I could almost feel this thread being moved.

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[OzzieBloke]

Feh.... I knew there was a good reason I left THG community in the first place... thanks for reminding me.

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[Guest]

Captain Obvious suspects we are not talking about refresh rates anymore!

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[shadus]

~Removed redundent crap.~

Shadus<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by shadus on 10/09/03 09:41 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[shadus]

> Let's just say that I plan to save that for my honey
> moon night so I'll be extra horny then.

I really hope you change your mind on that before the event, else you'll probally experience a touch and shoot sexual encounter. Almost everyone's first time is like that. Very unsatisfying for your lady friend and not very conducive to being laid frequently.

Shadus