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In case anyone hasnt heard France is engaged in a little bit of a conflict in Mali.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/15/us-mali-rebels-idUSBRE90D0FX20130115

First I would like to welcome them to the club, its been a while since anyone else has tried their hand at curbing terrorism. Good luck.

Secondly while this might seem like a smooth quick response that will put down the uprising fairly quickly I would like to remind you Americans were on a three hour tour of sorts in the middle east.... A decade later and it looks the same.

At least this puts out some fires on Hollande for appearing weak, at least right now.
 
Their secret service agent died along with another soldier while one is missing from the raid. I was reading on that a day or two ago.

Not often you hear what happens outside of the US.
 


Indeed.
You're referring to events in Somalia when my country is at war in Mali.



Now the Islamists threaten to reprisals in the heart of France.
My opinion is that they will blow cheese.
 
You stole my line sir ... I should have you whipped.

Actually the French appear to be doing the right thing.

I am worried for the workers on the Gas plant in Algeria... obviously their security force were not well prepared ... which is unusual for these sorts of operations.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2013/jan/17/algerian-islamists-hostages-standoff-live

The In Amenas gas field, jointly operated by British oil giant BP, Norway's Statoil and state-run Algerian energy firm Sonatrach, in eastern Algeria where Islamist militants are holding 41 foreign hostages

 
What in the hell was the rationale for opening fire on completely unknown targets....?

Its like the end of Die Hard when the FBI is running the numbers on casualties if they open fire on the hostages......

Sorry for the Die Hard reference, its just my favorite Christmas movie....
 
I would guess they kill them now or let them get away. I read they were moving the hostages in a vehicle. They may not have known the hostages were in vehicles at the time of the strafing. News is still coming in on it. Not everyone has the same code of conduct when dealing with these situations I guess.
 
This is hardly mentioned here, as guns have the agenda.
The MSM has once again dropped the ball (akin to Benghazi)
Thanks for those links
I try watching the news here, but so far its about guns, and I turn it off.
 
I read in a reuters article that the Algerians blew up 4 jeeps full of hostages because the terrorists wanted to move them abroad.

I dont understand why we spend so much on our military that when something like this happens we cant just immediately fly 50 highly trained soldiers to take the reins from the Algerians.

So far (From what Ive read) American contributions are an unarmed drone and some consultants.
 
Because unlike here, they have to live with them doing active atrocities time and again, and have simply decided to draw a few lines.
Its like I say, there is no talking to some people, when they hit you, you talk, they hit you again, again you talk, they hit you again...at some point, you hit back
 
Its easy to see why these people are operating there, simply because they can.
The things they do, how people suffer, and the owners, the people of that country are fed up, and have to do whatever they can with what they do have.
Yes, we can assist, we can help, but until each country comes to the resolve they have there, it will continue, and even doing these things, theyll still try, the terrorists.
They have the right to defend their own country, and may not have the means to do it our way, all we can do is offer help
 


It would send a message that we will go and retrieve Americans from any situation, it would bolster our confidence and make people think twice about kidnapping that obviously American tourist wearing flip flops in Spain.

Protecting (Rescuing) our citizens abroad is a part of what our military should be doing.
 
One SAS copycat Deltaforce "Sabre" Squadron would not have been able to quell this quick enough to have saved more lives.

A, B, and C Squadron would have ... thats 270 special troups and 40 support and logistics staff.

How quickly could they have been mobilised to that plant? The US needs to have that sort of responce capability to deal with these larger threats.

Hence the local troups gave it a go ... with terrible results.

Other govts should be prepared to chip in and support legitimate actions too.

So far its usually the US who get asked (begged) to step in.

Sadly they also are the first to get blamed when things don't work out well.

I cenrtainly admire the French and US for stepping in ... the other Western nations should at least assist in some small way ...
 
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