Question From 1050TI to 3060RTX [Same FPS]

[carevitch]

I recenty upgraded from a 1050TI to a 3060RTX 12GB OC series. However i feel 0 diffrence in fps and i might even worse. I am comparing these cards in Dota 2 on ultra settings. Dont tell me that the CPU bottlenecks the GPU, it is impossible. And yes, I have used DDU to remove the old drivers.

Benchmark Report

Intel Core i5-12600KF
32GB HyperX Fury 2400mHz
MSI MAG A650BN
MSI PRO B760M-P DDR4
MSI Nvidia GeForce 3060RTX

 

[Lutfij]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Use DDU to remove all GPU drivers(intel, AMD and Nvidia) in Safe Mode, then manually install the latest GPU driver sourced from Nvidia's support site in an elevated command, i.e, Right click installer>Run as Administrator.

How old is the PSU in your build? BIOS version for your motherboard?

32GB HyperX Fury 2400mHz
This is where you're losing performance, you should've gotten a dual channel DDR4-3600MHz tight latency ram kit to get an uplift from your platform. Speaking of platforms, you should've also looked at a motherboard with VRM heatsinks.

 

[carevitch]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Use DDU to remove all GPU drivers(intel, AMD and Nvidia) in Safe Mode, then manually install the latest GPU driver sourced from Nvidia's support site in an elevated command, i.e, Right click installer>Run as Administrator.

How old is the PSU in your build? BIOS version for your motherboard?

32GB HyperX Fury 2400mHz
This is where you're losing performance, you should've gotten a dual channel DDR4-3600MHz tight latency ram kit to get an uplift from your platform. Speaking of platforms, you should've also looked at a motherboard with VRM heatsinks.

Hey mate, thanks for the quick reply, yes I have already used DDU. I bought all the components this spring, everything is new except of RAM its from old built.
BIOS/Date American Megatrends International, LLC. 1.60, 9/9/2023

 

[geofelt]

Dota2 is largely single threaded.
I suspect that you were cpu limited before the gpu upgrade.

 

[carevitch]

Dota2 is largely single threaded.
I suspect that you were cpu limited before the gpu upgrade.

What do you mean? It is an i5 12600K, which boosts to around 4.3 GHz without any overclocking. What kind of CPU do I need to buy to comfortably play 10 year game. Lol.
Some folks are saying my RAM is affecting my CPU performance.

 

[geofelt]

The cpu generates frames, the gpu presents them.
Your upgraded gpu can now present frames faster than before, but the ability of the cpu to generate frames has remained unchanged.

 

[carevitch]

The cpu generates frames, the gpu presents them.
Your upgraded gpu can now present frames faster than before, but the ability of the cpu to generate frames has remained unchanged.

What kind of CPU do I need to buy to achieve decent fps in Dota or to play Stalker 2 comfortably?

 

[geofelt]

What is the make/model of the monitor you are using?
Is it connected via HDMI or DP?
What level of fps are we talking about?
Perhaps it is the monitor that is limiting you.
I do not know what FPS you consider decent.
Here are the requirements for stalker2:
https://gamesystemrequirements.com/game/stalker-2

12600K is a very good processor. It should not be a major limiter in any game.

 

[carevitch]

What is the make/model of the monitor you are using?
Is it connected via HDMI or DP?
What level of fps are we talking about?
Perhaps it is the monitor that is limiting you.
I do not know what FPS you consider decent.
Here are the requirements for stalker2:
https://gamesystemrequirements.com/game/stalker-2

12600K is a very good processor. It should not be a major limiter in any game.

I have a 165Hz FHD monitor connected via HDMI. I’m aiming for a stable 200-250 FPS at FHD resolution. I should probably start by upgrading the RAM.

 

[logainofhades]

2400mhz is holding you back. 2666 held back a 10400f, back when it was new, to the point a Ryzen 3 3300x with 3200 could beat a 10400f in gaming. I would swap that ram for a 32gb kit of ddr4 3200.

 

[Zerk2012]

However i feel 0 diffrence in fps and i might even worse

You feel?
What FPS are you getting now and what was it before?

 

[Flayed]

I remember when I replaced my 1050 ti it was a huge increase in performance. I still have the card as a spare. Have you removed the drivers with Display Driver Uninstaller and reinstalled the latest ones?

 

[carevitch]

Already ordered HyperX

You feel?
What FPS are you getting now and what was it before?

100 avg with 1050
80-100 with 3060

 

[carevitch]

I remember when I replaced my 1050 ti it was a huge increase in performance. I still have the card as a spare. Have you removed the drivers with Display Driver Uninstaller and reinstalled the latest ones?

Yes i have

 

[carevitch]

I just came back from the store and bought Kingston FURY Beast RGB 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MT/s CL16. I installed them in slots 1 and 3, but nothing happened. The FPS remained the same. Ridiculous. To play Dota I have to buy a NASA pc.

 

[carevitch]

In additional 2400mhz remained in bios 🤷‍♀️
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[MEMOFLEX]

In additional 2400mhz remained in bios 🤷‍♀️

You need to activate xmp to get the full speed of the new RAM.

 

[MEMOFLEX]

I just came back from the store and bought Kingston FURY Beast RGB 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MT/s CL16. I installed them in slots 1 and 3, but nothing happened. The FPS remained the same. Ridiculous. To play Dota I have to buy a NASA pc.

Normally the ram should go into slots 2 and 4 rather than 1 and 3

 

[carevitch]

Normally the ram should go into slots 2 and 4 rather than 1 and 3

I did that but pc has never booted.

 

[MEMOFLEX]

I did that but pc has never booted.

Can you enable XMP in the bios when using slots A1 and B1?

If you are getting no boot in slots A2 and B2 then this could be a problem elsewhere. My first check would be to remove the processor and check that there are no bent or misaligned pins in the socket underneath. If they are all fine then I would be careful when remounting the cooler to ensure you do not overtighten it as this can cause memory issues as well.

This may not fix your problem but it is worth checking and ruling out.

 

[carevitch]

Can you enable XMP in the bios when using slots A1 and B1?

If you are getting no boot in slots A2 and B2 then this could be a problem elsewhere. My first check would be to remove the processor and check that there are no bent or misaligned pins in the socket underneath. If they are all fine then I would be careful when remounting the cooler to ensure you do not overtighten it as this can cause memory issues as well.

This may not fix your problem but it is worth checking and ruling out.

I ran benchmark with new ram in 2 and 4 slots. Ill let you know

 

[carevitch]

Summary:
2400 RAM https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/118890769
3200 RAM https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/118927859?

I dont know where the problem is... Honestly, I dont know what to do else

 

[carevitch]

2400mhz is holding you back. 2666 held back a 10400f, back when it was new, to the point a Ryzen 3 3300x with 3200 could beat a 10400f in gaming. I would swap that ram for a 32gb kit of ddr4 3200.

Any ideas? Ive got 3200 RAM and replaced it

 

[MEMOFLEX]

Summary:
2400 RAM https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/118890769
3200 RAM https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/118927859?

I dont know where the problem is... Honestly, I dont know what to do else

3dmark is not really very memory sensitive and is more of a gpu test. It does test some cpu as well but memory speed - certainly on intel - is not that important. This is why your scores are so similar for both ram speeds which is within run to run variance.

You mentioned stalker 2 earlier. Have you tried to run an actual game to see if there is any difference in performance?