future proof GPU for 1080p 60fps gaming

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I'm upgrading from an almost ancient Core 2 Duo E8400 ( stock 3.0Ghz ) , 4GB DDR2 rig with 9800GTX+ card. My old Viewsonic 21 inch monitor died (unplanned replacement), so I just got an HP 23" monitor, which is slightly bigger with 1920x1080 60Hz. I do not plan to go for a bigger, higher resolution monitor for 3, to more likely 5 years.

I've built the new i7 6700K on ASrock Z170 Extreme 6 board with 16GB DDR4 RAM. PSU is an overkill Seasonic X850. I do not plan to upgrade for minimum 3 years, more realistically 5 years or more and that includes the 1080p monitor. I have not yet decided on the GPU, since as I was assembling my rig, I read about the nVidia 10xx series just being launched.

Now I gather that a GTX970 is plenty for 1080p 60fps gaming, but there's more to specs and maximum capacity. Whatever the max theoretical bandwidth of the ROPs/TMUs , the real world throughput is far lesser which is because the games demand some processing which reduce actual data rates far lower than max limits. So is it that a GTX970 which right now is more than adequate for 60fps at 1080, will fall short in future games , say 3-4 years from now ? After reading the specs and reviews, the 1070 looks like a good card with headroom for handling the raised demands from future games. I'm aiming for good graphics with as much eye candy turned on, else I was considering ( forgive me ! ) buying a PS4. I gather the 4GB VRAM isn't a limitation for 1080p, but what about the other components ? Will those be adequate for games released in 2020, the Crysis/Far Cry/GTA/Battlefield first person shooter genre that I'm looking at?

Is my assessment correct and the GTX970 will be insufficient in 3-5 years, or will it perform well enough to go for a GTX970 which I would keep for 3-5 years? The 970 is retailing for $400 minimum in India whereas the GTX1070 being just launched , is being price-gouged even more at $580 minimum for the Zotac custom card ; the FE 170 from Asus costs $610. Yeah, we Indians are being screwed by both the companies and the government, and GPU prices have been shooting for the stars ( comparing the prices of mid range cards I had before - 6600GT, 8600GT and 9800GTX+ ). I'm hoping for the 1070 non-FE parts to be available here and prices to drop a bit.

I'm not against AMD Radeons or such, just that all previous cards I had were nVidia. I'm open to the new AMD, but they aren't as readily available here and are priced high anyway.
 
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I'd also second waiting two weeks for the RX 480. AMD is being extremely aggressive with pricing by providing GTX 980 performance with an MSRP of $200.

The 900 series does not have full dx12 support. It got hammered online for actually getting lower performance in some DX12 games, while AMD's performance always improved.

If you want 5 years of ultra settings @ 1080p60fps, even the gtx 1080 wont make it. You'll need to swap out gpus at some point in a few years to maintain that on newly released games no matter what you buy. Your best bet is either a 1070 or RX 480 to last you a few years before getting a replacement at the same level.
I recvkon a GTX 970/R9 390 will be more than good enough for the years to come for 1080p. The industry standard has already shifted from 1080p to 1440p, and will continue to shift to 4k. So you would only want to upgrade if your resolution requires you to do so.

You might want to hold off for the new RX 480, which promises an excellent price/performance ratio; or as you already stated at least until the 1070 actually gets launched with non-FE cards available, so prices of previous generation cards will drop.
 
The performance with the same engine/feature set will stay the same, but with new games with newer engines and more eye candy features ? Do cards like the 2GB 680 still play Battlefield 4 at 1080 well ? Sorry, I'm a bit out of touch since I'm upgrading after a long nearly 8 year gap, so I don't have much recollection of the 2xx series onwards, until the 9xx now.

AMD cards in India have a lower availability , so unless the RX480 becomes popular in the US/Europe, it probably won't easy to find here.

What about DirectX 12 ? Does the 9xx series fully support DX12 ? I don't recall clearly, but it was mentioned as DX12 having only partial/limited feature support in 9xx.
 
I'd also second waiting two weeks for the RX 480. AMD is being extremely aggressive with pricing by providing GTX 980 performance with an MSRP of $200.

The 900 series does not have full dx12 support. It got hammered online for actually getting lower performance in some DX12 games, while AMD's performance always improved.

If you want 5 years of ultra settings @ 1080p60fps, even the gtx 1080 wont make it. You'll need to swap out gpus at some point in a few years to maintain that on newly released games no matter what you buy. Your best bet is either a 1070 or RX 480 to last you a few years before getting a replacement at the same level.
 
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Thanks Jerdle. As things stand, it takes a while for hardware to trickle down here, and even longer for prices to drop. 2 weeks for the RX480 there will mean like 6-8 weeks to get the first cards here.So GTX1070 is what looks like the best choice, which I hope the non-FE cards start becoming available by then.