FX 9590, Liquid Cooler & Raidmax Agusta case

[ShadowRaidTech]

My current system
-Windows 7 Pro x64 on a 500GB SSD
-x5 HDD totaling 6TB together
Case: Raidmax Agusta
MB: ASUS Sabertooth 990fx R2.0
GPU: 2GB GTX 760
RAM: 16GB DDR3
CPU: 3.5GHz AMD FX 6300 w/ Cooler Master GeminII S524
PSU: 750W

First off, I want to state: I AM NOT AN OVERCLOCKER. I WILL NEVER OVERCLOCK MY PARTS.

Anyway, I want to upgrade my current AMD system as much as I possibly can without buying a new motherboard. I intend to upgrade to 32GB of DDR3 RAM (I am not concerned about the MHz speed at all regarding memory) & a GTX 980 ti.

The CPU that looks best to me is the FX 9590. It's stock speed is very catching to me plus it's compatible with my motherboard. I understand it's a power hungry thing and I will upgrade my PSU to 1000+W alongside it.

My concern is cooling. I know this thing requires liquid cooling, no ifs, ands or buts. But I'm unsure of my options. I haven't done water cooling and I'm finding conflicting results for both coolers good enough for 9590 as well as coolers that will fit my case.

I was wondering if a 120mm radiator would do?; I know I could mount it at the back of case on the outside, with a fan inside the case blowing air over the radiator & out of the case and one outside on the other side of the radiator, blowing away from the case (push/pull I believe is the term). If that would work, what 120mm sized liquid cooler would be best to keep the 9590 cool? (I render videos alot, however, my 6300 only reaches 80% usage & 31C temps when I set my program to use both CPU & GPU for rendering)

If one that size is out of the question, I'd probably need a new case- which is fine as I was intending to move this build to a new case anyway once Windows 7 support ends in 2020 and make it an offline system because 10 has absolutely not worked at all with my editing programs and I despise Microsoft's shady practices regarding that OS.

If it comes to that (new case), what case would fit a large radiator as well as my motherboard, a GTX 980 ti, a 5.25" Bluray Drive 5 3.5" HDDs and one 2.5" SSD?
And what liquid cooler would be the best for the 9590 at stock & full load?

Money's not too much of an issue, but I would like to keep it under $200 for a liquid cooler and $150 for a case if possible. Again, not too big of an issue, just a preference.

On a final note, noise is not an issue as I'm a heavy headphone user.

 

[Memhorder]

I've got a 780 and a FX-9370 paired together with an RM 750 PSU and it doesn't even use close to 750 W. I've measured the Watts the PC pulls out of the wall for a Uninterrupted Power Supply so that my computer will run off battery if the power goes out. Whole system including monitor, router is just over 300-330W full load gaming. The 780 is a 250W card. So quit saying it's a 220W chip. I used a Watt Meter

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I've got a 780 and a FX-9370 paired together with an RM 750 PSU and it doesn't even use close to 750 W. I've measured the Watts the PC pulls out of the wall for a Uninterrupted Power Supply so that my computer will run off battery if the power goes out. Whole system including monitor, router is just over 300-330W full load gaming. The 780 is a 250W card. So quit saying it's a 220W chip. I used a Watt Meter

Gaming is not stress testing. Chips are rated at worst conditions. They do draw that much. You can check all the websites that have done reviews.

 

[Memhorder]

"There's no way that's accurate, which is evidenced by the fact that your min temp is 12 C. Unless you're using some kind of exotic cooling, that's almost certainly incorrect. Most CPU reviewers use watt meters or other dedicated equipment to measure power, and I'm inclined to think there's a reason."

AMD CPU's aren't accurate at idle temps. Full load temps are.

 

[Memhorder]

I've got a 780 and a FX-9370 paired together with an RM 750 PSU and it doesn't even use close to 750 W. I've measured the Watts the PC pulls out of the wall for a Uninterrupted Power Supply so that my computer will run off battery if the power goes out. Whole system including monitor, router is just over 300-330W full load gaming. The 780 is a 250W card. So quit saying it's a 220W chip. I used a Watt Meter

Gaming is not stress testing. Chips are rated at worst conditions. They do draw that much. You can check all the websites that have done reviews.

Like?

 

[TJ Hooker]

I've got a 780 and a FX-9370 paired together with an RM 750 PSU and it doesn't even use close to 750 W. I've measured the Watts the PC pulls out of the wall for a Uninterrupted Power Supply so that my computer will run off battery if the power goes out. Whole system including monitor, router is just over 300-330W full load gaming. The 780 is a 250W card. So quit saying it's a 220W chip. I used a Watt Meter

Gaming is not stress testing. Chips are rated at worst conditions. They do draw that much. You can check all the websites that have done reviews.

Like?

There's the site you linked to in your previous post for starters. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-9590-9370_7.html#sect0

Here's a couple more: http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/zardon/amd-fx9590-5ghz-review-w-gigabyte-990fxa-ud5/25/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8316/amds-5-ghz-turbo-cpu-in-retail-the-fx9590-and-asrock-990fx-extreme9-review/5

All of them show the system drawing 300+ watts on a CPU-only load.

 

[TJ Hooker]

"There's no way that's accurate, which is evidenced by the fact that your min temp is 12 C. Unless you're using some kind of exotic cooling, that's almost certainly incorrect. Most CPU reviewers use watt meters or other dedicated equipment to measure power, and I'm inclined to think there's a reason."

AMD CPU's aren't accurate at idle temps. Full load temps are.

OK, fair enough. That being said, the idea that your 9730 at 100% load is only using 55-78 W max is just not possible.

 

[Memhorder]

OK so then My battery software must be lying too if it shows this.......
This was just done using OCCT and showing the Draw from my entire system including Monitor. Everything plugged into Battery.

 

[Memhorder]

That why i don't believe everything on the internet. Here's a better shot just now. Shows CPU

 

[TJ Hooker]

That still seems to indicate that the readings in HWMonitor were way off, unless you think your mobo, RAM, and storage are drawing ~200 W. As far as the difference between you power consumption and the power measured by reviewers, it's hard to say. Part of it would probably be that those reviews are of the 9590, while you have a a 9370. It has lower clocks, and therefore you'd expect it to have lower power consumption.

I hadn't realized that 9370 also has a TDP of 220 W. Now that I think of it, there are a number of cases where CPUs in the same lineup have the same TDP even though they have different clocks, and therefore presumably at least slightly different power consumption (e.g. all i5-6xxx have the same TDP, except k version). I guess they maybe just look at the worst/highest TDP of the group and use it for all similar CPUs, rather than have to specify a unique TDP for each SKU? I'll admit that you definitely have a point about TDP not always reflecting actual power usage. Although, for the case of the 9590, I think there's enough evidence to suggest that it at least comes pretty close.

 

[Memhorder]

I was merely making a point that OP will be absolutely fine with a 750W Power Supply. Especially since GPU's are getting more efficient if that was to be upgraded. I can't see 300Mhz making a huge difference in Draw. 220W TDP to me means that I can torture it more with out it failing heat wise. When i upgrade which will be soonish this CPU will have some very exotic cooling and be put to it's limits.

 

[TJ Hooker]

OK, that makes sense. Yeah, when you consider that most the highest system power consumption found by reviewers is ~350 W for a CPU load, even if you add in a 250 W graphics card, you're still only at ~600 W. It does seem like a good quality 750 W PSU would cut it.

Also, wow, I feel a little guilty about my part in de-railing this thread. Sorry OP.

 

[ShadowRaidTech]

OK, that makes sense. Yeah, when you consider that most the highest system power consumption found by reviewers is ~350 W for a CPU load, even if you add in a 250 W graphics card, you're still only at ~600 W. It does seem like a good quality 750 W PSU would cut it.

Also, wow, I feel a little guilty about my part in de-railing this thread. Sorry OP.

No need to apologize, I do enjoy varying opinions & banter. Can be educational sometimes. 😉

 

[Memhorder]

I'm sorry. It seems that the loads i posted are actually wrong and that software does lie. I did a little more testing and it seems the loads don't change when I stressed the CPU. I'm not sure if that is average or what but it's wrong. The minutes change not the draw. When i looked at the display during stress test the actual draw is 380 VA which includes the PC, monitor, Modem, Router. So yeah sorry for the mislead and here I thought i uncovered some kind of conspiracy

Still a 750W power supply would be plenty even with a 980ti. A 240mm RAD would be best but i think they sell those CPU's with factory 120mm RAD. As for the case. I'm not gonna say a 240mm rad will fit but it looks like it will.