[SOLVED] Fx8320 + R9 280 3GB

[gsp3rm]

Hi, I have PC with spec as mentioned below, can I top the PC if I build new 1 with budget of $750?

CPU : AMD FX8320 8Core Black Edition
RAM : KINGSTON Hyper-X Fury 8GB RED
GPU : SAPPHIRE AMD RADEON R9 280 3GB DDR5 Dual-X with Boost
SSD : 120GB KINGSTON
HDD : 1TB Western Digital
PSU : CoolerMaster ThunderM 620W Semi Modular
CPU Fan : CoolerMaster Hyper 212X
Motherboard : ASUS M5A97R2.0

 

[anotherdrew]

Depends on how many of the parts you want to reuse and local pricing.
i5 8400 +MB + memory ... $400 (very round numbers)
gtx 1060 ... $250
$100 left over for cooler and ??

You could also go with a Ryzen and save a bit with similar performance.

 

[King_V]

Assuming you're using a 1920x1080 @ 60Hz monitor, and re-using your PSU, case, SSD and HDD:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($172.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.89 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Sniper X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS Black Edition OC+ Video Card ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $592.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-29 11:14 EST-0500


I should note that I didn't spend a lot of time trying to minimize the prices, but did stay at the lower end. RX 580 with 8GB is a better bang for the buck than the GTX 1060 6GB.

You might also consider using a larger SSD as your primary/OS drive - there have been a lot of good deals popping up recently.

 

[anotherdrew]

Meh ... the 580 uses twice as much power as the 1060 for performance that is a bit more and a bit less (depending on the game). The cost is within $25. To say it is clearly better is a stretch. I would say it depends on what you are going to do with it.

 

[King_V]

How does 185W get calculated as twice as much power as 120W?

The RX 580 is a (slightly) better performer overall, and, as I mentioned, specifically a better bang for the buck.

Even moreso if OP's monitor has FreeSync, or if they ever upgrade to monitor with adaptive sync, given the premium that's charged for Gsync monitors.

I think it'll take at least a year or so for someone to lose the money saved by going with the less expensive RX580. $30 based on the price you stated vs the card I chose, but the XFX is one of the more expensive 580s with a higher overclock. A number of the RX580 cards are at $200.

 

[anotherdrew]

Real world testing where systems with a 580 run around 350 Watts and the same system with a 1060 run around 250 Watts. If you figure the system is using 100-150 Watts, then you 580 is using 200-250 Watts (yup, more than theoretical) and the 1060 is using 100-150 Watts ... so double.

The price difference is minimal, the cards have very similar real world performance, so I contend there is no clear better card and the OP should feel free to pick the one he likes better.

 

[King_V]

Agreed for the OPs preferences, but I'm extremely skeptical of those claims, estimates of what the system's total use is less the GPU, etc.

I'd like to see such side by side numbers that isn't "some guy on YouTube" and without needing to make assumptions/estimates.

A Sapphire RX 580 Nitro+ LE, in boost mode (vs Silent mode), which takes the boost clock higher than any other RX580 that I'm aware of, will ALMOST double the power consumption versus a GTX 1060 Founders Edition (which is not overclocked), when run against Tom's Hardware's torture test.


BUT... either which way, I wouldn't call a $30-50$ increase in price "minimal"

 

[anotherdrew]

Techpowerup has the 580 between 220 and 260 (OC), with the 1060 at 120 (not total system power)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/RX_580_Mech_2/29.html
Anandtech has the 580 between 325 and 360 (OC), with the 1060 at 264 (Total system power)
https://www.anandtech.com/show/11278/amd-radeon-rx-580-rx-570-review/16
Extremetech has the 580 at 340, with the 1060 at 230 (Total system power)
https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/247852-amds-rx-580-reviewed-amd-takes-fight-gtx-1060-mixed-results

etc ...

The cheapest 580 on Newegg right now is $199 ... the cheapest 1060 is $229 ... $30 (I wouldn't buy either one, btw) on a $750 build that is less than 5% of the total price. I would call that "minimal" ... I guess we just have a different opinion on that.

 

[King_V]

Why go all over the place on different sites, as opposed to simply on this page:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-580-review,5020-6.html

This is the highest clocked RX580 there is, and it maxes out, in boost mode, on the torture test, at 237.4W

That comes close to, but not quite, doubling a STOCK clocked GTX 1060 at 122W (ergo 2x = 244). Board partners clock some models higher, and they go as high as 133 (ergo 2x = 266).

I just think it was disingenuous to take the maximum overclocked version of the RX580 and use a stock-clocked GTX 1060 as a comparison.

That said, when I last wrote, there were 7 or 8 different RX 580 8GB models available for $199.99, only ONE GTX 1060 6GB available for $229.99, and the rest were $249.99 or higher (using PC Part Picker).

I don't calculate the whole system. Buying a video card, compared to the $200 RX 580 8GB, the GTX 1060 6GB goes for a $230 model that is 15% more than an RX 580, and a $250 model would be 25% more.

Today, there's an RX 580 8GB for $180, 4 different ones for $200, and one for $205. Today, there 4 GTX 1060 cards available for $230, one for $240, and the rest $250 and up.


Really, it all boils down to this:
- OVERALL, the RX 580 8GB performs slightly better than the GTX 1060 GB, particularly with newer games as AMD typically favors DX12 and Nvidia typically favors DX11.
- *IF* a new monitor is in the future, a FreeSync monitor is significantly cheaper than a GSync monitor.
- The GTX 1060 6GB is far more power efficient.

You can get the GTX 1060 6GB, but you give up a small amount of performance, and you pay a bit more for it.

At the moment, anyway.

The holidays approach. That wll change day by day.

On the other hand, here's a convenient link for PC Part Picker that shows the cards, sorted in price order, of the various RX 580 8GB and GTX 1060 6GB cards out there.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rKgzK8/powercolor-radeon-rx-580-8gb-video-card-axrx-580-8gbd5-3dhdv2oc

 

[gsp3rm]

Thanks for the input guys..Basically I am considering 1 of both series u all mentioned. Mind that in my country, every dollar have to be multiplied by 4 due to money exchange value.

But the real question is if I want to build PC from scratch (not reusing my old parts) but utilizing the $750. Is there any set up that improve much from my current rig. I asked this because I would want to pass my current rig to my brother, yet for new PC i need to maintain tight budget.

So if the answer lets say, for new PC with this budget just improve small percentage of performance, then I might just OC my old PC because up until now it is still virgin, yet can run newer games fine (latest i installed is Taken 7).

Btw, the monitor mentioned above is consider an upgrade too, and budgeted separately.

 

[King_V]

What country are you in? I know for $750 you could put together a reasonable system based on US prices, but that may not be as easy where you are.

 

[gsp3rm]

What country are you in? I know for $750 you could put together a reasonable system based on US prices, but that may not be as easy where you are.

I am from Malaysia.

 

[anotherdrew]

Short answer ... yes, the above systems would dramatically outperform your current system, but they would cost around $750 US and it sounds like that is really 4 times too much (due to local pricing).

 

[King_V]

Hmm, I'm hoping that someone else can chime in, then. I have no idea as to where to begin to look to put something together in Malaysia. I generally rely on PCPartPicker, but they don't have a selection for your country.

 

[gsp3rm]

Thanks both for sharing green and red teams point of view. Will take them into my consideration.