If these rumors hold true, both the ATI card, which is rumored at between 4870x2 and 295, and G380 at around 295 perf levels, and also the size of them could mean a repeat once again of last release, meaning the ATI x2 variety, which Ive seen rumored as a later release, will come later with all of its power, and falls in line with a somewhat paper launch, and very limited availibility,just to get the foot in the door, which both ATI and nVidia have done in the past