The interesting thing is, with the release of core 2, Intel instantly took AMDs high end proccessors and made them mid range and the AMD mid range CPUs are now low end. The low end CPUs? Computer show bargain bin fodder. So, if you want to argue that its not a price war and that AMD mearly adjusted the prices of its CPU to proerly reflect the drop in performance class, well, I suppose thats an arguable point.
Peace
Yeah, C2D release basically re-adjusted the market and the scaling, things are in huge flux right now and will take several more months before it all settles down. No doubt people are looking at the new X2 prices and using this as a good buying opportunity.
AMD will sell a lot of processors as a result, in fact we are beginning to see the pains of the capacity constraints on dual core at 90 nm. It will be interesting to see what happens to AMD's ASPs as a result.
Jack
THAT's what i've been saying the whole time and you guys called me an idiot. I said the lower prices expose
AMD to more normal people than ever before. :?
No, what you said was:
I've been looking in some other forums from different places, and unlike here where conroe is all the craze, they couldn't care less. Its not just conroe they don't care about, its almost any high end processor. The common theme is why pay for an x6800 or FX-62 when i can get a x2 3800, 4200, or e6300 and get the same results in the game or close to it for a fifth of the price? They also acknowledge how faster cpu's help people with CAD, and stuff like that, but since most people don't do that there is no point. It seems to me that people on this forum are somewhat "misguided" for recommending such highend cpu's for gaming, or even buying them themselves. I also think that conroe, although not the case here, could benifit AMD buy lowering prices and giving more exposure of AMD to normal people. I know you will also say that the e6300 can overclock past an FX-62, but in response to that, people arn't willing to pay the higher price for that cpu, nor the very expensive motherboard required to overclock like that. They also seem to like the idea of the new EE chips from AMD, and disregard C2D's slighty higher power consumption, and performance. AMD has also respinded to this with the new x2 3600, and i think it will catch on. Anway i think this will benifit AMD because by the time we need chips like the x6800 and FX-62 to run all games on high settings, AMD will have the crown back and will maybe have all price points covered, plus additional exposure to normal consumers. I see 30% marketshare in the not too distant furture
Note, you said "expose AMD to more people than ever".
Corevetteguy, Ive gotta tell ya, thats an extremely biased comment. Very MMMish -- "....and the truth shall be known and AMD shall rule the world" kinda stuff.
Again, I havent seen a lot of people saying buy the FX or the EE. Ive seen people here saying buy E6600, E6400, X24600 or X24600. If someone wants the fastest CPU out there, its the EE, if someone wants the best bargain, for the moment, its the E6600, (and only by a narrow margin)
AMD's are still fine processors, the only people calling them junk are, well lets say they're uninformed. Dont waste time worrying about those folks. Worry about yourself and why your getting flamed.
Your getting flamed because:
1) The threads title was infamatory.
2) What gamers, where? Links??? evidence???
3) You said Conroe---you did not say "AMD & Intel high end proccessors"
4) You were being presumptive. The whole "everyone is saying..." thing.
5) The topic falls into the AMD fanboy catagory of "well uh, Conroes too fast, people dont need than much speed so theres no point to buying it"
Sorry man, just the way it comes off.
If you dont want to get flamed, you need to remember, its not about how
you think something appears, its about other peoples perspectives. When you write something, think about how other people will view it and adjust the wording so as not to inflame them. Unless you're
trying to inflame them.
Peace