A high end thing you talking about is just for proffesional work for example like doing some visual creating thing.but for gaming(if you really need to maxed the setting like crazy aa on100x and super super ultra texture)you can always buy laptop that most likely cost $1700 and more.Even lower,if you consider to buy from a brand that build a customize barebone laptop.if you really want a quiet and have a very good cooling system. There is Asus rog,that fantasticly great in cooling system,cool design.and believe me i don't even realize that quiet and cool system is a monster gaming laptop.of course asus rog price more expensive because of the cooling and design i was talking about.it's just the same if you want to have a super cooling and quiet desktop,you will need a very high quality fan that don't make a sound and super cool,and it will cost you more money. Just the same.
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A high end thing you talking about is just for proffesional work for example like doing some visual creating thing.but for gaming(if you really need to maxed the setting like crazy aa on100x and super super ultra texture)you can always buy laptop that most likely cost $1700 and more.Even lower,if you consider to buy from a brand that build a customize barebone laptop.if you really want a quiet and have a very good cooling system. There is Asus rog,that fantasticly great in cooling system,cool design.and believe me i don't even realize that quiet and cool system is a monster gaming laptop.of course asus rog price more expensive because of the cooling and design i was talking about.it's just the same if you want to have a super cooling and quiet desktop,you will need a very high quality fan that don't make a sound and super cool,and it will cost you more money. Just the same.
That's right but you should care "laptop power=desktop"
If you talking about price/performance it will be.but the maximum potential still higher on desktop.i know an sli gtx680m will beat a single gtx 680 but if its a dual gtx 680 . Laptop surely beaten. But i mean who will buy a dual monster desktop gpu just for gaming?? Even with the single gpu you would too overkill games.so still, laptop still the best choice.
And I REALLY AGGREE that locked yourself in your room to play games all the times,is a bad idea.you would be called a loner and it's boring play computer always in the same way and same play.beside you could consider the gaming laptop as a high quality graphics gaming console in a big tv with your friends .anywhere that have a big tv,or just play it on your laptop with your friend at your friends home and you could always play lan party with your laptop anywhere. Pretty cool isn'it?
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But your thread is more about gaming laptops vs gaming desktops so this ^ doesnt really apply.
my 2 cents: I tried to go the gaming-laptop-instead-of-desktop-lane and concluded that I made a grave mistake. I will never again buy a laptop for gaming. And as someone said in a post already, building and modding the desktop is half the fun as using it
not to mention the fact that when I play a game I want my keyboard to be under a certain angle compared to my left hand, and that is something which is impossible to do with a laptop.It's not that i don't believe the tomshardware chart,but there are some inaccurate things. Gts 250 diffrent than a gts 450 i ever own both and knew the difference.and the hardware spec of gtx 660 is the same with the gtx 560(but with a faster clock and something else,the both have the same quantity stream processor (384) and 2GB Gddr 5. An based on notebook check graphics ranking . Gtx 660m is very near to gtx 550 ti,with logic you now that gtx 660m is somewhere close to gtx 560
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OP, you've already highlighted your concern that Tom's GPU hierarchy has inaccurate content yet you base your claim on drop-down-and-select comparison website? I mean, I dunno, maybe show us some benches.
Anyway, you make a valid point in claiming that in terms of relative performance, not sheer power, the gaming laptop has more plus points. However, I'm inclined to disagree, because with $1100 or even less, I could build a rig that can smoke a similarly priced laptop and have a upgradability.
As for thermals, portability, and what not, that's subjective. I'm comfortable in sitting down and playing in my room, thank you.
I do think you're being hipster about this, but this discussion does bring a great subject for a future article, laptop vs. desktop GPUs. I hope TH's staff is reading this, I think it would be best if TH could do tests and benchmarks to finally refute or validate your claim. 😀
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Well, I'm Asian too.. Hipster, someone who prefers the counter-culture rather than the mainstream.
the thing is i counter the the old tradition of "desktop always beat laptop" because this year maybe there will be a technology leap. Like weak laptop you all talking about this year or maybe 2014 will become stronger than ever,then it's performance will be desktop performance.you see, i heard and explore more about the intel hasswell processor.that it's integrated gpu will be almost the same with gt 650m in gaming performance.it's a breakthrough! From just a little in hd 4000 into something double it.if this news really true.people will think "why we buy a 5.6 lbs laptop(usually with a gt 650m) gddr5),if there is an ultrabook with only intel hasswell(same performance) that weights much less?then nvidia and amd will work hard,some how this year or next ,they will produce a much stronger than the nvidia 600m series or amd 7000m series,so people still consider to buy a laptop with discreete gpu like nvidia and amd gpu or nvidia and amd will lose market.so basically i didn't being hipster i just being wise.
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arvinzd :
I think gaming laptop right now is really worthed to buy than a desktop pc. I knew this a pretty strong statement,but in my country i calculate the component Setup that will produce a certain performance the chassis and the mouse & keyboard and monitor speaker everything,OS,PSU! And i found some gaming laptop with that certain performance and it's the same price! Even lower,with all the thing bundled into 1 thing and you don't need to running around the shop to found every component right, i mean you got a very reliable warranty(laptop with certain brand example:msi),and the most important thing portable!.maybe some of you won't agree,maybe because"laptop screen is small"or"it' performance miles away than a desktop" or still it's pretty weighty".but if you really like that "big screen" why don't you just buy an 17.3 inch or 18.4 inch laptop or just plug it your 40" tv?.(notice that i knew that there is difference performance in the same type of component example:gtx 660m is different than gtx 660 desktop,but it will match gtx 560 or a gtx 650 ti,maybe just a little bit different speed(that miles ahead statement is just too much underestimate laptop,which i was too but this year is real different,with the nvidia 700m and amd 8000m series will be available),i mean who cares about that very little bit difference,with a gtx 660m you can play bf3 full hd ultra setting 30fps+(maybe just some setting lowered by just 1 level,no one will ever notice in the real gaming session).with gtx 660m(already a kepler model which is nice ) you can get a laptop with just weight 2.4 kg,that's much better than your pc tower 6kg-8kg(that's really not practical ,even if you manage somehow to bring it around,you still have to bring the speaker,monitor,mouse keyboard, that's just impossible),ooo,about battery life(still a downside,(just 2 hours hard gaming, 4 is top and you can just plug in the ac adapter but some of you will say"ooo,then we got a moving deaktop gaming!",as i mention earlier,laptop much practical than a desktop pc to get the maximum use ,some of you will find this subjective and some of you will find this a fact and.some of you will find this is ****. But i still in hold my opinion hard.remember you always can consider laptop that more poweful than gtx 660m .in store right now there are much choice of powerful gaming laptop.
People are just too biased to believe something radical even it's right.
) you can get a laptop with just weight 2.4 kg,that's much better than your pc tower 6kg-8kg(that's really not practical ,even if you manage somehow to bring it around,you still have to bring the speaker,monitor,mouse keyboard, that's just impossible),ooo,about battery life(still a downside,(just 2 hours hard gaming, 4 is top and you can just plug in the ac adapter but some of you will say"ooo,then we got a moving deaktop gaming!",as i mention earlier,laptop much practical than a desktop pc to get the maximum use ,some of you will find this subjective and some of you will find this a fact and.some of you will find this is ****. But i still in hold my opinion hard.remember you always can consider laptop that more poweful than gtx 660m .in store right now there are much choice of powerful gaming laptop.People are just too biased to believe something radical even it's right.
I don't know about you, OP, but I like my desktop.
I like to play game with my specific size monitor and accessories.
Even if I have my laptop, I would have my monitor, keyboard, speaker, mouse, and all other stuffs.
I've used 60" TV with my laptop, but it's just different than using 27" monitor.
I don't know how much games you got, but I have games that are over 4TB in total size.
I don't want to uninstall this to intstall other and so forth.
I like my SSD as an OS drive, apart from spaces I need.
I have 6 HDDs attached to my desktop... my laptop... has one slot... wow...
Gaming laptops got no more than 2 hdds...
I want my backup drive as well that constantly backup my documents, pictures, and etc.
I got over 10 USBs being connected to my current Desktop
Usage of USB increases with phone/tablet connection...
Let's see how may USB I got in my laptop.... 3...?
I don't care about crappy warranty that comes with the laptop.
I got warranty longer than laptop on each parts in my desktop, and I can fix the problems faster.
Do you crave for gaming so much that you have to play anywhere you're going to?
I love games, but I don't play BF3 for few minutes and pause and continue on later time.
I play games with my preferences, which will be available at my home whether I use desktop or laptop.
If I really want to play game while away, I still got my vita, 3ds, phone, etc...
There's just different usage of desktops...
I use my desktop as one stop solution, but I use my laptop for basic functionalities.
I wonder how many people would purchase the desktop and/or laptop solely for gaming...
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Why even bother arguing with the guy. Anyone with any common sense would know the difference between laptop and desktop performance if compared dollar for dollar. $1000 laptop is like just above low end for gaming, $1000 desktop and its more of a midrange gamer performance wise. Go buy a laptop OP.
Well,i'm sorry as i mentioned earlier some of you will find this subjective and some of you will find this a fact and.some of you will find this is **** and as i said earlier "in my country" the tax are pretty high here.and somehow i calculate the price between desktop and laptop.in a same performance . Laptop is lower. I mean tell me how much your desktop gaming system cost?
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Not necessarily Steelseries keys and mice, but you could get capable peripherals and chassis for a thousand bucks.
Amd 7970 eh? Maybe you think is good to overkill games maybe with full hd all maxed out you still got 60+ fps more? Believe me it's all just self satisfaction/lust for more max setting,maybe it will find game that require that 7970 to get stable fps with great graphics.but technology always change.
.why don't get an price/performance pc system in this year that adequate to get stable fps with good grahics,and so on every 3 years.after got that 7970 and if you see the 8970 with new technology refinement and become really worth upgrade from the 7970?you would upgrade? After you spent an expensive gpu that overkill.you would buy another expensive gpu. That'a just one the example.how about monitor?ram with ddr4? Or you would upgrade ssd to nand next year? And laptop this yearnis adequate even maybe some offer more with same price. as i mention earlier people are biased and see only with 1 perceptive
.why don't get an price/performance pc system in this year that adequate to get stable fps with good grahics,and so on every 3 years.after got that 7970 and if you see the 8970 with new technology refinement and become really worth upgrade from the 7970?you would upgrade? After you spent an expensive gpu that overkill.you would buy another expensive gpu. That'a just one the example.how about monitor?ram with ddr4? Or you would upgrade ssd to nand next year? And laptop this yearnis adequate even maybe some offer more with same price. as i mention earlier people are biased and see only with 1 perceptive
That's a good response with good reason.since 1 laptop is practicaly much easier to handle than 1 desktop(cable2,speaker,keyboard & mouse) and 1 weak cheap($250)laptop(as i'm sure i'ts still pretty heavy like 2.5 kg even with bad spec) i really consider 1 strong laptop beside it's not "green" for the earth to have many electronical devices.energy saving.electrical fees
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